Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Rado_N, Jan 20, 2015.
Icardi is just mediocre, that's why he wasn't in the team, he didn't even play for Inter.
That is completely not true at all. Why do you feel the need to lie?
They were literally chanting his name and for him to stay one day after the 2018 CL final.
Ramos and Ronaldo get along great as always. You have no clue what you're talking about. You're not spanish are you?
Going to be fun watching Ronaldo play next to mediocre Paolo Dybala and Higuain/Icardi next season while they don't even start for Argentina
Then they can go from incredible between August and May to mediocre in June and July. The opposite of Nelson Semedo.
No he only got into squad late last year in the friendlies because Messi wasn't in the squad, his form was fine in the first half of the season, at that time he was scoring big goals in the CL too.
ANd how’s he doing with inter now? He’s banned from the team.
If Messi was the reason for it then he was right.
Dude are you kidding me? Their relationship absolutely soured by the end of 2018 CL run. There was tension in that celebration if you’d even want to call it that. Ramos was pissed at Ronaldo and if you look at Ronaldo’s post match interview it pissed off the rest of the team that Ronaldo was hinting at his departure.
The evidence was there, you’re being a blind homer
This the dybala that scored what was it 5 league goals playing with ronaldo last season ? Is that incredible from august to may.
No, they'll still want Ronaldo to win the treble next to him though. While arguing that Argentina are a one man team with Dybala not even even playing.
And Dybala was still very good last season btw, don't follow football through stats sheets. His role changed but he was still very good and one of the best Juve players.
You're talking so much out of your ass. Watch the Ramos interview on the subject right after it happened. In spanish to undertsand what he's saying in context.
Ramos disagreed and thought it was wrong. Relationship between them was always great though. Watch the celebrations in Madrid on the day after the final too.
It's simply not true in the slightest Ronaldo's been a problem in the dressing room at all, it's been the exact opposite.
I’m not saying he’s a dressing problem but he wasn’t a locker room angel. Ramos was annoyed Ronaldo made the post CL celebration about him instead of the team by hinting at his departure
Pele is an overrated player. 500 of his 1,281 goals were scored in friendlies mate. And yes he dominated brazil because he played in the most dominant team of the country(Santos).
You know Arthur Friedenreich? He is the GOAT brazilan player even the likes of Romario are better than Pele
During his early United days I’ve always felt some players are secretly pissed at him (for showboating and self-glorifying) but then, he always carried them and they always win trophies because of him, so what can they complain, once he left they are in trouble. And he also is great leader/motivator/character on the pitch, and a great guy outside the pitch, his teammates really likes/needs him.
For the dressing room part, they are only pissed (if there is any) because he is leaving them, not because he is playing with them, that’s a huge difference though.
Fair points man
Yeah, that was my original source. I cut it down to a single tour though because what I find most remarkable though was the playing every other day in different countries.
I know Pelé could score goals, he had nothing to prove there. Now, being able to play, travel, play, travel, play... perform and consistently score 24 goals, in 19 games, over 39 days while not getting anywhere near the protection players get today. It's insane.
They also prefer Romario to Ronaldo Fenómeno
Messi kept Tevez out as well. It's a known "thing" with Messi, ridiculous to argue otherwise.
BS, absolute bs:
No chance Romario is better than Pele. No Brazilians i ever met rated Friedenreich as a GOAT. Even in the pre-war era Leonidas was considered to be better than Friedenreich.
Maybe you didn't watch but Dybala was a better player when he didn't play along Ronaldo, bad example.
That’s just not true... his best games came in the first half of the season with both Ronaldo and Mandzukic, then Mandzukic got a bad injury and Juve’s season took a big turn for the worse. Along with Dybala’s and any sort of attacking football.
Anyway, that’s not the point.
The point is that you’ll be asking Ronaldo to win the treble next to Dybala and Icardi/Higuain while calling Argentina a one man team where Messi has to do everything by himself when Dybala, Icardi and Higuain aren’t even good enough to start for them.
Say that if argentina had a base even half as goodbas juves.
you never rest, do you?
You were the one that replied to me
Thankfully you don’t need a squad good enough to win the Champions League in order to win a Copa America
people forget but what a phenomenal player he was.
So he only scored 800 goals in official matches then. What a faker.
He was far far better player for Real Madrid then he has ever been at United, whether he dribbled more or not is besides the point.
That's debatable, his 08 season matches upto any season at Madrid imo.
To be honest I agree but what I mean is just the excitement factor. Everytime he was on the ball the whole place would explode he was unplayable all over the pitch.
07/08 ronaldo is the best version of Ronaldo for me.
Oh absolutely, I’d say the same about Wayne Rooney, but I think the more mature Rooney was essentially a better and more effective player.
Instead of comparing the two. This thread should be permanently closed. We should enjoy them and understand we won’t come across players like this for a long time. Enjoy watching both play for heavens sake. They are both in a league of their own.
Early Ronaldo at Madrid is his peak I think. It eclipses his United 07/08 a bit.
You are right, I don’t think there’s one without the other, they both pushed themselves competing against each other.
Although one is clearly the better player, one day even Ronaldo’s hardcore fans will admit.
Haha I see what you did there. I love Ronaldo and he will always be my hero for what he helped us achieve when he was at United. Much like any Barca fan would go for Messi. There has been seasons where Messi has been better and there has been seasons where Ronaldo has been better. Both very equal in terms of their respective rivalry with each other and that’s why I feel you can’t compare the two.
They won´t, sorry.
2013 year in RM was one of the greatest individual seasons of all time. Better than any season he had in Manchester in my opinion.
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