mitchmouse
loves to hate United.
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maybe he needs a fresh start...Would he survive outside of Manchester if he was to go to PSG, I think he'd just lose all heart if it happened.
maybe he needs a fresh start...Would he survive outside of Manchester if he was to go to PSG, I think he'd just lose all heart if it happened.
You think he'd lose heart getting treated like royalty by the Qataris and being a wealthy young millionaire in fecking Paris??Would he survive outside of Manchester if he was to go to PSG, I think he'd just lose all heart if it happened.
You can be given all the glory on the planet and still get fecking home sick.You think he'd lose heart getting treated like royalty by the Qataris and being a wealthy young millionaire in fecking Paris??
With Alli though, maybe just me, but I always wondered what he was so great at. Never really liked him. Physically he didn't have any good attributes. Technically he was always average in pretty much every department. He was playing well as a second striker, in a Muller type role where he was just making good decisions and showing good movement which goes a hell of a long way. Just fell off the earth though. Rashford has always had far more talent and raw attributes with his pace and strength and agility, where the right system and just get his desire/happiness back and he'll be fine.I hope so and I like Rashford and am willing to give him a chance, but it's such a rare opportunity to sell an underperforming player for big money. This would make him the third biggest sale in the history of the club. Also Alli was arguably better than Rashford before his fall, he was twice Young Player of the Year, England starter and key player.
Yep, 4 leagues goals is well below his average of 8 league goals a season, over 7 seasons in the first team.am I right that he got just four league goals last season? sorry, but that's nowhere near good enough. that's not a "dip" in form... it's bloody horrendous
Transfermarkt value him at 60M. But for declining players on huge wages from overpaying big club, the transfermarkt value is always too highDoes someone really believes that Rashford is worth a 100M player?
Agree. At least a few people talk sense.After one bad season in a completely dysfunctional side under Ole (where he may have played through injury), people here want to dump him when we have no depth up front and with no indication the club has any clue in how to replace him. In the previous season (20-21), even with a run of bad form late in the year, he managed 19 goals, 9 assists in 43 starts between the EPL, ECL and EL.
Looked good in preseason and it would be criminal not to at least give him a chance in ETH's system. If his drop in form continues, we sell next summer when we have the entire window to find a replacement.
Loyalty is only wanted when a player has performed. When they’re not performing fans want them gone.Yeap. It's embarrassing. Zero sense of loyalty especially to one of our own. Worst set of 'supporters' in the League.
Performance obviously plays a part in sport, however, ask yourself this...what does the player want, what are they seeking?Loyalty is only wanted when a player has performed. When they’re not performing fans want them gone.
Out of every comment back, I will respond to yours as it's the most reasoned, well balanced and genuine response.Others have piled on your post here, I don't mean to add to that but wanted to respond seeing as you replied to me.
I am purely ralking about on pitch attitude, I don't care for rumours and I definitely pay no attention to the press. When things aren't going His way on the pitch, he becomes sullen, insular, his head drops, he starts trying to force things on the ball and he's not good enough to do that which makes it spiral.
I get your point re a lack of confidence, but I think it's more than that.
I think the attitude issue goes right through the academy as I said - add to Rashford the likes of Pogba, Lingard, Greenwood, go back as far as Ravel if you want. We are bringing young lads through who think they've already made it, and lack the mentality to make the most of their ability. In my view, while it's easy to blame individual players, it's getting to the stage where it seems like the club is failing these young men somehow.
If I was a coach I’d force Marcus to play in midfield during training for a while. It’d force him to use his brain in football . As of now he’s useless in a dominant team and has only ever excelled in counter attacking situations.am I right that he got just four league goals last season? sorry, but that's nowhere near good enough. that's not a "dip" in form... it's bloody horrendous
You're a bit late to the party, it was reported in several outlets that PSG is very unlikely to go through with this transfer.Best piece of the transfer news ive heard so far this window. We'd be massive mugs if we don't sell him, this is the closest thing to daylight robbery!
Absolutely spot on, I couldnt have worded better myself. I do however want to question where this lack of awarness comes from... Perhaps his commercial value is really that high, but that begs the question to why...This appears to be a contract negotiating tactic that has gone horribly wrong. Rashford's people put out that he might go to PSG, expected the fans to rally and the club to offer a new contract. The result, every poll I have seen has over 80% support for getting rid of Rashford. Now a player short of confidence is well aware that almost the whole fanbase would like to see him leave, and it's put United in a position where they have to offer a contract to a player that isn't performing and the fans don't want.
I don't see Rashford getting better after this stunt, I think it's going to get worse.
Soon We will have no superstars left, Pogba left for free and Ronaldo wants to leave. The club want him to be the star, but he isn't that good on the pitch. He is PR gold off itAbsolutely spot on, I couldnt have worded better myself. I do however want to question where this lack of awarness comes from... Perhaps his commercial value is really that high, but that begs the question to why...
Why is Rashfords commercial value so high? It surely aint nothing to do with performance. Is it close to Ronaldo or Rooney in comparison decades ago? Ofcourse its not fair to compare United during golden days when it comes to revenue, but whos to blame for that? There is a reason why its called the golden days and thats mainly because of players like Rooney.
Where Im getting at is I really want to dissect Rashford's "commercial value" because I fear the value is inflated and mainly based on Uniteds historic backround. I dont think Rashford value comes from the field at all. I doubt the value is even that high.
Not really a predicament tbh, the wages he'd comment won't ever match the best football he's ever played at United. Selling him is a very easy decision except for the timing of it. Renewing him would be a terrible mistakeA predicament. On the one hand, Rashford has been very poor for two seasons but one could argue exigent circumstances — mateurush management by Ole and playing under injury. But Ole was nowhere near to be found last weekend at Old Trafford, Rashford was as fit as an American Ninja yet his performance extremely poor. We could cash in now and bring in a player ETH can work with, such as Antony. On the other hand, if we’re going to keep Rashford he’s going to demand a massive wage. And he might deliver. Or he might not.
We are all quite aware that the club WANTS Rashford to be the superstar but in reality thats far from the truth what people really want. Pogba is a superstar like him or not, Rashford doesnt have that X factor, its rather being forced upon us.Soon We will have no superstars left, Pogba left for free and Ronaldo wants to leave. The club want him to be the star, but he isn't that good on the pitch. He is PR gold off it
There’s no guarantees it would be a mistake but there’s a good chance it could be. I agree with your post, we can’t have a player here that commands a big multi year contract just because he’s ‘one of our own’.Not really a predicament tbh, the wages he'd comment won't ever match the best football he's ever played at United. Selling him is a very easy decision except for the timing of it. Renewing him would be a terrible mistake
I’m not ready to accept the conclusion that Rashford is washed up as a footballer. Maybe he, but I’m just not there yet.Not really a predicament tbh, the wages he'd comment won't ever match the best football he's ever played at United. Selling him is a very easy decision except for the timing of it. Renewing him would be a terrible mistake
No guarantees of course. We're all playing a guessing game. When I look at his ability and how he plays, I don't see a massive room of improvement in terms of decision making.There’s no guarantees it would be a mistake but there’s a good chance it could be. I agree with your post, we can’t have a player here that commands a big multi year contract just because he’s ‘one of our own’.
Imagine, he signs a 5 year, high wage contract and carries on performing at the level we’ve seen for the last 2 seasons. We’re then stuck in the same situation we’ve been in countless times with underperforming stars on big salaries. IMO it’s just not worth the gamble, if there is a genuine offer … take it.
I sincerely hope you never get there thanks to his performances at UtdI’m not ready to accept the conclusion that Rashford is washed up as a footballer. Maybe he, but I’m just not there yet.
Agreed 100%.No guarantees of course. We're all playing a guessing game. When I look at his ability and how he plays, I don't see a massive room of improvement in terms of decision making.
I could be wrong and would be happily quoted in the future. Even in his most productive periods at the club, Rashford was still a very frustrating player who would often run into blind alleys
For me Sancho is the reason I’m not giving up on Rashford.I’m not ready to accept the conclusion that Rashford is washed up as a footballer. Maybe he, but I’m just not there yet.