MEN banned from the press conference today | Some journalists banned for running articles without approaching United for comment first

He can win by benching Rashford on Wednesday and Saturday.
Then the press will say that ETH has lost the plot by dropping his star man who scored 30 goals for him just last season.
 
So British press should boycott us and refuse to put any news regarding us on their websites. They should stop coming to PL mandated press conferences. They should act as if we don't exist.
If Sancho (hypothetically) comes to Luckhurst and says I have a spicy inside news about United, Luckhurst should ask Sancho to do one.
If Sancho refuses to have his name put as the source then yes Luckhurst should wave him away.
It's well known that " a source" means we made this up over our breakfast pint because the editor wanted news on a no news day.
 
Then the press will say that ETH has lost the plot by dropping his star man who scored 30 goals for him just last season.
i think the press are turning on Rashford now, or at least wont defend the undefensable
 
He can win by benching Rashford on Wednesday and Saturday.

I think he would in normal circumstances, right now the media would use it to invent a conflict between him and Rashford, that's why I think he will hesitate before benching him (which he 100% should).
 
Definitely not. I also don't like when manager's just ban journalists, but this isn't their core business and I would never say one should be sacked (or not) based on such things. Nonetheless I like it much more when a manager gives a shit journalist a proper hairdryer treatment (which SAF also did). It achieves essentially the same thing but looks less insecure when you look your enemy in the eye.
I doubt this has much to do with the manager, who’s never appeared particularly bothered by vexatious questioning in press conferences.
 
Be real though, no they won’t.

Rashford has made the fans too angry for his pals in the media to win with that narrative.

same as how no one in the media dared question fan sentiment for getting rid of Sancho
The last time Rashford was as useless as now he got his pals to put out statements that his poor form was due to him not playing on left wing and cutting on his favorite right foot. All the while ignoring he was poor even when he was playing on the left wing. I'd imagine he will get similar statements out this time around as well. Blaming everyone else except himself.

But I agree with your point that he has made fans way too angry for anyone to believe that bullshit any longer.
 
Then the press will say that ETH has lost the plot by dropping his star man who scored 30 goals for him just last season.
Last season’s last season. I think most fans look at this season and think he’s been average to poor. Most journalists think that too

I don’t care who plays, just that United win.

If Ten Hag picks poor players in awful form, JUST to avoid possible press headlines, then he isn’t the manager we (or any club really) want.

Should just quietly say to Rashford “form hasn’t been great, you’re sub but door open”.
 
This is incredibly naive of United. Fergie could go apocalyptic at the press because the British press needed United more than United needed them. That is sadly no longer true. The press control the narrative. A more saavy institution would understand this. I've been hammering about this for years in the refereeing/VAR thread. If you think that Klopp's reaction to decisions - in the press - do not influence matches, you're wrong.
The press is incredibly hostile towards Manchester United both because we have an antagonistic past with them AND negative press generates huge clicks for them. That's never going to change, and with the likes of Lineker, Neville etc taking money from the Middle East, it likely never will.

So we can't play nice with them. I'd go full throttle siege mentality at this point if I was Ten Hag. Everyone clearly still hates our club. That's fine - use it. We can't buy our friends like City. Better to use it all as fuel to motivate our players.

David Moyes had and has a great relationship with the press. Look where it got him.
 
Facts they can verify. People's opinions and feelings, not so much.

If a report says the club staff believe Rashford is struggling with mental health issues (as was reported last week) and the club staff says its not true, then of course the club can verify it.
 
Last season’s last season. I think most fans look at this season and think he’s been average to poor. Most journalists think that too

I don’t care who plays, just that United win.

If Ten Hag picks poor players in awful form, JUST to avoid possible press headlines, then he isn’t the manager we (or any club really) want.

Should just quietly say to Rashford “form hasn’t been great, you’re sub but door open”.
I'm not supporting ETH's decision to keep playing Rashford. In fact I want him to be sold. It's just that, it is going to be the narrative from the press to further paint a picture of crisis at United.

I think ETH has shown he isn't afraid to take big decisions. If he got fecking Ronaldo out of our club, then he can surely drop Rashford to the bench. Maybe he put in a little too much faith in Rashford rediscovering his last seasons form and is the reason why he continues to play him.
 
If you don't understand that the media and football are incredibly intertwined, you don't understand the game. It's not just a sport anymore, it's about narrative, hype and above all entertainment - that's what pays the bills.

This is incredibly naive of United. Fergie could go apocalyptic at the press because the British press needed United more than United needed them. That is sadly no longer true. The press control the narrative. A more saavy institution would understand this. I've been hammering about this for years in the refereeing/VAR thread. If you think that Klopp's reaction to decisions - in the press - do not influence matches, you're wrong.

City basically buy the press. Beautiful receptison for them, lovely spreads at games, lots of pampering - and lo and behold, the press treat them accordingly. By antagonising the press - especially right now - all we're going to do is increase the negativity, increase the pressure on ETH and increase the feeling of players that do read the news that it's beyond repair.

It's an own goal of the highest order - and fits right in with how we're run these days.

The British press are one of the most detestable groups on the face of the planet, but ignoring their impact is just stupid.

Totally disagree with this
 
Good. They’re all absolute jokers! Send them over to the blue shite or scousers! Can start spreading rumours around there club
 
If you don't understand that the media and football are incredibly intertwined, you don't understand the game. It's not just a sport anymore, it's about narrative, hype and above all entertainment - that's what pays the bills.

This is incredibly naive of United. Fergie could go apocalyptic at the press because the British press needed United more than United needed them. That is sadly no longer true. The press control the narrative. A more saavy institution would understand this. I've been hammering about this for years in the refereeing/VAR thread. If you think that Klopp's reaction to decisions - in the press - do not influence matches, you're wrong.

City basically buy the press. Beautiful receptison for them, lovely spreads at games, lots of pampering - and lo and behold, the press treat them accordingly. By antagonising the press - especially right now - all we're going to do is increase the negativity, increase the pressure on ETH and increase the feeling of players that do read the news that it's beyond repair.

It's an own goal of the highest order - and fits right in with how we're run these days.

The British press are one of the most detestable groups on the face of the planet, but ignoring their impact is just stupid.

Agreed.

City are quite literally trying to buy the press as Sheikh Mansour is bidding for the Telegraph!
 
Sounds as though they were just banned from today's press conference, if that's the case it's not really a big issue. Give the club the opportunity to respond which any decent journalist would do and it's no problem.

It's like when that Cotterill bloke from Sky was hounding Ten Hag when he took over and I think he was also banned. Don't be an arse and you won't create an issue.
 
If a report says the club staff believe Rashford is struggling with mental health issues (as was reported last week) and the club staff says its not true, then of course the club can verify it.

Some of the staff may think that and deny it wheb the club asks, as the alternative would be like admitting they talked to the press.
 
Some of the staff may think that and deny it wheb the club asks, as the alternative would be like admitting they talked to the press.

If you can't verify your sources its not journalism
 
The club is a circus, now trying to censor media outlets by silencing them, it’s a complete shambles
 
It shouldn't be allowed. You can't ban journalists because you don't like their stories.
It isn't about not liking their stories, it's about journalists spreading gossip and destabilising the dressing room at a time that suits them getting their clicks and kicking the club when it's down. What does their clickbait nonsense serve to do other than try and sow more disharmony in the club. That Luckhurst guy is a complete cretin, always forcing something negative in his rag against us, should have banned him long ago.

This isn't to say every story from journalists should have forced positivity, but the way they are so eager to stick to the boot in when it suits them.. its no wonder the club is pissed. Do you see it about any other club?
 
If you don't understand that the media and football are incredibly intertwined, you don't understand the game. It's not just a sport anymore, it's about narrative, hype and above all entertainment - that's what pays the bills.

This is incredibly naive of United. Fergie could go apocalyptic at the press because the British press needed United more than United needed them. That is sadly no longer true. The press control the narrative. A more saavy institution would understand this. I've been hammering about this for years in the refereeing/VAR thread. If you think that Klopp's reaction to decisions - in the press - do not influence matches, you're wrong.

City basically buy the press. Beautiful receptison for them, lovely spreads at games, lots of pampering - and lo and behold, the press treat them accordingly. By antagonising the press - especially right now - all we're going to do is increase the negativity, increase the pressure on ETH and increase the feeling of players that do read the news that it's beyond repair.

It's an own goal of the highest order - and fits right in with how we're run these days.

The British press are one of the most detestable groups on the face of the planet, but ignoring their impact is just stupid.

City are buying the journo's with nice snacks and bevvies but the media absolutely needs United. Without our fanbase reading their shite their bottom line is going to suffer.
 
It isn't about not liking their stories, it's about journalists spreading gossip and destabilising the dressing room at a time that suits them getting their clicks and kicking the club when it's down. What does their clickbait nonsense serve to do other than try and sow more disharmony in the club. That Luckhurst guy is a complete cretin, always forcing something negative in his rag against us, should have banned him long ago.

This isn't to say every story from journalists should have forced positivity, but the way they are so eager to stick to the boot in when it suits them.. its no wonder the club is pissed. Do you see it about any other club?

I see where people are coming from on this, but a journalist's job is to find out what really going on - the things that people in positions of responsibility might rather you didn't know.

I'm not a UTD fan, but I suspect I'm far from the only one wondering recently, 'What the hell's going on with UTD? How are they playing so poorly, why is everyone out of form, and what's going on behind the scenes?' It seems to me that the papers in question have attempted to provide an answer to that, which is their job.

It's admirable to circle the wagons and I understand the frustration of fans given how toxic the dressing room has appeared to be over the last few years, but like when Ten Hag threw Sancho under the bus a while ago, it seems like a clumsy attempt to create a siege mentality that will probably backfire. More misdirection from a coach and boardroom who seem out of ideas.
 
At this rate ten hag will be banning any fans that boo at the ground, it's getting a tad silly now with all the falling out's with players and press.

lvg was the best with how he use to manage the press, some of his press conferences were legendary
 
they are correct though, why dont they kick the leaks out of the club

The issue is that they didn't offer United the right to reply, which United apparently tried. So they're deliberately running negative stories from "sources say" and "friends of [x]" without offering any comment from the club. The club will deal with the leaks privately behind closed doors (hopefully).

But the press are total cnuts when it comes to United - someone above has said that it's changed and United need the press more than they need United. That's total bollocks, we are by far the biggest generator of engagement (the only metric that matters online for any journalist in any field, sadly) - negative is infinitely more powerful than positive because it appeals to all fans rather than our sizeable own.

This is a great move from the club. Started with that prick interviewing Ten Hag last week and now this. Long may it continue.
 
But the press are total cnuts when it comes to United - someone above has said that it's changed and United need the press more than they need United. That's total bollocks, we are by far the biggest generator of engagement
The problem is that they obviously don't need to participate in press conferences to write stories, as they have sources inside the club (or at least convincingly claim so). Banning Luckhorst and others won't stop them from writing articles about United, so they won't have any less engagement by this decision.

On the contrary they have a field day now using this to shit on the club even more than before.
 
Doubling down on their story


"We have a responsibility to the readers who place such trust in us to faithfully report what we know and what we see," Manchester Evening News editor Sarah Lester writes
What they 'faithfully' report is pure fiction aimed at causing unrest and problems for the club, as it generates clicks for them.

They've gained their sources within the club for one sole reason, to paint a bad picture about the club.

I can't remember the last time they printed anything positive about the club, its always negative and Luckhurst is the main cheerleader who is also their senior writer on United matters. Maybe they should be the ones 'shooting the messenger', to help improve their relations with the club.
 
Basically the players hate Martial, they’re starting to hate Rashford, they think Amrabat, Antony, Hojlund, Mount and Weghorst are shit and don’t rate ETH or his tactics.
So the old guard don’t like the players EtH brought in. Makes it a short list of who is doing the shit-stirring.