Like someone said, wealth redistribution is better than having the leeches at United and Liverpool suck and prey on the community. Not that I think either are healthy for the game.
Mbappe is on a 630m contract
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
FFP is essentially like the bank who gives out loans.
Club with limited funds but ambitious - loan accepted but you can only spend what you make and we will monitor you strictly
State/Oil club - go wild you crazy bitches, you have collateral and can pay off any debt
In essence, its not Financial Fair Play, its Financial Stability, to ensure clubs don't go bankrupt.
Club with limited funds but ambitious - loan accepted but you can only spend what you make and we will monitor you strictly
State/Oil club - go wild you crazy bitches, you have collateral and can pay off any debt
In essence, its not Financial Fair Play, its Financial Stability, to ensure clubs don't go bankrupt.
Not far off Messi wage at Barca?
Aye, thought that was absolutely mental, he had to backtrack so quickly because the media were painting him as xenophobic.
Clearly plenty of people in media on the payroll.
But I was told he chose to stay because of the project and other clubs were offering him the same terms? 
And you don't see how the likes of PSG have contributed to inflating prices? It's only going to get worse if left unchecked. It's bad for the game in general.
Yeah but isn't the entire goal of American sports to funnel as money as possible into the billionaire owners pockets?
Half of that will be going to the tax man.
None of the money we spend on transfers goes to the tax man.
what does that have to do with the price of cheese, they are spending more on 1 persons wages than united have spent on players in 2-3 years it’s genuinely obscene.
genuinely makes you wonder how much city are paying under the table.
We had a similar thread earlier, players earning what they do in football is far from a problem.
The biggest problem in football is the talent being boarded at the top. This is what needs to be stopped. Footballs actually quite lucky because the talent is so massive, but the problem becomes when players who should be starting matches elsewhere are wasting their careers on the bench for the sake of depth. Stop that, and there will be more than enough talent going around and automatically you'll see more upsets.
I think my idea was a hard limit on the number of senior players a clubs allowed to hold in total including the players they've loaned out. No buy back clauses.
The biggest problem in football is the talent being boarded at the top. This is what needs to be stopped. Footballs actually quite lucky because the talent is so massive, but the problem becomes when players who should be starting matches elsewhere are wasting their careers on the bench for the sake of depth. Stop that, and there will be more than enough talent going around and automatically you'll see more upsets.
I think my idea was a hard limit on the number of senior players a clubs allowed to hold in total including the players they've loaned out. No buy back clauses.
Yes but how can it be addressed? If a player wants to make 100k/week on Chelsea's bench rather than make 50k/week in the Everton starting 11, he should be allowed to do that.
Remember watching the 6 million dollar man when I was a kid. This prick is the 600m dollar man. Messi Mpape Neimar their combined contracts are probably more than PSG would normally make in 20 years.
So my solution is a hard cap on the number of over 21 players a clubs allowed to hold on their books (that includes the ones they've loaned out). Automatically that'll diversify the pool.
Its not the perfect solution, and it'll need a good few things thinking about. But ultimately, that's the best way to stop that happening.
Ticket prices, etc, are up to the clubs. Revenue sharing doesn't mean they have to make everything more expensive.
And yes, as i said before, it would have the effect of curtailing earning power for players(well, for top tier players. There'd be more money for good ones). It is a difference of ethics. Players logically can't earn money the clubs don't have. But the clubs wouldn't have that money, as opposed to having it and keeping from the players
Reims would raise their financial profile by having that same Qatari money pumped into their club
And FFP was introduced to prevent owners from bankrupting their clubs, not to create parity
Near 100m more in less years. It's the biggest contract in the history of sports
I wouldn't say "the entire goal"
Yes it is a significant factor in the equation. However the players have a say in the equation as well, with varying levels of success, and splits from revenue are negotiated between two parties. Sports don't benefit if one party enjoys the spoils at the expense of other parties. In football, the benefits of players, clubs, club owners, leagues, football authorities, and fans/supporters should all be considered. It's not just about the players. Or it shouldn't.
Interesting, you could be on to something here. The idea is worth considering.
Well that’s just like uh, your opinion, man.
Really liked the movie Traingle of sadness, recent winner of the Palme d‘Or in Cannes. I’d like to imagine Mbappé and the PSG owners aboard that ship and on that beach alongside Abigail.
Who needs Ballon d’Or and CL, when he has Money d’Oil and was in every FIFA cover.
Money can’t buy you love
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And that crippled them. Psg wouldn't even blink at it, and that's the problem.
Yeah, this wouldn't be a bad idea.
I don't understand why me as a football fan wants to create an environment where money's funnelled away from the labour (the players) into the owners.
If you really cared about the fans there are other solutions :
- Cap ticket prices (like Germany)
- Show 1 PL game a week on national TV
Both of these things can happen, and they wouldn't make much of a dent into the revenues that football clubs generate - without funnelling money away from football's labour.
According to one of the linked articles it does. Whether that's true or not is debatable.
"Overall, the World Cup winner takes home about 45% of the figures in his contract – which takes up a quarter of the club’s budget – after taxes."
But with Barcas creative accounting I’d bet any money Messi took home more
What football does need to do more of is look after the players who didn't make it. I wouldn't be opposed to a % of a clubs revenue going towards solidarity payments for players who didn't make the cut, to look after them for a bit after they leave and help them get a career outside of the game.
I wonder what City's books actually look like...would be very interesting to see the true cost of the Haaland deal, and the salaries of some of their bigger names.
Why would I need any shame, since you all seem to carry it for all of us every time there's news about PSG (which btw, has zero to do with the fans for the people in the back of the class), and are absolute bullshit, just like this contract and most of the news about Mbappe since he had the unmitigated gall to turn down Real Madrid and stay in his hometown.
Him wanting Neymar out, him wanting to leave, him going to Real Madrid for sure, him staying, him then wanting to leave again 5 months after renewing, and some of you dummies fall for it every time. This is about on par, and I couldn't give a feck.You monkeys can keep dancing to the media's tune every week, but I'm not interested in that. I just enjoy the fake outrage and how easily most of you fall for it every time. There's some kind of definition about insanity that would be appropriate here...
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For me PSG spending 600m on one player doesn't bother as much as them spending the same amount on the squad overall. They're just throwing away their money. What really gets me in all this is that it's all about pride isn't it? I don't think PSG are convinced that he's worth all that money, no player is to be honest, but him leaving to Real Madrid wasn't something they're willing to accept.
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If they do that it just means it's true. You're supposed to laugh these things off if they're so far from the truth.
I think it's the double of what he was earning at Barcelona.
I'm not sure if this is true or what, as it seems insane but everyone knew he was offered obscene money for him to reject Real Madrid as we also pay a lot to our stars players.
As if he's worth it that much money of course he doesn't, Messi and Ronaldo weren't earning as much and as good as they were we couldn't give him (Ronaldo) more pay raises as it wasn't worth it. With Barcelona they almost go bankrupt and we're talking about two players that have more than 10 ballon d'or between the two.
It's probably a little bit more
It is ok. At least PSG has the money to pay him. It is not like an academy product is demanding money that does not exist at the club.
Football is a microcosm of the living hell happening in society, so why shouldn’t PSG and co be allowed to desecrate the game after their owners pile misery on the rest of us
Didn’t Messi work out at over 1m per week?I think it's the double of what he was earning at Barcelona.
I'm not sure if this is true or what, as it seems insane but everyone knew he was offered obscene money for him to reject Real Madrid as we also pay a lot to our stars players.
As if he's worth it that much money of course he doesn't, Messi and Ronaldo weren't earning as much and as good as they were we couldn't give him (Ronaldo) more pay raises as it wasn't worth it. With Barcelona they almost go bankrupt and we're talking about two players that have more than 10 ballon d'or between the two.