Lee565
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Current bench warmer but so was alderweireld for Atletico before being loaned to Southampton and look how he turned out.
Your talking nonsense tbh and moaning for moaning sake. The Sir Alex and David Gill you speak of has done the same thing, Henrik Larsson and Carlos Tevez were brought in on loan for a start. It’s a part of football.The planning, recruitment at United has been so bad since Sir Alex, and Gill left we are here trying to justify loan deals and purchases of other teams flops. This at one of the best supported and richest clubs in the world. We should be choosing the best talent in the world and those talents should be drooling to play for this club. Sad really what has become of our club.
Where have I said loan deals are not an option for a club?Your talking nonsense tbh and moaning for moaning sake. The Sir Alex and David Gill you speak of has done the same thing, Henrik Larsson and Carlos Tevez were brought in on loan for a start. It’s a part of football.
It's funny because it's true.He has legs...good signing.
Well of course, you didn’t say ‘loan deals are not an option for us’, you simply said that it is a reflection of the club that we are now trying to justify loan deals. Given our injury situation and the fact that top players are rarely available in January, a loan deal makes sense now.Where have I said loan deals are not an option for a club?
Anyway, you're not seriously comparing Larsson and Tevez loans with Llorente who can hardly get a game at both Madrid clubs? Besides, Tevez would have been purchased outright had there not been an issue with his ownership.
Different type of player. Not sure where the comparison came from.This would be our Denis Suarez.
Llorente will struggle here. He hasn't kicked on at all.
Surprised A. Madrid brought him.
Because it would be a similar situation, despite, as you pointed out, them obviously being different human beings!Different type of player. Not sure where the comparison came from.
‘What about Chicharito, Bebe, Obertan, the finish Owen and even Valencia from Wigan. Not exactly the best talent, it’s always like this ever since we sold Ronaldo.Where have I said loan deals are not an option for a club?
Anyway, you're not seriously comparing Larsson and Tevez loans with Llorente who can hardly get a game at both Madrid clubs? Besides, Tevez would have been purchased outright had there not been an issue with his ownership.
Could use Kovacic as it would also be a similar situation.Because it would be a similar situation, despite, as you pointed out, them obviously being different human beings!
Nobody knows how it would turn out but its pretty obvious what they are trying to say.Could use Kovacic as it would also be a similar situation.
Ronaldo was bought from Lisbon, Tevez from West Ham and Rooney from some team called Everton! Good players can come from any club in the world!‘What about Chicharito, Bebe, Obertan, the finish Owen and even Valencia from Wigan. Not exactly the best talent, it’s always like this ever since we sold Ronaldo.
What are you arguing with my statement?Ronaldo was bought from Lisbon, Tevez from West Ham and Rooney from some team called Everton! Good players can come from any club in the world!
The comparison on Suarez is lazy. It's pretty much the same thing with Kovacic, hardly play and left Real on loan, players can't get a game so they decide to leave on loan with potential for permanent signing, if they do well then the clause is activated. I don't know why "January" and being Spanish are matter for it.Nobody knows how it would turn out but its pretty obvious what they are trying to say.
They obviously mean, they feel it would be a pointless loan, he would probably come in now (January), hardly play and then leave in June, just like Denis Suarez did at Arsenal last year.
The fact that they are both Spanish midfielders and would be being loaned in from a big Spanish club makes it an even more obvious comparison.
How is a Croatian midfielder that Chelsea got in a summer move and then ended up buying permanently a similar/better example?
Because they are two more things that the Llorente and Suarez transfers would have in common when compared to your supposedly similar example, Kovavic.The comparison on Suarez is lazy. It's pretty much the same thing with Kovacic, hardly play and left Real on loan, players can't get a game so they decide to leave on loan with potential for permanent signing, if they do well then the clause is activated. I don't know why "January" and being Spanish are matter for it.
Again why does it matter being Spanish and move in January? Can you answer this?Because they are two more things that the Llorente and Suarez transfers would have in common when compared to your supposedly similar example, Kovavic.
My point being, it was a perfectly logical comparison, you're the one who took a random issue with it and then threw out an example that has less similarities.
Again why does it matter being Spanish and move in January? Can you answer this?
Because those two factors don't make Suarez failed in Arsenal. You can be Italian, and still have chance to fail. You can be another Spanish and still have chance to success in loan deal. You can go in January or Summer and still have chance to either success or fail.
Two players with different style of play, Suarez's style just doesn't suit with Arsenal & EPL, doesn't mean Llorente's style won't work on EPL.
What? You answered nothing. No logic behind it how did Denis Suarez struggle in EPL just because he's being Spanish and being transferred as January on loan? Answer this?Please tell me you're joking, I literally just answered your question in my previous post.
Look, you obviously don't understand the point the original poster (Frank Drebin) was trying to make or what I'm trying to say either, so just forget about it.
Word of advice, you might want to check your own grammar before you start taking the intellectual high ground.What? You answered nothing. No logic behind it how did Denis Suarez struggle in EPL just because he's being Spanish and being transferred as January on loan? Answer this?
It doesn't matter whether he's Spanish or no or whether he's going on loan in January. What matter is that his playing style doesn't suit EPL & Arsenal.
Llorente played different style to Denis, there is no logic to say he will struggle just like Denis. Two players play different role & style. Such a lazy and non logic comparison to made just because both players are Spanish and midfielder. I obviously don't understand people who don't speak logic.
We'd concede 50 goals a season with that midfield. Baffles me how little people on here seem to grasp what a midfield actually does.Pogba-------Bruno
--------Llorente-----
or Maddison/Grealish once Pogba goes.
My grammar doesn't matter. If you are going to reply I expect you to answer my question, don't talk about something that is not related to the thread.Word of advice, you might want to check your own grammar before you start taking the intellectual high ground.
From what I've heard and the little I've seen he's aggressive and loves a tackle.I plead ignorance on this lad, never seen him play, honestly never even heard of him. One question to those that have seen him, is he physical. If he is, that might be one reason he may be being considered. Apart from McTom we lack bite in central mid particularly in defensive third. To me McTom is more use higher up the pitch with his driving runs. Fred has got better but he's not physical or strong enough in the tackle. If/when we bring in Fernandes, we will need that defensive cover and bite to protect backline. Could be a useful option to close out season.
They're at opposite ends of the Spanish midfielder spectrum for sure. Suarez is a subpar athlete but clever AM (not a good fit for the Prem generally) and Llorente is a DM without those limitations who might not set the world on fire but should be a solid contributor.What? You answered nothing. No logic behind it how did Denis Suarez struggle in EPL just because he's being Spanish and being transferred as January on loan? Answer this?
It doesn't matter whether he's Spanish or no or whether he's going on loan in January. What matter is that his playing style doesn't suit EPL & Arsenal.
Llorente played different style to Denis, there is no logic to say he will struggle just like Denis. Two players play different role & style. Such a lazy and non logic comparison to made just because both players are Spanish and midfielder. I obviously don't understand people who don't speak logic.