Mbappe is on a 630m contract

[simonhch]

Think it is 1.5m a week, for 6m a month, 72m a year basic. For three years plus 180m signing on bonus plus 70m a year loyalty bonus. Take you to about 610m. Not sure where the extra 20 comes from.

fecking absurd and just shows how these state owned clubs have completely distorted football. No sane club can pay anything like that to one player and not end up bankrupt. Unless of course they have a bottomless pit of money, shady accounting practices and a completely useless financial standards mechanism to police them.

Really a grotesque bunch. Seeing those numbers it’s no small wonder that Mbappe is the entitled, man child, fecking prick that he is. Put in Messi and Neymar’s contracts and PSGs real financial commitment must be beyond insane. Probably those three exceeds 100% of their real turnover, before you bring in any other expenses and wages.

But we all know they’ll be rife with fake sponsorship deals, like City, and continue to financially dope unimpeded until they can win everything and pretend they are a great club. Instead of the plastic, piece of shit institution, founded in 1970, owned by human rights abusing Royals that they are. Again, much like City.

Grotesque. Nothing these clubs do on a football level can be respected or properly acknowledged in the pantheon of football history. A permanent asterisk on every “achievement”.

 

[In Rainbows]

Think it is 1.5m a week, for 6m a month, 72m a year basic. For three years plus 180m signing on bonus plus 70m a year loyalty bonus. Take you to about 610m. Not sure where the extra 20 comes from.

fecking absurd and just shows how these state owned clubs have completely distorted football. No sane club can pay anything like that to one player and not end up bankrupt. Unless of course they have a bottomless pit of money, shady accounting practices and a completely useless financial standards mechanism to police them.

Really a grotesque bunch. Seeing those numbers it’s no small wonder that Mbappe is the entitled, man child, fecking prick that he is. Put in Messi and Neymar’s contracts and PSGs real financial commitment must be beyond insane. Probably those three exceeds 100% of their real turnover, before you bring in any other expenses and wages.

But we all know they’ll be rife with fake sponsorship deals, like City, and continue to financially dope unimpeded until they can win everything and pretend they are a great club. Instead of the plastic, piece of shit institution, founded in 1970, owned by human rights abusing Royals that they are. Again, much like City.

Grotesque. Nothing these clubs do on a football level can be respected or properly acknowledged in the pantheon of football history. A permanent asterisk on every “achievement”.

Loyalty bonus goes from 70m to 80m to 90m

 

[simonhch]

Loyalty bonus goes from 70m to 80m to 90m

there you have it. fecking gross.

 

[NinjaZombie]

346M to French government, nice.

Somehow though, I'm not buying those figures one bit, can't blame me too much though, most of the media reports about PSG for the last 18 months have been fan fiction.

This here is why there is little being done to oil clubs I guess. How much have the UK government benefited from Eastlands Abu Dhabi FC?

 

[B20]

Is the problem that he isn't worth that money?

Or that if he is worth that money, that money should come from traditional clubs that "earned their money"?

The problem is that no traditional club could ever hope to pay such a salary.

It's ten times what we are paying Salah.

 

[AndySmith1990]

Loyalty bonus goes from 70m to 80m to 90m

Loyalty. Ha

 

[Mb194dc]

So much for egalitie eh? Earns more than the total wage bill of other Ligue 1 clubs? What's the point?

Footballs financial structure is a mess. Qatar are a huge liquid gas supplier to Europe and hosting the world cup...

No one going to complain much.

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

Is the problem that he isn't worth that money?

Or that if he is worth that money, that money should come from traditional clubs that "earned their money"?

Problem is non state owned clubs can't compete with this level of spending. Mbappe will be a billionaire by the end of his career just like Pep's family is when City bought Pep's brother a club.

Ultimately all trophies will just go to oil clubs. This doesn't affect clubs like Arsenal as they have rarely been in contention for trophies. But it does affect traditional trophy competing clubs.

 

[TheReligion]

@JPRouve @Oly Francis

What do we make of this?

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Think it is 1.5m a week, for 6m a month, 72m a year basic. For three years plus 180m signing on bonus plus 70m a year loyalty bonus. Take you to about 610m. Not sure where the extra 20 comes from.

fecking absurd and just shows how these state owned clubs have completely distorted football. No sane club can pay anything like that to one player and not end up bankrupt. Unless of course they have a bottomless pit of money, shady accounting practices and a completely useless financial standards mechanism to police them.

Really a grotesque bunch. Seeing those numbers it’s no small wonder that Mbappe is the entitled, man child, fecking prick that he is. Put in Messi and Neymar’s contracts and PSGs real financial commitment must be beyond insane. Probably those three exceeds 100% of their real turnover, before you bring in any other expenses and wages.

But we all know they’ll be rife with fake sponsorship deals, like City, and continue to financially dope unimpeded until they can win everything and pretend they are a great club. Instead of the plastic, piece of shit institution, founded in 1970, owned by human rights abusing Royals that they are. Again, much like City.

Grotesque. Nothing these clubs do on a football level can be respected or properly acknowledged in the pantheon of football history. A permanent asterisk on every “achievement”.

Can only imagine what Pep & Haaland are really on at City if PSG are prepared to pay these sums for the very best.
Absolutely insane numbers.

At least with PSG here it’s public so everyone can really see what non state owned clubs are up against when trying to attract the very best players and managers. City are still so cloak and dagger, trying to maintain a facade of a clubs spending no much more than top traditional clubs, something so many chumps just lap up.

 

[giorno]

This can't be right. There is no way they can afford this and still comply with FFP

hehehehe

 

[Slevs]

Can only imagine what Pep & Haaland are really on at City if PSG are prepared to pay these sums for the very best.
Absolutely insane numbers.

At least with PSG here it’s public so everyone can really see what non state owned clubs are up against when trying to attract the very best players and managers. City are still so cloak and dagger, trying to maintain a facade of a clubs spending no much more than top traditional clubs, something so many chumps just lap up.

City have the Mancini offshore payments scheme they were doing, don't they?

 

[Catt]

I can't relate.

 

[Zen86]

Problem is non state owned clubs can't compete with this level of spending. Mbappe will be a billionaire by the end of his career just like Pep's family is when City bought Pep's brother a club.

Ultimately all trophies will just go to oil clubs. This doesn't affect clubs like Arsenal as they have rarely been in contention for trophies. But it does affect traditional trophy competing clubs.

Football is a more level playing field since the oil clubs arrived don’t you know

 

[Oly Francis]

@JPRouve @Oly Francis

What do we make of this?

Very hard to say, it's frustrating that we don't have access to the clubs accounts now (instead of next year) because with such amounts, it would clearly show.

Some things are weird though. I can totally buy the annual wage of 70M gross, that wouldn't surprise me. The combination of both loyalty bonus and signing on bonus is strange, especially since, according to the newspapper, they would give a loyalty bonus right after he renews his contract, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Also, PSG got a big warning from FFP for 2022, I don't see how this contract would comply with the recommandations they got for 2023 considering that we still have Messi and Ramos on the payroll.

 

[Josep Dowling]

Can only imagine what Pep & Haaland are really on at City if PSG are prepared to pay these sums for the very best.
Absolutely insane numbers.

At least with PSG here it’s public so everyone can really see what non state owned clubs are up against when trying to attract the very best players and managers. City are still so cloak and dagger, trying to maintain a facade of a clubs spending no much more than top traditional clubs, something so many chumps just lap up.

Exactly. They are praised for how cheap Haaland was and recently it was revealed he was earning £900k a week and nothing has been said about it. Klopp says no one can compete with City’s spending and he almost had to come out to apologise and make excuses he was misquoted. Why does City get so much protection in the media?

 

[Idxomer]

Exactly. They are praised for how cheap Haaland was and recently it was revealed he was earning £900k a week and nothing has been said about it. Klopp says no one can compete with City’s spending and he almost had to come out to apologise and make excuses he was misquoted. Why does City get so much protection in the media?

Because they're paying them to be protected.

 

[adexkola]

The problem is that no traditional club could ever hope to pay such a salary.

It's ten times what we are paying Salah.

A salary/wage cap should fix the problem then. Peg compensation to what the average traditional club can afford to pay.

Problem is non state owned clubs can't compete with this level of spending. Mbappe will be a billionaire by the end of his career just like Pep's family is when City bought Pep's brother a club.

Ultimately all trophies will just go to oil clubs. This doesn't affect clubs like Arsenal as they have rarely been in contention for trophies. But it does affect traditional trophy competing clubs.

It's a greater form of inequality that has always existed in the game. There were always clubs that couldn't compete with level of spending at the top.

Exactly, it makes little difference to 99% of the football pyramid. It's a problem now because the blue bloods (who did most of the shafting) are now getting shafted?

There's a simple way to fix this but few advocate for it because they don't want football to be fair, they want a return to pre-Abramovich days.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Those scumbags could improve safety, work conditions and maybe even give healthcare for every migrant worker who builds their infrastructure instead of giving one show pony in Paris a contract but that doesn't get them the glamour they seek.

 

[giorno]

A salary/wage cap should fix the problem then. Peg compensation to what the average traditional club can afford to pay.

No. Salary caps are a terrible idea. Why curtail the players' earning power?

You want parity? A) actually enforce your rules, punish those who break them and B) share revenue among clubs. Not just tv money, *all revenue*

 

[Giggsyking]

346M to French government, nice.

Somehow though, I'm not buying those figures one bit, can't blame me too much though, most of the media reports about PSG for the last 18 months have been fan fiction.

PSG fans are shameless.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Do you get a batsignal whenever City/PSG are mentioned?

 

[TheReligion]

Is the problem that he isn't worth that money?

Or that if he is worth that money, that money should come from traditional clubs that "earned their money"?

I imagine both are a problem?

Strange question

 

[Adisa]

I get the arguments against FFP, I don't like it but paying a player €630m in 3 years takes the biscuit when the club does not make anywhere near that kind of money to support that contract. There has to be balance.

 

[JPRouve]

@JPRouve @Oly Francis

What do we make of this?

Nothing, I haven't followed and don't care at the minute.

 

[adexkola]

No. Salary caps are a terrible idea. Why curtail the players' earning power?

You want parity? A) actually enforce your rules, punish those who break them and B) share revenue among clubs. Not just tv money, *all revenue*

Because excessive player earnings is detrimental to the overall ecosystem? Clubs need to be sustainable financially. Fans need to not be ripped off to see games. And it's not like the alternative to unlimited earning potential for players is poverty.

 

[giorno]

Because excessive player earnings is detrimental to the overall ecosystem? Clubs need to be sustainable financially. Fans need to not be ripped off to see games. And it's not like the alternative to unlimited earning potential for players is poverty.

Nobody's saying clubs should spend what they don't have. My point is Mbappé should not be limited to earn 5m a year if he can earn 100m just so Reims can compete with PSG

 

[Conor]

Do you get a batsignal whenever City/PSG are mentioned?

Brilliant , he's like an oilier BDL.

 

[Ludens the Red]

Do you get a batsignal whenever City/PSG are mentioned?

 

[Gycraig]

No. Salary caps are a terrible idea. Why curtail the players' earning power?

You want parity? A) actually enforce your rules, punish those who break them and B) share revenue among clubs. Not just tv money, *all revenue*

it’s not quite that simple though is it, it’s not just “curtailing” the players earning potential other clubs have to “try” to compete with this. So the working class fans end up Paying more and more and more for tickets, forthe sports subscription etc.


They will be playing 1 player more in 1 year than we have spent on players in 3-4 years, they haven’t won a champions league.

We are in a cost of living crisis people won’t be able to afford to go soon and more and more people I know are getting fire sticks etc.

To be honest hearing stuff like this just starts to put me off football all together.

 

[adexkola]

Nobody's saying clubs should spend what they don't have. My point is Mbappé should not be limited to earn 5m a year if he can earn 100m just so Reims can compete with PSG

Doesn't revenue sharing (your recommendation) reduce top player compensation then?

If competitiveness of a league is not a concern then this thread is moot. But if the goal is for Reims to compete with PSG, player compensation is one of the many factors that need to be considered.

Analog to evil American sports: LeBron is easily worth a billion dollars a year in a non restricted league (or at least he was a few years ago). He doesn't get paid that and the league is better off for it.

 

[Brophs]

Not mbad

 

[giorno]

Doesn't revenue sharing (your recommendation) reduce top player compensation then?

Yeah of course. But it's not a arbitrary limitation imposed on the labour who brings in the money. A difference of ethics

If competitiveness of a league is not a concern then this thread is moot.

It's not about parity. It's about commenting how much money PSG are paying Mbappé

But if the goal is for Reims to compete with PSG, player compensation is one of the many factors that need to be considered

The way for Reims to compete is to raise their financial level, not curtail how PSG can do with its money

Analog to evil American sports: LeBron is easily worth a billion dollars a year in a non restricted league (or at least he was a few years ago). He doesn't get paid that and the league is better off for it.

I personally disagree with this, but that's me. I don't know whether the league is better off or not in truth, financially speaking

 

[TheReligion]

Brilliant , he's like an oilier BDL.

I’m thinking Daniel Day-Lewis in ‘There Will Be Blood’

 

[Slevs]

Salary/Wage cap isn't gonna stop City(confirmed afaik)/PSG from circumventing it with the offshore "Mancini" payments.

Its like saying Liverpool paid 65/70 (whatever the amount is) for Nunez whereas City were smart and got Haaland for much less. Its not taking into consideration how much Haaland is making officially and unofficially.

 

[Ish]

Come on gents, clearly an agenda against Kylian because those articles fail to mention that he also proviedes services as the assistant manager, manager and director of football of that club! Factor all of those in and the money makes a little more sense!

 

[Withnail]

Is the problem that he isn't worth that money?

Or that if he is worth that money, that money should come from traditional clubs that "earned their money"?

Nobody's worth that money and there's no way that could fall in line with any kind of reasonable FFP rules. PSG are taking the absolute piss.

 

[Gycraig]

Yeah of course. But it's not a arbitrary limitation imposed on the labour who brings in the money. A difference of ethics


It's not about parity. It's about commenting how much money PSG are paying Mbappé


The way for Reims to compete is to raise their financial level, not curtail how PSG can do with its money


I personally disagree with this, but that's me. I don't know whether the league is better off or not in truth, financially speaking

But it’s not psg money is it it’s psg owners money, completely different animal.

how can Reims “raise” there financial level enough to compete with an oil state pumping money into a club through dodgy sponsorships whos paying 1 player more in 1 season than the rest of the league probably spend on transfers in 3-4 years.

this was the point of ffp which is obviously completely failing

 

[adexkola]

Nobody's worth that money and there's no way that could fall in line with any kind of reasonable FFP rules. PSG are taking the absolute piss.

I agree with your first point.

Second, I don't care much for FFP so there is that.

 

[Tallis]

If the sheikhs can use the 4m per week to feed 20,000 hungry kids, that would give me a lot more joy than watching Mbappe sulk and get knocked out of the CL