They actually said that no insinuation about the veracity of claims can be made from the fact that they are still together. That's factual, not an assumption or an accusation. You've misunderstood, deliberately or accidentally.
Mason Greenwood | Please be respectful and stay on topic
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Did she ever continue the role play for 6 months of police investigation?
No I am not. Your reading comprehension is abysmal, as I've explicitly and specifically addressed this in my last paragraph.
I said that your constant reiteration of them living together somehow meaning the abuse didn't happen wasn't consistent with real-world statistics.
If I adopted your rhetoric, I'd say you're seemingly heavily invested in making positive assumptions as if you wanted him to be innocent.
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You know you’ve won the argument when a reply like this comes back…
So your experience with your ex is enough to convince you that Greenwood is innocent. I mean, has anyone even once said that this was a role play? And if it was a role play, can you explain to me why no one has said anything? And explain the sequence of events that, someone who was vindictive enough to record a role play with, presumably, the sole purpose of convicting said person with it, would then decide “oh actually let’s get back together”?
There are far more plausible theories than this far fetched role play idea of yours - but you’re choosing to look the other way. Classic case of confirmation bias.
Anyway, so back to the question. What if it was YOUR daughter?
You’ll be saying he scores a hatrick against us next. What you need to understand here is that you actively relish his guilt, whereas Spaghetti clearly has an unbiased birds eye view of the whole situation. Plus his girlfriend liked role play, so that's pretty definitive and you should apologise and leave the site.
The guy f... up but this all she is a victim is a serious breach of intelligence. She actually married Him so it just reeks of an abusive relationship (on both sides) very much like the Deep-Heard one. Mufc lack of opinion about this is pathetic
From what I can see his selection was controversial at the time and he only had two appearances. A move to West Ham also fell through due to protests so it definitely affected his career, and rightly so.
I didn’t say anything to the contrary. We don’t know. As I said, we can only make assumptions.
In a thread full of terrible takes this has to be one of the very worst. You’re accusing her of being abusive to him? Why? Because they got married? Have a word with yourself ffs.
English is not my first language, so I may not always get everything perfectly, though I don’t think there have been any misunderstandings here, I think you are trying to be patronising.
Of course I want him to be innocent. Who in their right mind wouldn’t want a 19 year old to be innocent, especially when he plays for their favourite team.
I have not made constant references to them still being together, you’ve made that up.
I don’t use Facebook but the Instagram comments have always been a total bin fire, so I wouldn’t read too much into that. People just say any crap to get likes, whatever happens to be trending at that point in time - stuff like lame Maguire jokes or repeatedly saying “announce <latest transfer target>”. They also tend to blame the social media admin for posting stuff after a bad result. These aren’t intelligent people. Most of them probably couldn’t point to Manchester on a map either.
If it was my daughter.
1- if I believed it was something of nothing, I’d support them both.
2- if I believed he had mistreated her, I’d cut his balls off and feed them to him.
Sounds like some people on here, funnily enough
Quality control
Well its simple mate. If a person is abusive to you its a break up. You do not continue the relationship. Greenwood is obviously stupid but she is not Tina Turner by any means.
Not convince me no. I am not convinced either way, how could any of us be with the little information we have? We can only reflect on personal experience and our faith in mankind.
There have been lots of claims of role play, I’m sure you can Google it.
This would have been the best way to handle this.
Absolutely astonishing ignorance. Just google it, you'll educate yourself within a few minutes.
I know some journo's are saying he will never play for United again (and nor should he) but the statement is quite vague and leaves it open doesn't it? If he goes out on loan and does well there (and we do shit), I wonder if they'll try and bring him back again
It is not that simple
Actually it’s not that simple. You obviously haven’t a fecking clue. Ironic you’re calling Greenwood stupid but whatever.
You already did.
Yes I think so too. Or a potential buy-back clause if we sell him.
Quality control
Offcourse. If you are a Mufc potential player prehaps able of earning 150 000 a week you really dont want to break up with that person no matter how abusive he is to you
Disgraceful comment
It’s a discussion forum, and we are discussing something about which nobody knows the truth. We can talk nicely and reflect on our personal experiences. Some people will hope he’s guilty, and others will hope he isn’t.
Nobody’s opinions are definitive, nobody needs to leave the site if they don’t agree, and nobody needs to make patronising comments just because they don’t like another persons experience.
Only 2 people actually know the truth, and it’ll probably stay like that forever. You need to understand that before joining this discussion.
Right decision but the club is coming across as a complete joke.
I dont want him in the team but the reallity is he is a young player with a lot of talent and she didnt break up with him.
If she did I would have had much more understanding.
If she did I would have had much more understanding.
I find it hard to believe if that were the case, the couple didn't release a joint statement saying this wasn't what it looked like at first and we'd like privacy to get on with our lives etc.
The only reason I can think that didn't happen was because it was exactly what it looked like.
90% of fans on facebook are from a certain continent.
Thing I don't get, even if you're the biggest Greenwood fan in the world, even if you think he's 100% innocent and should be playing first team football yesterday... is it actually worth all the craziness that will come with it? You might have your opinion, but you have to accept that lots of people have a very different opinion - and, whether you like it or not, there would be an insane backlash against United and MG himself.
Non stop articles, non-stop media pressure, ETH and players getting asked about it constantly, pressure on sponsors, pressure on advertisers, it would literally just be the story of our whole season, and possibly even longer... and at that point is Mason Greenwood really worth it? It'll be an absolute circus, and for what? A very good footballer sure, but hey, there are lots of very good footballers.
Non stop articles, non-stop media pressure, ETH and players getting asked about it constantly, pressure on sponsors, pressure on advertisers, it would literally just be the story of our whole season, and possibly even longer... and at that point is Mason Greenwood really worth it? It'll be an absolute circus, and for what? A very good footballer sure, but hey, there are lots of very good footballers.
Christ its not a competition to get the worst post. But well done I guess.
What part does leaking the “evidence” online play? For me this is where this logic breaks down. They surely would have known that once seen, his career would be in jeopardy never mind possible police action.
There was no way back for him. Having the evidence so public is just damning to his career.
And then to have witnesses just drop out of no where. If it was roleplay, a statement would have popped up within the first week or so.
I believe in second chances, but not in a career where you are in the spotlight earning silly figures. You get one shot. Good luck to him and his partner as parents but no chance could he have represented Manchester United again.
And then to have witnesses just drop out of no where. If it was roleplay, a statement would have popped up within the first week or so.
I believe in second chances, but not in a career where you are in the spotlight earning silly figures. You get one shot. Good luck to him and his partner as parents but no chance could he have represented Manchester United again.
You have repeatedly stated that people who want him gone must 'want him to be guilty'. It's rubbish, and means you don't get to give advice to other posters on their conduct.
I know there is zero chance you will acknowledge this though.
The roleplay argument doesn't make any sense. If it was just roleplay that surely would have been published the very next morning.
"It was a private sex-game that accidentally got published online."
Oh, nothing to see here - young kids having sex, let's spend a few weeks discussing young people's view on sex these days and the suitability of making such a serious topic into a sex-game.
Instead we have messages of support, statements about trying times, CPS involvement, a witness statement that was later retracted and a 7 month process in which no-one has said anything about role-playing.
If it was consensual roleplay this story very likely would have been dead on arrival.
"It was a private sex-game that accidentally got published online."
Oh, nothing to see here - young kids having sex, let's spend a few weeks discussing young people's view on sex these days and the suitability of making such a serious topic into a sex-game.
Instead we have messages of support, statements about trying times, CPS involvement, a witness statement that was later retracted and a 7 month process in which no-one has said anything about role-playing.
If it was consensual roleplay this story very likely would have been dead on arrival.
I don't know, I think the likelihood is he did something we would not condone but was not criminal, which is not a good enough reason to destroy his career. That's just a guess though, maybe it's just highly personal to them and they don't want it released.
But really when in any other situation does anybody release evidence to show why somebody didn't do something. Why do we think we have the right to see it?
People in domestic violent relationships famously struggle to leave them. There's a lot of co dependency. It often takes many attempts to leave.
In this case the victim was massively failed by the system which allowed greenwood to breach bail and contact her.