Dong currently plays in the Chinese second division.
Manucho watch
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We saw some talent that was obviously well hidden.Dong , Manucho, Bebe ,
Seriously what were we thinking?
Our "bargain scout" needs to be sacked big time. You know, these players that we spend relatively small amounts on, only to turn out to be serious duds...
Djemba, Obertan, Diouf, Manucho, Dong, Bebe...Ok, maybe i'm a little harsh on Obertan given he's the most successful out of that lot. That's a long list of terrible players there. No doubt, when you sign players with potential there are bound to be some duds, but when Dong has to play in the second division something is seriously wrong, especially since it wasn't like he was injury prone or anything.
Surely, if a player doesn't make it with us you'd expect them to be at least championship, SPL or even league one standard...not the chinese 2nd division
Djemba, Obertan, Diouf, Manucho, Dong, Bebe...Ok, maybe i'm a little harsh on Obertan given he's the most successful out of that lot. That's a long list of terrible players there. No doubt, when you sign players with potential there are bound to be some duds, but when Dong has to play in the second division something is seriously wrong, especially since it wasn't like he was injury prone or anything.
Surely, if a player doesn't make it with us you'd expect them to be at least championship, SPL or even league one standard...not the chinese 2nd division
mate, he was to weak to cut it at Legia Warsaw. Legia fecking Warsaw - aye a top club in the shite, sorry uber shite league.Dong currently plays in the Chinese second division.
Think Milan win this season with Nocerino for 500k
Bebe was charity, he was homelessDong , Manucho, Bebe ,
Seriously what were we thinking.
Dong was £0.5m and Manucho was free I believe. Bebe is the only one that can really elicit a "What the feck was all that about?" response.Dong , Manucho, Bebe ,
Seriously what were we thinking.
Did you really buy Bebe for 8 million? I'll admit I actually felt sorry for him last time I sae him play. May have been against Wolves, can't remember now. He was painfully bad and a level below the other players on the pitch.
Whatever was happening, we certainly weren't bunging money at Jorge Mendes for reasons as yet unknown. Oh no.
I still think Bebe can come good. The last time I was hearing about, I heard someone mentioning something about cyborg-legs though..
Don't call it a comeback.
Fergie sign him up...............oh wait!
Manucho scores twice as Angola advance to next year's African Cup of Nations final.
Still a demon in the air
That commentary is just amazing.
Manucho seems an absolute beast in the air.
Manucho seems an absolute beast in the air.
I will always remember him as the guy who assisted Welbeck's debut stunner against Stoke.
Falcao-esque.
His international career with the angolan national team is impressive, 38 caps and 21 goals 
De Gea
Valencia - Vidić - Carrick - Rafael
Cleverley - Rooney
Bébé - Kagawa - van Persie
Manucho
Valencia - Vidić - Carrick - Rafael
Cleverley - Rooney
Bébé - Kagawa - van Persie
Manucho
What about Dong?De Gea
Valencia - Vidić - Carrick - Rafael
Cleverley - Rooney
Bébé - Kagawa - van Persie
Manucho
Or maybe not!
He isn't even first choice at the second division chinese club.
Man Utd-Šooooooooooo!!!
On a hattrick against Madrid now.
Eh? It's only a brace?
Thats what on a hattrick means
Oh, I thought it was 'on to' a hatrick. My bad.
See, Fergie knows talent. It's only you impatient Cafe posters who force him to sell so soon..
On a serious note: we buy lots of crap but not sure we ever lose money on them. They are sold for profit with the United tag branded on their arse. Many have extended careers thanks to that. Here's to you McShane.
On a serious note: we buy lots of crap but not sure we ever lose money on them. They are sold for profit with the United tag branded on their arse. Many have extended careers thanks to that. Here's to you McShane.
They don't stay here for free. In fact they get money for being here.
Money has been lost (Djemba-Djemab). It has also been profitable in some cases (Tosic).
Money has been lost (Djemba-Djemab). It has also been profitable in some cases (Tosic).
No one gets it right all the time, it's laughable that some people still talk about Djemba-Djembas and Bebe's as if they were a regular occurrence.
Even here at Porto, where everyone praises our eyes for talent, we buy a lot of dross, some of them pretty expensive, it's just that they never make international headlines, obviously.
Even here at Porto, where everyone praises our eyes for talent, we buy a lot of dross, some of them pretty expensive, it's just that they never make international headlines, obviously.
I don't find Djemba-Djemba laughable at all. Don't think he would have been remembered much had he been bought in '97 and/or didn't have that "odd" name.
But this is a United forum. People who frequent it have a certain attention and memory and dedication towards the club and are generally more knowledgeable about football so I'm sure if you name any player bought in the last 15 years, the majority will remember said player.
But this is a United forum. People who frequent it have a certain attention and memory and dedication towards the club and are generally more knowledgeable about football so I'm sure if you name any player bought in the last 15 years, the majority will remember said player.
And that those who make the headlines are god damn expensive most of the time.
I still wonder what the mystery is and how you manage to get 30+ mio. € for so many of your players.
Nah, it was just a rant at people who complain about transfers that didn't work out (I do think the Bebe case was daft, but other than that...). That said, I don't see much complaining here specifically, so I don't know why I said it. Just tired and ranting randomly.
Will try to hold on for another hour or so, so I can go to sleep and wake up exactly 15 minutes before the game. Love watching football with the morning coffee and cigarette.
Will try to hold on for another hour or so, so I can go to sleep and wake up exactly 15 minutes before the game. Love watching football with the morning coffee and cigarette.
We have a sublime scouting network, and easy market access to South America. Also a lot of players see us a rewarding stepping stone so we can attract talent that wouldn't otherwise want to play in the Portuguese league.
I think we've become a bit like a brand when it comes to selling. The coming of the sugar daddies also inflated the market quite a bit and started that trend. Most of our huge sales began with Abramovich, I don't remember any €20m+ before we won the Champions League. €30m for Carvalho, €20m for Paulo Ferreira... I think Carvalho was worth it, Ferreira not so much, he was decent but nothing spectacular. I think Deco went for lower than that to Barcelona and he was world class at the time. Then it just became common occurrence. Russian clubs pay insane money, I don't know if they do money laundering or whatever...
Barring some exceptions I think most of our players leave for well above their real value. Good for us. Falcão was one of these exceptions, he's truly a World Class player and I think was worth every penny of the €40m.
No doubt it will end someday, possibly with the advent of Fair Play. I hope the club can adapt well and timely to the new reality.
But in regards to the "brand" kind of thing... I was just in Liverpool forum watching Jackson's Martinez thread. Most of them had no idea who he was when we (and Liverpool) were first linked with him, but they all wanted him because "if Porto wants him he'll be worth 5 times that in 2 years" and "I only want him because Porto wants him". It was funny to see their despair a few pages later when someone posted the goals he's been scoring for us