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  1. Sep 9, 2019

    Majima Full Member

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    We spent £80m net this summer & £50m net last summer. We had record revenues of £590m last year. For a team supposed to be rebuilding, you call that a proper investment?

    Besides that, who would actively choose to develop youth inside a poor environment? It makes no sense. You don't add youth to a team already devoid of any experience or leadership. With the pressure & responsibility immediately placed upon them, that's setting them up to fail.

    You add youth to an already experienced setup so they can be free to naturally develop. It's the way all the top teams around the world do it. SAF used to do it this way. Rooney & Ronaldo were completely surrounded by leaders as youngsters. They were never laid bare like how we're attempting to do it.
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    Drainy Full Member

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    Well no, but its the budget the Glazers set
  3. Sep 9, 2019

    finneh Full Member

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    Can't disagree with any of that.
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    finneh Full Member

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    You're right, what the hell was Fergie doing having Ronaldo as our first choice winger; he should have sent him on loan to Preston for a couple of seasons.
  5. Sep 9, 2019

    Hughie77 Full Member

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    Just hope he stops shooting from long distances, and his free kicks bloody he'll!
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    Majima Full Member

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    You're not wrong with any of what you're saying, but our current strategy is really nothing to be proud of personally.

    It's done for the end goal of making them the most money at the minimum cost at the end of the day, to hell with what's best for the team.
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    Majima Full Member

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    I wish someone could explain how any of this actually makes sense from a developing the youth standpoint but i just can't see it.
  8. Sep 9, 2019

    haram Full Member

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    Well when people think all you have to do is throw young players in this is what you get.
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    Based Adnan New Member

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    finneh Full Member

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    The same applies to Greenwood with people saying he should be starting. Not realising it can be counter productive to put that much pressure on a 17 year old.

    Not everyone has the mental fortitude of Ronaldo.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    SplitzMagic New Member

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    I think the biggest issue we have is the bad bad signings and then over relying on rashford all these years.

    Rashford is a great player on his day but I can't help but feel he one of the main reasons for a lot of our woes up front. He is on stupid money now doesn't have a single player in the squad to look up to like he did with zlatan.

    Look at the team Ronaldo had when he joined. He knew his place though he knew he was the best until it was his time but with rashford he just seems too rash and now big headed. Can you believe he was once compared to Mbappe :lol:

    Basically another Rooney situation where we are playing him in the wrong position but getting new attackers means we don't know where to play him. He is best suit to lw but I feel like James will do a better job than him at all times. He can't go centre as he's not good there and can't play rw...... We can't even talk about him playing number 10 so that's where we have problems.

    We can't keep a 300k a week miss fit on the bench now can we? Therefore improving the team is difficult with Rashford in it. I guess he's one of those players you expect to become world class but in what position?
  13. Sep 10, 2019

    Yagami Full Member

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    Yeah. Knowing Southgate, he probably always intended on Rashford starting one and Sancho the other regardless of their performance to see who gels best with Kane and Sterling.
  14. Sep 10, 2019

    Bwuk Full Member

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    Sancho was always going to come in for one of the front 3. Kane and Sterling are untouchable, and I'd imagine at the moment Rashford is ahead of Sancho in the pecking order.
  15. Sep 10, 2019

    Santoryo ripping the reward

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    We've never relied let alone over relied on Rashford "all these years". We had brought in other main strikers to whom we relied on. Now whether they delivered or not isn't the point of contention right now but it's important to point out that we never relied on Rashford, the strikers brought in(Zlatan, Lukaku) were relied upon and depending on how their fared they got either criticised or praised.

    We weren't relying on Rashford all these years.
  16. Sep 10, 2019

    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    SplitzMagic New Member

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    So rashford playing 40+ games a season isn't over relying?

    The guys on 300k per week at 21... Another Rooney but no end product. Hasn't even hit 20 goals in a season so that shows how awful we have been not getting in real leaders or experience. Heck, we can't even buy midfielders although we lost a load.

    The last real ST was lukaku and before him ibra who has obviously left and was old anyways. Where are the players for him to look up to like how sterling has managed to improve playing with aguero?

    If Daniel James keeps up his form and Martial begins to smash it for us in the middle, where does rashford fit in? He can't okay number 10 not can he play RW. Only place for him is LW and currently James is better than him in that side. He can't score tap ins through the middle so it leaves us with a Rooney situation.
  18. Sep 10, 2019

    George Beast Full Member

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    Dropped by Southgate? Doesn't seem to be playing
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    Yes and rightly so. He needs a bit of a wake up call for both club and country. He shouldn't be an automatic or regular starter for either based on his current form.
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    Dare I say...….he needs his bubble bursting....

    Burst away, my dear Gareth! Burst away.
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    George Beast Full Member

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    Sancho replaced him and without the flicks and tricks is infinitely more effecient. Hard to see him making it back into this team bar an injury. Should be a massive wake up call being replaced by a younger better English player on every level
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    Get ready for one of his specials into the east stand Saturday.
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    Santoryo ripping the reward

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    What with the ridiculous hate and even more ridiculous need some have to constantly drop here and hate the guy regardless of how he performs or even if he plays at all?
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    He performed well against Bulgaria, so he was hardly dropped because of that. Southgate said he wanted to see some players.

    Felt he did well when he came on tonight. Made a few decent runs and made some nice passes.

    From an England fans point of view, it's great that we have so many good options now anyway.
  25. Sep 10, 2019

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    The usual bullshit from football fans, hype a young player to ridiculous levels only to knock them down when they don’t live up to those expectations. Those ridiculous comparisons to Mbappe didn’t help, Mbappe’s an anomaly, expecting Rashford to tear it up every week was always going to end in disappointment. It was the same nonsense when everyone turned on Martial after his first season, we forget that they’re young players who are still developing, very few players, particularly forwards are consistent at that age.
  26. Sep 11, 2019

    KennyBurner New Member

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    I agree with most of what you've said but that bolded part is absolute rubbish. Sterling has never suffered from poor decision making. Maybe you've said it to find some correlation between him and rashford where in reality there isnt one. he was brilliant at liverpool and is now brilliant at city. Guardiola helped his career in some way but he was always destined for greatness with or without guardiola. The only problem with him over the years has been his final ball or technique. Its improved and is getting him the goods but is still a bit shaky.
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    Majima Full Member

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    Why is it rubbish? Think about it. Sterling's main weakness before Guardiola was his decision-making in front of goal. I remember his final season at Liverpool very well. He was brilliant at Liverpool I agree but he was still hesitant in front of goal. You even agreed with that yourself.

    Compare both of their stats:

    Sterling's final season at Liverpool PL stats at 20;
    35 games, 7 goals, 8 assists.

    Rashford's PL stats at same age (17/18);
    35 games, 7 goals, 5 assists.

    Sterling's 1st season at City PL stats at 21;
    31 games, 6 goals, 2 assists.

    Rashford PL stats last season at 21;
    33 games, 10 goals, 7 assists.

    Sterling's 2nd season at City PL stats at 22;
    33 games, 7 goals, 10 assists.

    Sterling's PL stats with City at 23;
    33 games, 18 goals, 15 assists.

    As you can see, their records at the same age are very similar.

    To say Sterling was always destined for greatness wasn't true & is hindsight. Nothing is ever set in stone. I never thought he was capable of the records he's posting now, that's for sure. He's benefited from excellent coaching at City from Guardiola and has matured with age.

    Rashford has similar weaknesses. He is excellent at getting into a dangerous position, but once there, his decision making is letting him down. That's normal though. The biggest thing is that he keeps on getting into those positions in the first place.

    That's how it is with young players, they consistently frustrate until bang, they explode, it suddenly clicks and away they go.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Yeah. Even in CAF there are posts laughing at Sterling and calling him average player.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    While I don't disagree that we need to be patient with young players, and people go alarmingly overboard with their criticism of Rashford, in spite of what the stats do say, what they don't is also important. Sterling as a teenager (when he brok through for Liverpool) showed a level of completeness and quality that I haven't seen from Rashford yet. His quality on the ball and in the buildup was excellent in those early periods at Liverpool alongside Sturriidge and Suarez. He looked a frighteningly talented kid. Rashford, for me, has never looked that talented. Since be broke through he's appeared more effective/end product oriented than a completely natural and pure attacking talent.

    To sum up, patience is important with kids but hopefully Rashford improves in the general excellence of his play, and intelligence too.
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    Majima Full Member

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    Remember that match against Liverpool at OT that season where Sterling missed how many chances? The Sterling from then to now are like night & day in comparison.
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    Majima Full Member

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    Oh I completely agree, Sterling's general play & awareness in & around the box was excellent. He was a natural at it.

    Rashford's awareness of his teammates definitely leaves a lot to be desired at times. He gets tunnel-vision a lot. I hope he significantly brushes up on this in the future too. That's one of his biggest flaws I would say.
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    Yes, different qualities and different weaknesses. Sterling was comfortable on the ball for a short pass or a burst of speed away from a marker, but he so often was flustered when close to goal, and his shot was weak. He has increased his composure a lot the last couple of years even.

    Rashford will improve on this as well, both in regard to spotting a pass and about what kind of run to make, and what kind of finish to make (he’s already improved on this last under Solskjær).
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    Anyone could see these 2 aren't ready, anyone but our manager evidently.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Martial is 23 and will be 24 this year, if he isn't ready now then he won't be ready at all. Its high time managers trust these players with bigger responsibilities.
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    Exactly, they have been first teamers here for 4 seasons and now that evil men Lukaku, Zlatan, Sanchez, Mourinho etc. are gone the path is finally clear for the clubs golden boys and there is no more excuses for them. If they don't very quickly fulfil their potential it's going to be a long season.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Why no excuses for them? People still give excuses for players in their prime, why not for young players?
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    Because now they are going to be regular starters, the burden of scoring our goals is on them. They are young but they aren't kids anymore and they have been in an around the first team for 4 seasons now with lots of talk about others taking their place or holding them back. These people are gone and the starting spots are clear for them. They have to perform at the expected levels just like everyone else.
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    Cause if they don't perform , who else could we put the blame and responsibilities for ? All the evil men has gone , no one can be their scapegoat anymore.
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    Southgate could've killed him. Such an unfair treatment for the english lad..... Hold on a minute, They're all english!

    I take it back, Well done!
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Of course they should perform at expected levels but why no excuses? People were giving excuses for Lukaku when he was guaranteed starter and at his peak.

    If we keep unrealistic expectations then for sure they are going to fail. For example, as a 24 and 25 year old Mane scored 13 and 10 league goals for Liverpool. If Rashford scores as many goals is that good enough? He will also play most of the season in same position (as a winger).

    As a team we have to improve, we should rely on more goal scorers than just 2. Last season it was decent enough with 4 players scoring more than 10 goals, likewise we need more players but instead of 10, the number should be bigger.