Alex99
Rehab's Pete Doherty
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Already said I won' reply to him any further?
And yet you did
Already said I won' reply to him any further?
The meeting with Erdogan is probably not Ozil's best decision but the treatment he got from DFB, media and some fans is a disgrace.
And reading this thread, are you guys seriously defending Trump here? In a thread about a Muslim immigrant football player being treated badly? Really?
And yet you did
Who did Lothar Matthaus met few days ago?
Uhm...no? Anyway.
I'm extremely aware of proxy strategies in general and in Syria especially. Way more than you are especially, since Iran, the Saudis and others do not exist for you and Russia seems to be a legitimate combatant in your opinion. So let's get that out of the way.
If replied to a similar post of yours and I do not think you are worth replying to any further. If you think that Baschar al-Assad is a credible source in any way, my actual opinion of you would get me banned here.
Dude... knock it off.Russia, Trump and former CIA head operatives are also not trustworthy right?
It's actually very relevant considering the overall context of this discussion which centers around the geopolitical strategy of proxy wars - which entails the aiding and funding of rebels to overthrow the functioning goverment.
Russia, Assad, Trump, former CIA operatives are all on record stating that the USA under the administation of Obama were aiding and supporting 'moderate rebels ' (ISIS, Al Aqaida etc). Were all these people blatantly lying??
No, it's not relevant at all. What is relevant is the context of Obama's speech. What he said before that little clip that you posted and afterwards. If you look at the words, it does not make sense at all to use "ISIL" where he did. Even if the US did train ISIL, it does not make sense to say it the way he did. It's obviously a blip and it's embarassing to use that as "evidence".
Yeah, because neither Russia, Assad, Trump nor CIA operatives have a history of lying... Anyway, the US probably did support moderate rebels. But your equation of those rebels with ISIS and Al Qaida is dishonest. Anyway, this is going way off topic. I was reacting to your embarassing little video. If you can't see how embarassing and dishonest it is to use this video as "evidence", then I can't help you. I won't waste any more time with this BS.
It would be best for the thread if nobody did.I won't waste any more time with this BS.
No, it's not relevant at all. What is relevant is the context of Obama's speech. What he said before that little clip that you posted and afterwards. If you look at the words, it does not make sense at all to use "ISIL" where he did. Even if the US did train ISIL, it does not make sense to say it the way he did. It's obviously a blip and it's embarassing to use that as "evidence".
Yeah, because neither Russia, Assad, Trump nor CIA operatives have a history of lying... Anyway, the US probably did support moderate rebels. But your equation of those rebels with ISIS and Al Qaida is dishonest. Anyway, this is going way off topic. I was reacting to your embarassing little video. If you can't see how embarassing and dishonest it is to use this video as "evidence", then I can't help you. I won't waste any more time with this BS.
Edit: Sorry, did not see Big-Red's post when quoting. Anyway, I am done here.
That's as pathetic and ignorant a comment as Özil's in his Tweet where he says that "My job is as a football player, not as a politician, and a meeting was not an endorsement of any policies. In fact, we spoke about the same topic that we do every time we have met - football".
He can't be so ignorant and foolish as to not realise what kind of a message it sends out to the world when someone of his fame and profile meets Erdogan so warmly for a public press opportunity shortly before the Turkish elections?!
If, hypothetically, someone like Theresa May, Boris Johnson, or Rees-Mogg, (or, somehow, Erdogan) wanted me to meet them for a session of shaking hands and grinning like a moron with them in front of the press I'd tell those vermin to get stuffed. Either that, or I'd use the opportunity of being invited to meet them to heavily criticise them and tell them what for.
If, for the sake of argument, David Beckham was half Zimbabwean and had photos taken with Robert Mugabe there would have been a fecking shitstorm - and rightly so.
Not that I'm aware of
Müller actually has put in good performances for club and country before this tournament. It's really, really simple. People can shove their "key pass" statistics up their ass, it doesn't change the fact that Özil has been MIA for a few years.
He wasn't, he was constantly targeted as the main culprit (Basler, Hoeneß), while the disgraceful performances of Bayern players, mostly Müller, were barely mentioned. That's not a coincidence.Where have I talked about this WC? Everyone was shit there, just some a little less so and Özil was widely acknowledged to belong to the latter group. But three games doesn't mean we can ignore the 30+ before that.
Flat out saying Özil isn't good enough to play for die Mannschaft is quite frankly ridiculous, it's one thing to are with tactical context, but aside from that Özil's passing obviously adds a lot to the team and if it wasn't for terrible finishing by others he would have set up one or more goals vs South Korea at the WC.
For all his failures, Trump is no Erdogan.
Yes, fair enough. This is not the forum to educate people on the reality in regards to the geopolitical state of affairs.
Your language use is important as is his, and in fact the distinction explains his point perfectly. He sees it as double, you see it as two halves.
He wasn't, he was constantly targeted as the main culprit (Basler, Hoeneß), while the disgraceful performances of Bayern players, mostly Müller, were barely mentioned. That's not a coincidence.
So you already acknowledged Ozil was better than Ozil in Russia. What about Muller‘s shithouse of a Euros in 2016? What about his 16/17 season? What about his performances in the CL KO stages in the last few years? He declined so rapidly, whereas Ozil declined a bit as well, but still plays at a much higher base level and creates chances, even when things aren‘t working.
Ozil probably isn't the sharpest tool in the shed but the criticism has been over the top. Germany need to build for the next world cup anyways and I don't think he'll have been there.
A connection to a country is not a statistic.What distinction? What is 1 as a percentage of 2?
50%, i.e. half.
On what imaginary higher level is Özil playing?
Half-German sounds like or implies that he is only half as German as his team-mates. He just considers himself German, without having to express it in percentages. It isn't that difficult to grasp.What distinction? What is 1 as a percentage of 2?
50%, i.e. half.
For all his failures, Trump is no Erdogan. Not to mention that a similar photo by any other member of the NT in a maga hat alongside Trump would have resulted in the very same reaction by the public.
feel sorry that he has been left out to dry by the German FA. He was a footballer having his picture taken next to a visiting politician. Erdogan may well be an odious Creep but this was a simple act of a celebrity meeting a politician, not a stage managed show of support, agreed by his football association.....like maybe this one?
Just what I heard from German posters around the time the pics emerged.Is he thick? I don't think I've ever heard him interviewed. How does one determine the thickyness of players beyond TV interviews anyway?
It's not just Basler, this article is giving quite a good summary of the reactions:Yeah, Basler, who got ridiculed for his comments afterwards. Surely an example of German media reaction.
Erdogan and the AKP were lauded for years in the West as they were seen as a model of Islamist democracy which could potentially provide solutions to the dysfunctional politics of the wider Islamic world. It was the Gezi Park protests in 2013 which really brought this to an end, and then the Turkish facilitation of the growth of ISIS in northern Syria which consolidated the new view of Erdogan. The post-coup ‘coup’ only confirmed this new image of Erdogan as dictator.
Erdogan is not at this point a dictator in the classic 20th century mould. But that’s more due to the restrictions the reality of the Turkish political system has placed on him than any democratic inclinations he holds. He has been implementing a long-term plan for years to subjugate all independent bodies of authority - whether the media, the military or the judiciary - under his personal control. But these institutions have very long histories of robust independence which means Erdogan has had to move extremely cautiously and slowly - he has the perfect example of what can happen when you try to implement this process too quickly in the fate of Morsi in Egypt.
I suspected racism when Leroy Sane wasn't selected. German FA has had an absolute shocker here.
You think Low is a racist? Cause he is the one selecting the squad. Not Bierhoff, Grindel or any of the other DFB feckers.
Since there is no evidence whatsoever for your claim, please back it up or stop sprouting bullshit.
There are many reasons to criticize Low, but racism is certainly not one of them, just because he didn‘t nominate your flavour of the month.