I don't think you can place him up there with the Kante's just yet when he has driven 2 sides to league titles not mid table. We also have the likes of Bernado Silva, De Bruyne, Fabinho, Wijnaldum etc who also play midfield. I like Scott and he is a very unique player so we will see how his season pans out and hopefully he keeps some consistency to earn being compared with some of the winners on this list.He's proven me and a lot of other posters wrong. Surely he's up there as one of the best current central midfielders in the league. I mean the competition currently isn't great with the dearth of world class midfielders at the moment but he's more than held his own in the league while others have wilted.
I agree that he'd be a great 8 in a 4-3-3. Lucky for him its a formation and role that many of the top sides are playing.But in these type of games his job should be to provide the ball to the modern day Scholes, Cantona/Yorke/Sheringham, Beckham, Giggs or fullbacks for a cross.
He can pass quickly and simple with purpose. But he cant create or set/dictate the tempo of play. Yet anyway. He probably never will, but who knows considering the mentality and will of that man.
- Against top teams we should «set him free» in a 433.
- Against «poor» teams he should play deeper (a position he might have to learn but did a lot against good teams for Mourinho) with two more creative players next to him.
It was a question about potential and ceiling. Considering how much McTominay has developed the past two years, who knows what his limitations at his likely peak years (probably 27-28ish) will be? 4-5 years from know.Have you lunatics ever seen Roy Keane play? McT would do well to be even half the player he was.
Keane signed for us as a British record transfer and was much better at Forest than McT has been for us. There's no comparison. I mean, sure, it's possible McT could become as good as he was, but it's incredibly unlikely.It was a question about potential and ceiling. Considering how much McTominay has developed the past two years, who knows what his limitations at his likely peak years (probably 27-28ish) will be? 4-5 years from know.
Remember, Roy Keane was the same age as McTominay when he arrived at Man Utd. I remember Ferguson even used him at right back in his first season.
Must be tough being a Utdfan then. Lots of hate.I also hate how on the Caf, as soon as a young player has a good run of form, he's proclaimed as some mercurial talent by people.
because what I said implies I don't yeah?Must be tough being a Utdfan then. Lots of hate.
Personally, I’m too thrilled about the progress of a young player and enjoy to much to spend time hating that people seem to appreciate it.
I do think we have a couple of midlife crisis’ going on.I also hate how on the Caf, as soon as a young player has a good run of form, he's proclaimed as some mercurial talent by people. How about we not set standards too high for these players, maybe?
Haha calm down . Keane was the greatest midfielder of his generation I'd be happy if McT can surpass someone like ButtFuture United captain and legend. I will be surprised if that doesn’t happen. In the list of midfielder at United, he can surpass Roy Keane.
I think the Fletcher comparison is very apt. I don't see him quite as box-to-box or as mobile as Fletcher, but the heart, desire and energy is there. One thing I would like to see him improve on is his ability to improve his shooting, but he's already scored 2 PL goals this season, so I imagine he's already working on that.If we get Fletcheresque performances out of him consistently that would be great. He will improve over time and with better players around him.
Rashford wasn't pulling up any trees at youth level and nor was McTominay.
Meanwhile, Chong has been and he looks like he probably won't make it.
Funny old game.
Agreed, and possibly Garner can play that role too over next couple of seasons.Hes a decent player, certainly think he is better than Rice who we get linked with quite a bit. However clearly some people overrate him if they think he can even be half as good as Roy Keane
Him and Pogba would make a great midfield if they had a holding midfielder to play with them. Hopefully we can get one in January
Yes, you're the only one who had the vision to notice his potential. You might well be the greatest poster in the history of the Caf, a true footballing Oracle.Am I the only one who hadn't given him any stick? I've said he's a very good player from day 1 and always stated it! The Caf is blind or do not watch many games!
This.Am I the only one who hadn't given him any stick? I've said he's a very good player from day 1 and always stated it! The Caf is blind or do not watch many games!
Disagree - and besides with his current rate of improvement there is no way to put any 'ceiling' on what he can become.Nicky Butt level is his absolute ceiling.
Agreed. Fletcher was not what you consider a world class player yet he was considered indispensable for the team.If we get Fletcheresque performances out of him consistently that would be great. He will improve over time and with better players around him.
Yes, you're the only one who had the vision to notice his potential. You might well be the greatest poster in the history of the Caf, a true footballing Oracle.
His technique is very underrated. He has a much surer first touch than a lot of our team and he’s surprisingly good at coming away with the ball from a group of opponents. He’s probably one of the better overall passers in the team too - probably the best after Pogba. And it’s looking like he’s continuing to improve in that regard as well. He’s already started making those fizzed in grounded passes to the forwards that Carrick used to make. I think any talk of what his ceiling is is a bit premature when he’s improving in all aspects so much.I am not a fan. Yet...
Here is the thing. He has great passion, work rate, scores goals which is great for midfielder and he cost zero. Everything great with all that and if we will use him as squad player then great. I am all into that. Imo, squad players are just like McT. Players who can do their job on decent level.
But, we are Man Utd. We have ambition to be on top of the league again and be no1 in England again. So if we are talking about first 11 midfielder then i want and i think that standard should be whole package. Midfielder with flawless technique. And McT doesn't have potential to become that. He lacks creativity and technique in general. And i don't like it. When we sit back he is good but with him we can't dominate in possession and he will not provide some killer ball or some great assist.
To sum it up. I like McT, i want him in this squad but only as cover option.
Does he stand out for Scotland as England is another level?. England midfield is deffo a weakness but McTom would most likely add to the disappointing England midfielders who cannot receive or play possession football or dominate opposition. England needs midfielder of a much higher quality.Wish he was playing for England, we could do with him at international level.