Strange that this whole time they seemingly never considered there might be this much backlash.
Mason Greenwood | Please be respectful and stay on topic
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As far as I'm concerned, he left the club in January 2022. This news doesn't change anything.
We moved on 19 months ago. Now we're continuing to move on.
We moved on 19 months ago. Now we're continuing to move on.
Yup. Maybe they should let decide signings too given they aren’t capable of making decisions on their merit anyway.
I’m sorry but that is incorrect.
No but it wouldn’t be Redcafe without posters being wilfully ignorant. I’m not going back & forth over this so Wum elsewhere or stop filling gaps, I’ve said in this thread what I think.
Cancel culture is when you have audio and video evidence of sexually assaulting someone, the person involved admits he makes mistake and then you don’t get to play for your football club again.
I mean, to be fair, the only thing she did was post that story saying “look what he does to me”. Something her father said she regrets doing, soon after this. The audio was leaked to the media, supposedly, not by the victim, and she did not officially press charges, as far as I know.
We don't half have a habit of finding incredibly talented wrong'uns do we?
Greenwood, Morrison, Giggs .. such a shame.
Greenwood, Morrison, Giggs .. such a shame.
Wasnt left last -- I bet ETH was counting on him being back. But the news article in the Athletic stirred stuff up before United could do some of their media work to help ease him back into the squad. They would have done an interview, and other media activities to soften the landing.
I doubt Serie A or LaLiga clubs are that Woke-ish to begin with.
If his skill-set, talent and desire are still there, no doubt clubs are lining up for him.
Especially so , a champions league club.
Whether he will do the Adebayor style celebration at Old Trafford in future, remains to be seen.
You’ve said that the Athletic only care as much as it is Ubited.
Can we essentially sell him? Would anyone pay? I mean he was probably worth 75 million in todays money before he was arrested.
Does mean him leaving free up a space for a new forward?
Does mean him leaving free up a space for a new forward?
Seriously? If there was substantial evidence to debunk the images and recordings well then why not go into more detail? Cancel culture are you for real he's lucky not to be in prison.
What a shambles this has been. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
And for our club not to stand by it's players in adversity, says alot.
And for our club not to stand by it's players in adversity, says alot.
A shame for all parties involved. Personally with the conclusion that the club came to I would have wished they kept him, however, I am fully aware how difficult it would have been for him to continue his career at Old Trafford with the feelings of a large section of the fans. A shame but hopefully now all parties can move on.
Pay another 10million and get Woghorst back. He knows the system by now.
My heart bleeds.
Well I'm pissed right off, some club is getting a top quality player, and it will be for peanuts...
I wanted him back in , but UTDs board have given in to peer pressure from other quarters..
I hope the boy goes on and plays his football abroad and scores shit load of goals , comes back as a visiting player in CL or Europa league or conference league and scores a Hattrick .... and i will cheer every fecking goal, I've followed this club since 8 yrs of age and I'm seriously thinking of feck it now .....
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I wanted him back in , but UTDs board have given in to peer pressure from other quarters..
I hope the boy goes on and plays his football abroad and scores shit load of goals , comes back as a visiting player in CL or Europa league or conference league and scores a Hattrick .... and i will cheer every fecking goal, I've followed this club since 8 yrs of age and I'm seriously thinking of feck it now .....
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It’s pretty clear from the statement that he will be leaving the club never to return. Whether that’s a loan with buy option / requirement or an outright sale.
I'm really not sure what your point is. Crafton primarily covers United, so it's not surprising he's been over this story and it won't be surprising if he doesn't cover MG when it involves another club.
Because quite obviously it would have implications to this relationship and mother of his child
He'll go out on loan abroad and maybe we'll sell him in a season or two. We won't get shit for him and we won't get a replacement.
Which is not saying. . .
‘You think that a footballer having a recording of him sexually assaulting someone has been used as a stick to attack United.’
I get where you’re trying to go & I can’t be bothered with someone ignoring any nuance.
He’s probably earned enough to retire & stay out of the public eye for the rest of his days.
If he wants to continue football I imagine he will need to go abroad as the abuse for the terraces will be bad
If he wants to continue football I imagine he will need to go abroad as the abuse for the terraces will be bad
Not really they took a witness statement from the victim and she told the club he didn't do it. We can all speculate whether he did or didn't but he's leaving for a reason, if people can't figure out why he's apologising for mistakes but denying criminal acts that can only be wilful ignorance.
So basically the club believe he is innocent but he's best leaving due to the immense spotlight it would have on everyone? Bit odd.
Are people defending him in here just forgetting that we've all heard that recording or...?
For me, this whole issue boils down to a simple question of whether, as a society, we want to respect the rulings of our legal system or not.
The simple fact of the matter is that our judicial process ended with the determination that Mason Greenwood need not even stand trial. Therefore, we must treat him as an innocent man.
Ultimately, if the “evidence” that was publicly available was sufficient in and of itself, then Mason Greenwood would be in prison.
We are perfectly entitled to critique the way our justice system works in order to iteratively improve its inevitable flaws, but we can never disregard its rulings and sentence people by mob rule.
The simple fact of the matter is that our judicial process ended with the determination that Mason Greenwood need not even stand trial. Therefore, we must treat him as an innocent man.
Ultimately, if the “evidence” that was publicly available was sufficient in and of itself, then Mason Greenwood would be in prison.
We are perfectly entitled to critique the way our justice system works in order to iteratively improve its inevitable flaws, but we can never disregard its rulings and sentence people by mob rule.
This was my instant read of the statements too.
Not sure why it took 6 months of internal investigations, to find out he hadn’t done what was alleged and then still say we have to part ways.
A real shit show for the club but then it wouldn’t be any other way I guess.
Bingo.
Anyone saying that statement means anything other than the club want to minimise the shitshow around a player they want to sell is very naïve.
He should be the next one out the door. Whether or not you agree with the decision regarding Greenwood, the way the club went about it with the late u-turn shows zero competent leadership.
Correct decision. There is no doubt about that.
You support Mason more than United then?Nuance?
You genuinely think the Athletic care more because it’s United. Imagine that being the thing you take from this saga.
Its called cancel culture, look at the pressure the club was under the minute people got a sniff he was about to return
They may not legally be able to release the evidence.
The correct decision.
They should just have spent those 6 months doing daily polls and jay walks.
Every club now knows he’s leaving. Not exactly sure what bargaining power there would be for a fee after that. Unless uncle saudi decide to be kind.