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I don't trust the manager though. I've seen Mount playing for years, he's average and not what we need as I don't think he'll work next to Casemiro with Bruno infront.
I really hope we get this deal done. He’s a top quality player and exactly the profile we need to implement the managers’ vision. I love it when we get the managers’ first choice. Honestly at 55/60m he’s a great deal. People get too hung up on the one year left bollocks. All that does it represent an opportunity to get a deal done at a reasonable price. If he had 3 years left, Chelsea would want 80m for him. He’d be out of our price range. But because of circumstances we can get the managers’ first choice in at a decent price, nice and early in the window. What’s not to like?
He a two time Chelsea player of the year, CL winner, England regular. PL proven in spades. Only 24. And he is the player the manager wants. To get this profile of player for 55-58m from a PL rival is a very rare opportunity.
He’s also a very good player. I love this deal and can’t wait for it to go through. Fingers crossed. One of the most sensible transfers I’ve seen us do in ages.
He a two time Chelsea player of the year, CL winner, England regular. PL proven in spades. Only 24. And he is the player the manager wants. To get this profile of player for 55-58m from a PL rival is a very rare opportunity.
He’s also a very good player. I love this deal and can’t wait for it to go through. Fingers crossed. One of the most sensible transfers I’ve seen us do in ages.
Yeah, I'm sure.
The NYSE forbids press releases about company changes that could move the stock price dramatically during trading hours. For example, the sale of the club will be announced when the stock market is closed as per their rules. If it was announced during trading hours, multiple people will see that news before it becomes public knowledge and could buy stock just before the announcement and sell right after.
Players count as recruitment or staffing so it's not something they have to be mindful of the stock market for and announce outside of regular trading hours (2:30pm - 9:00pm). It would be like Microsoft having to be mindful of announcing every new staff member outside of trading hours. Ultimately recruitment doesn't affect the stock price that much.
From what I remember, most of our recent transfers have been announced on a Sunday? Or maybe that's just the last few big ones I remember.
Exactly, Havertz hasn’t had a good year with Chelsea and Arsenal have spent £65m on him. Mount for £60m is a good deal for an English player, usually players like him go for over £100m. Even though he had a bad season he’s still a good player, would prefer Caicedo but ETH must have a plan of how to fit him into the team with Bruno.
So either in place of Bruno who hardly misses a kick. And a point back midfield 3 that will get overrun and bypassed against any semi competent side.
It was a joke.
It was a joke.
Ah okay, missed itCould also be done and agreed already and just waiting to announce in the new financial quarter as it would have downed the numbers they just announced - next week they go into the new period and hopefully the new owners accounting…..
They really don't, only Rice and Grealish ever cost that and they had several years left on their contracts. A player like Mount whose best quality is his workrate is never sold for anything like that.
I hate the black and white judgements of football fans.
Players seem to be either the greatest ever or fecking shit.
This guy is clearly a very good player who could help us beat decent but not top 4 quality teams like Crystal Palace, West ham, Brentford, Brighton, Spurs away from home. All teams we dropped points against last season. Those are the types of fixture that make the difference of being in a title race.
Players seem to be either the greatest ever or fecking shit.
This guy is clearly a very good player who could help us beat decent but not top 4 quality teams like Crystal Palace, West ham, Brentford, Brighton, Spurs away from home. All teams we dropped points against last season. Those are the types of fixture that make the difference of being in a title race.
The actual article says that we are willing to improve the structure of the bid but not pay any more than £55M
Yes, so more money up front might be the way to get it done
I'm sure EtH will make this midfield work. He plays a midget DM and often a LB at CB (Martinez and Shaw), both work absolutely fine. He also played his Am (Bruno, Eriksen) often deeper. And I don't think this is a square pegs in round holes thing, EtH knows what attributes he needs in players to be effective in a EtH system.
I really can see this trio work. Bruno and Mount are both hard workers, Casemiro is a rock defensively and the defenders are expected to step up to the midfield, if needed.
Standard muppet season stuff.
‘Ain’t no Mount bid high enough’. I’ll get my coat.
£55 million and one pennay!
You can't judge a guy on one season - we've had players before who needed time to settle in (and they played regularly). Or did you want ETH sacked? If we overpaid for anyone it was Sancho
Yeah, looks like he is better at linking midfield and attack but I have seen few Chelsea fans saying he dropped deeper to progress the ball.
Looks like there is a shift in tactical approach with managers preferring attack oriented players in midfield, with these attacking players forming the attacking 5 or 6 with FBs or CBs stepping up to support midfield.
I think this is how Arsenal will also set up with Rice, Odegaard, Havertz midfield. Eriksen isn't too dissimilar profile to Mount too, just that he didnt have legs to press and cover the ground like he used to at his peak.
If United are willing to improve the bid now, then it's obviously getting done.
But it makes United look weak IMO. Now clubs know they'll even raise their "final" bids.
Wouldn't even put it beyond United still paying the full £65m
But it makes United look weak IMO. Now clubs know they'll even raise their "final" bids.
Wouldn't even put it beyond United still paying the full £65m
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Usual Club Mouthpieces are Saying we are Sticking with Our Valuations only Structure is up for Discussion though how much stock you want to put in these briefings is upto you . My personal opinion Chelsea would climb down and this gets done for £55m or else United Walk .
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Shouldnt be more than 55m at this point even with the re-negotiation. Have to remember that we already upped our bid 3 times and raised it to 55m. We cant brief everyone and then go back and raise it again. Only way is to change the term of the deal.
That seems to be the strategy indeed. I am not convinced if this is the best direction as Casemiro can't cover that much ground and Bruno is by nature very attacking (and poor defensively). Nevertheless Mount can be the one for the future so no problem with that transfer. I think this season getting only Mount will have some serious consequences - for example most likely we won't be moving McTominay and Casemiro will need to play all games, but maybe I'm just too negative. I have nothing against Mount and I rate him, just not sure how he fits us as going back to the main point - we will push him deeper than he usually plays what is always a risk.
One remark about Eriksen, I don't think he ever played in that deeper role for longer period of time, whenever I saw him he was the most advanced midfielder so it was always very risky tactic to pair him with Casemiro/Bruno. I guess it paid off but we can't continue like that away from home (I am actually quite surprised ETH insisted on Eriksen so much but that's a different topic).
Boredom kicks in and you being to tire of the endless transfer tweets...but then nobody makes us read them, but stuck at work with nothing better to do makes it harder not to check.
United being as big as they are means the media can easily turn any transfer into a long drama...I'm at the stage just get the bloody thing done already!
Mount and a GK for pre-season will give EtH something to work on...a CF can follow later with the new owners.
United being as big as they are means the media can easily turn any transfer into a long drama...I'm at the stage just get the bloody thing done already!
Mount and a GK for pre-season will give EtH something to work on...a CF can follow later with the new owners.
Ha! Bravo sir
We paid £80m for Maguire, regardless of length of time left on contract it should be a small factor. Sterling went for £50m in his last year and was older, Kane is still commanding a fee of over £100m. Bellingham just went for £90m as well. Chilwell was £50m, AWB £50m, these guys aren’t world class but commanding high fees, mostly due to being English and meeting the registration rules.
Mount in previous seasons has provided more than just work rate and does score and provide assists. If he had more than a year left on his contract the price would be close to £90m for him.
A lot of Chelsea fans are bemused at why he’s being sold as they see what a good player he is and what he can contribute.
Yeah, I want him sacked. That’s some masterful deduction there.
Can we get the rest of the song please?
I’ve peaked already. I’m happy for you to take it on and split the royalties 50/50 though.
He wouldn’t be worth £60 million if he had 5 years left on his contract!
I'd say people need to look at the likes of Rashford and Shaw this season when compared to last season to see the difference that team performance can make to those of an individual player within that team.
Mount might not have had the best season last year but he was exceptional in the two prior to that. If we're capable of extracting that level of performance out of him, and Ten Hag clearly believes that he can, then I'd honestly say 55 million will actually look like a very good price tag on our end.
Mount might not have had the best season last year but he was exceptional in the two prior to that. If we're capable of extracting that level of performance out of him, and Ten Hag clearly believes that he can, then I'd honestly say 55 million will actually look like a very good price tag on our end.
I fully agree this is problem when chatting with football fans but I think with people in life in general now. Nobody willing to consider the variables or the grey, and they often look to dismiss points to boost the validity of their own. Not that we can’t all have different opinions it it what it’s based upon.
All players are different and may as you say offer different benefits to the team when viewing their attributes. With Mount I believe he can offer a consistency that our current squad options probably lack. He can bring the goals from midfield that both Scott and Fred chip in with and he works as hard as both. He can also, in a pinch, cover positions further up the pitch.
I actually recognise the contributions of both players for us but if we do sell either or both now, Mount can take that role while also rotating with Eriksen.
A lot of the worry is not ability, it's suitability. Someone between him and Bruno will have to play out of position. If we play a 4 1 41 with both as 8s Bruno has some experience playing there can't say the same for Mount. He probably has less than 20 games as cm at least as a Chelsea player. And he has never set the world alight playing there.
A lot about this is just guess work he has no history of scoring from midfield when not playing in one of the attacking midfield positions. He is a better player than McFred but we can come to find that McFred are better deep midfielders than Mount. To be fair we don't even know where he will play, maybe as some suggest Bruno will be the one to come deep. We will have to wait until August to find out what EtH is cooking up.
When Mount played behind Havertz the false 9 was Mount actually a CAM or playing deeper?
so we are back in for him ? well according to Mirror football we are.
Agree with all of this. I'm hoping this gets done and think he will surprise a few people next season.
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