This is a crazy take. He’s not fulfilled his promise but at times he’s been our best player which can’t be said for any other striker bar Ibrahimovic!
Martial exit?
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Why?
Yes.
Yeah, it is crazy to be blessed with feet made of memory foam and velvet and still not produce more good stuff on the pitch, for sure a disappointment.
Still have his first goal engraved in my mind however, will always be thankful for that absolute gem.
Martial won't leave United in any of our lifetimes lads.
No, Yes, Yes, Sanchez, Sancho, Di Maria
Breadcrumbs FCMartial FC still dining out on an assist in a friendly 6 years ago.
Is this a serious question? He produced high level skill weekly in his first season, and several times since then.
Just one example: https://youtube.com/shorts/f4LPu-1SbGQ?si=H8L2aaa6suew_PSJ
And then the very next week, if I remember correctly, he picked up the ball from the halfway line away at Brugges and ran through to score.
The man has lost his way since he did his cruciate about 3 years ago. But the re-writing of history I'm seeing is a bit ridiculous. Even just a few days after his infamous debut goal, he went to St.Mary's, sat Van Dijk down on his arse, and scored. If he left here 3 years ago, he'd be undoubtedly our best forward signing since Fergie. Talking of him as our 'worst', which I'm seeing in here, is laughable.
Martial is by no means our worst striker in recent times. The main issue is that he’s been quite bad for a prolonged period of time now. Most of the others only lasted a season or two before being moved on. Doesn’t help in the fans eyes that he’s on a massive wage as well.
He had the technical and physical abilities to be a top level striker but not the mental attributes. No hunger or fire. Now he’s lost those physical gifts as well after long standing injuries issues. Should have cut our losses when Mourinho wanted rid of him but he’s not comparable to Weghorst.
He had the technical and physical abilities to be a top level striker but not the mental attributes. No hunger or fire. Now he’s lost those physical gifts as well after long standing injuries issues. Should have cut our losses when Mourinho wanted rid of him but he’s not comparable to Weghorst.
Are you alright, mate? I’m thoroughly concerned you had a stroke while typing this
I for one am truly disappointed this guy doesn't have CR's fitness. He would have been a sight to behold.
CR has a brain also though.
Sure but Zlatan added more than just goals. Zlatan just 'had it' and made others better too. Pogba was really good when Zlatan was the striker. Zlatan had some very important goals in the Europa League before he picked up that major injury that ended his Manchester United career. Lukaku was more of a 'flat track bully' and scoring his goals against weaker opponents. I dont really remember any defining Manchester United Lukaku moments. I mostly remember his bad first touch. Ronaldo was good in his return season. Won some games by himself (Spurs game for example) but his arrival didnt improve the team while Zlatan his arrival did.
Cut our losses when Mourinho wanted to get rid of him? Martial had his best seasons after Mourinho. There were no indications at that time that Martial would have become semi perma injured at that point. Had Martial been able to stay fit (or had Ole not played him while injured) and Martial would have kept improving, something he did until the injuries struck, then Martial might have been the starting striker for France now.
Do you read to understand or you just spew out your 1st thought. Clearly my post was addressing those attacking him for being injured. Tye likes of Jones,Bailly ,Martial didn't choose for their bodies to let them down.
Just the fitness of a regualr player would have done it.
Even when he had his last hot streak (three years ago?), I didn't believe he could keep it up. It's astonishing and damning that he's been able to stay here for as long as he has.
Didn't he just sign a contract?
Utter shit player who should've been binned off years ago
Who, Martial?!
Bloody hell, no wonder people think you're a sock puppet poster at times
Martial had some great seasons here, whereas Weigy scored 1 goal total was it? And Falcao was utterly shot away and could barely stand up.
That's before you get into the likes of Ighalo
That's what SHOULD happen.
Could anyone honestly rule out us renewing for 3-4 years to "protect his value?"
I actually held the most grudge against Mourinho for the handling of Martial and Shaw, years after I realize we would have lost feck all bar probably some 50m on replacements (who would have been shit as well) if the club fulfilled his wishes.
Yes. A year or so ago, maybe this would have happened. But for once, I'm fairly confident, the right decision will be made regarding Martial.
If we still have people in charge who think it's a good idea to protect the value of worthless players then we are in dire straits. I'm confident It won't happen
What if he has a brief resurgence and scores a few, once Hojlund has been utterly run into the ground and inevitably spends a fair bit of time out?
Not sure I’d subscribe to the notion that all that held him back from being top class was injuries. It didn’t help, sure, but he was already a deeply flawed player by the time injuries took hold.
More botox than brains.
Man I was so excited about this guy. He had bad luck with successive manager shifting him about, and then the injuries of course.
It takes a lot to endear me to a sulking type like him but his first season was just electric. Shame.
He screams Saudi league these days.
It takes a lot to endear me to a sulking type like him but his first season was just electric. Shame.
He screams Saudi league these days.
I think he’s been fairly good but he’s offered next to nothing for years now so I’m intrigued to see where people rank him and if they are rating him based on his first few seasons alone.Who, Martial?!
Bloody hell, no wonder people think you're a sock puppet poster at times
Martial had some great seasons here, whereas Weigy scored 1 goal total was it? And Falcao was utterly shot away and could barely stand up.
That's before you get into the likes of Ighalo
I dont believe it's his body. It's his mentality that let him down. So no.
Any other club wont tolerate 8 years of this crap performance. We dont owe him nothing. He's lazy when he's fit yoo
Are you serious? Look up a compilation, and look at what he could do at his best. It's a shame how injuries and his own attitude ruined his talent.
At his peak in 2019 - 20 he was good, but there wasn't enough of it. At most two acceptable years in 9 years here.
Worst post Fergie striker? Depends on your criteria, he's earned in excess of 100m pounds in wages, plus his fee. Maybe 160m all up? We've not had an remotely acceptable return for the investment.
Worst post Fergie striker? Depends on your criteria, he's earned in excess of 100m pounds in wages, plus his fee. Maybe 160m all up? We've not had an remotely acceptable return for the investment.
I'm not having any excuses for Martial's leeching of the club of income he did not earn. Every footballer deals with injuries, some more than others (see Phil Jones) but Martial's repeatedly poor performances over the last decade cannot be excused on injuries alone.
Maybe, you just don’t like him. If you did, his significant contribution to ‘that night in Paris’ would be the first that comes to mind. We talk/talked about that game so much, and nobody ever seems to talk about how two Lukaku goals got us right back in the tie. Then there was ‘that night at Palace’ too!
More like last 3 years mate, but carry on.
Maybe he can go to Nice? As part of the Todibo deal.
martial is here to stay. and i think he’s worth investing in. he’ll be able to play well into his forties as he’s not taken anything out of his legs over that last 8 years.