Coz he knew he wasn't playin anyway. Hes gonna be doin to us what he did to those Toffee fans at Goodison.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
I don't know about that... Tevez spent a good year winding up SAF in the press, after he left for City. That's a whole different kind of cnut.
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Cheers Wayne. You've just given Fergie's team talk for the next seven months.
Never before have I wanted to see United win trophies in a season as much as I do right now.
I love the fact that Gill has reassured fans repeatedly that fergie has enough to splash the cash. And then we get a statement that Gill can't reassure Rooney. i mean what the hell! Just tell him.
I would love to have a questionnaire session with rooney or his agent now. I could rip into his statements.
I would love to have a questionnaire session with rooney or his agent now. I could rip into his statements.
Which page of the thread (or rough time) is Rooney's statement first posted on?
There's so much going on in the thread it could do with a contents page.
There's so much going on in the thread it could do with a contents page.
Careful. Any more emotion than that and you'll be quoted in Womens' Weekly tomorrow.
This.
I cannot believe that any self-respecting United fan is believing any of this.
What absolute bollocks. His reasons for leaving are money and money alone. Get him out of the club as soon as possible as far as I'm concerned. I didn't want him to play for United again but I'd quite like one home game now so everyone can let him know EXACTLY what they think of him!
I am staunchly anti the current ownership and I do believe that it is affecting our ability to compete, simply because, without the debt, we would have £50m more available per season than we currently have. But this excuse makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever, and it smacks of a self-serving attempt to excuse his own actions and motives.
Firstly, no other club in Europe apart from Barcelona has been more successful than we have over the last several years, and while you can certainly argue that the lack of investment will eventually lead to a decline (something which I would agree with), that hasn't clearly and unambiguously happened, as yet, and may never happen, at all. No matter how much money is being wasted on debt repayments — and it's a lot, particularly if you include all of the costs of that debt — we are still earning enough money to compete with almost all clubs in Europe, financially. I don't personally see that as an excuse for the debt, as some appear to, but that doesn't therefore mean that we can't compete, it just means that we could be in an even better position than we are currently if there was no debt.
So, no, I don't accept the excuse that we can't compete, because money is there if needed, and we have even attempted to buy players for tens of millions of pounds in the very recent past. Only if we fail to spend over the next few years will that excuse look more reasonable, in my opinion.
Even without the debt we couldn't compete with Man City or Real Madrid, but that's because one of them has a multi-billionaire as an owner, and the other is able to borrow vast amounts of money at almost no real cost and with very little risk. Neither club has won very much in recent history, so it's not as if anyone has much success to point to as evidence that the spending is effective.
Firstly, no other club in Europe apart from Barcelona has been more successful than we have over the last several years, and while you can certainly argue that the lack of investment will eventually lead to a decline (something which I would agree with), that hasn't clearly and unambiguously happened, as yet, and may never happen, at all. No matter how much money is being wasted on debt repayments — and it's a lot, particularly if you include all of the costs of that debt — we are still earning enough money to compete with almost all clubs in Europe, financially. I don't personally see that as an excuse for the debt, as some appear to, but that doesn't therefore mean that we can't compete, it just means that we could be in an even better position than we are currently if there was no debt.
So, no, I don't accept the excuse that we can't compete, because money is there if needed, and we have even attempted to buy players for tens of millions of pounds in the very recent past. Only if we fail to spend over the next few years will that excuse look more reasonable, in my opinion.
Even without the debt we couldn't compete with Man City or Real Madrid, but that's because one of them has a multi-billionaire as an owner, and the other is able to borrow vast amounts of money at almost no real cost and with very little risk. Neither club has won very much in recent history, so it's not as if anyone has much success to point to as evidence that the spending is effective.
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Playing Devil advocate.
1)United transfer dealing no matter what peoplea re saying have been curtailed due to the Glazers debt.
2) How long is SAF going to continue
3) We have not replaced Tevez or Ronaldo
4) Rooney shouldered so much of the responsibility last season and did he think he could do it again?
5) Ronaldo and Tevez have moved on and are earning more.
6) Staying United with uncertainty with the squad and manager - SAF, Gigs, VDS, Neville will most likley not be here in 2 years.
Add it all up and it seems Rooney has come to the conclusion that its best for him to leave now.
1)United transfer dealing no matter what peoplea re saying have been curtailed due to the Glazers debt.
2) How long is SAF going to continue
3) We have not replaced Tevez or Ronaldo
4) Rooney shouldered so much of the responsibility last season and did he think he could do it again?
5) Ronaldo and Tevez have moved on and are earning more.
6) Staying United with uncertainty with the squad and manager - SAF, Gigs, VDS, Neville will most likley not be here in 2 years.
Add it all up and it seems Rooney has come to the conclusion that its best for him to leave now.
No way. He's disrespected his teammates. He is out. And I'll carry his fat arse out of the club.
Like I said, he could have treated us better and if what he says is true (which contradicts with what Fergie said yesterday) that he asked for assurance that money will be invested into the squad, if Gill can't provide the assurance, then why would Rooney want to spend the peak of his career helping United rebuild when he could win trophies elsewhere?
Selfish, I know but understandable.
Why is he releasing this 3 hours before a CL game?
Basically because he wants to be hanging out with his mate Tevez by January 2nd.
Basically because he wants to be hanging out with his mate Tevez by January 2nd.
Can we like make a new thread with your post being the start of a constructive arguement because a lot of people on here seem to be talking with their hearts and missing the actual point!!
Obviously you have to take the statement with a pinch of salt.. He was great to drop the Fergie bit in there and obviously drop what everyone has been thinking when it comes to our team...
But believe me i'm sure that meeting with Gill took place and i'm quite concerned that maybe our project is about this new unknown investment in youth and if he wasn't attractive to Rooney maybe we should have a look at what is our club really doing for the future?
Rooney wants to go to Juventus - he'll never turn down an approach from an Old Lady.
Are you capable of thinking constructively? If so, now would be a good time.
Rooney wasn't going to come out and say "I want moar money lolz!!1!1!!!one!!".
If this is about future competitiveness why doesn't Rooney wait until we even seem like we can't compete at the top level? We're currently unbeaten in the Prem without him, given that's he's a gifted footballer it stands to reason that we'd be better with him.
As much as it pains me to say it, Torres is showing him how it's done right now. If anything, Torres has won a lot of my respect out of this.
Erm, you mean the money we get from selling him?
I vaguely remember that. It also ties in with what we've seen of his personality on the pitch, particularly during the Ronaldo years. He's not an "all eyes on me" character. Some might even go so far as to say he's a second-fiddle, albeit with first-violinist talent.
For what? Telling Rooney the truth?
Even if we have no money, Rooney is the bad guy here. Or one of them. In no way can he escape the blame.
Look at other players who have been in the same situation... Even foreign lads like Fabregas and Torres. Even they havent stooped to this ricidulous level to ensure they leave. They are acting fairly professionally while their moves are on hold - Rooney is going out of his way to make sure he doesnt need to play for us again.
He is to blame whether Gill has been lying to us or not.
absolutely. its just hogwash.
Errr, it's called having an agenda. Even before any ball was kicked this season, some fans already had a pre conceived notion that we're falling apart, not good enough etc. So obviously they'll hand on to Rooney's statements to reinforce their claims.
I am slowly beginning to hate Rooney.
I doubt Rooney would stay but if Fergie or United were desperate enough, if Fergie had funds for the summer, perhaps Rooney would stay?
I do believe that Rooney is issuing an ultimatum here. I won't sign unless.......
I do believe that Rooney is issuing an ultimatum here. I won't sign unless.......
Exactly.
All this talk of respect for the club and it's history is pure shite. We'll be seeing that soon enough.
It's a shame Must have gone down the agreeing with Rooney route. I think they'd done a lot more good to just thank Rooney, remind him that no one is bigger than Manchester United and we'll march forward, and we'll continue the fight.
What they've done (backed up with the ridiculous RK report) is basically become Stretford's puppets, and that's what a lot of our fans are doing.
Can't be arsed to quote your post Pogue because I've only been reading quotes of this and I cannot find it on any page, but it's brilliantly put and I cannot agree more. What Rooney's done is truly awful.
You need help.
You take it out of context.
When I say he's pulled a blinder I mean he's gone for the weakest part of Uniteds defence. As someone else put it. He's gone for the achilles heel.
This has feck all to do with the club, its got feck all to do with Fergie.
This is about a fat greedy scouse twat and a fecking lying twat who thinks everyone is stupid enough to believe every bit of crap he spouts about how the club can afford to compete and how we are not facing any difficulties.
THe person I feel sorry for is Fergie, because he stuck between the two of them.
feck Rooney off. No doubt. But also feck that lying two faced cnut off as well.
Well, good that we can put to bed the whole "let's support him to change his mind" argument. He should play for the club once more, to allow the fans to make their feelings clear. After that, he can go enjoy his money elsewhere. I'm beyond caring.
How good would it be if we won the league this season now?!
I wonder if Rooney consulted MUST regarding this statement........
On the plus side while I don't want us to panic buy it might force us to splash the cash a little and bring in a few players to prove what Rooney said is bullshit.
You don't show 'having respect' by announcing this shit 2 months into the season, or 2 hours before a CL game
feck off, if he's trying to hold the club to ransom, then he can feck right off to wherever he wants. He's been here long enough to know that we have blind faith in Fergie and we know he'll never let the club be in a position where we cant compete for top honours.
'Slowly beginning'?
I don't think I hate any other player in football, past of present, more. Stevie Me, Carragher, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Stan Collymore, Fowler... all of them are better than Rooney. All of them. Rooney is the lowest of the low.
he doesn't care about the club at all
Just for laughs :
Wayne Rooney and Sir Alex Ferguson have changed their Facebook status from "In a relationship" to "It's complicated".
Odds on Wayne Rooney's next club have been shortened. It's now 8/11 Stringfellows, 3/1 Spearmint Rhino.
After what Rooney's agent has been up to, the Stretford End might have to be renamed soon...
John W Henry has bought Rooney for Liverpool. When he told his manager, "Wayne is on the way", Roy Hodgson immediately put up his umbrella.
Shrek 5 plotline revealed: Lord Farquaad "shocked and disappointed" as Ogre reveals plans to quit Far Far Away.
Ferguson said: "Rooney intimated to me, in his own way, he wanted to leave." Which means he pointed at himself, then the door, then grunted.
The sale of Wayne Rooney couldn't have been better timed, as there's apparently an awful lot of interest in America... going on the debt.
Rooney is planning a move to Real after mishearing that Madrid was "full of lovely Senior Ritas".
"Nice to see your home fans booing you"... You haven't seen anything yet, Wayne.
Rooney was sad to hear of Tom Bosley from Happy Days' death but glad Mrs Cunningham is back on the market.
Wayne Rooney and Sir Alex Ferguson have changed their Facebook status from "In a relationship" to "It's complicated".
Odds on Wayne Rooney's next club have been shortened. It's now 8/11 Stringfellows, 3/1 Spearmint Rhino.
After what Rooney's agent has been up to, the Stretford End might have to be renamed soon...
John W Henry has bought Rooney for Liverpool. When he told his manager, "Wayne is on the way", Roy Hodgson immediately put up his umbrella.
Shrek 5 plotline revealed: Lord Farquaad "shocked and disappointed" as Ogre reveals plans to quit Far Far Away.
Ferguson said: "Rooney intimated to me, in his own way, he wanted to leave." Which means he pointed at himself, then the door, then grunted.
The sale of Wayne Rooney couldn't have been better timed, as there's apparently an awful lot of interest in America... going on the debt.
Rooney is planning a move to Real after mishearing that Madrid was "full of lovely Senior Ritas".
"Nice to see your home fans booing you"... You haven't seen anything yet, Wayne.
Rooney was sad to hear of Tom Bosley from Happy Days' death but glad Mrs Cunningham is back on the market.
It may have started as an ultimatum. But its gone way beyond that now. He's leaving.