Blows my mind that anyone from an ethnic minority background would choose to support them.
Millwall fans is racist scum shocker
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Its ok, they are going to help with the "alleged" racism.
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Yes, yes some of them would.
Have to say they haven’t really done anything though. Whenever I’ve been on the stands, it’s still there and I’ve not heard of many being banned.
It’s strange as Bermondsey is pretty diverse, I used to work in the schools round there 10 years ago and it didn’t seem like the place Robinson would get any joy. I also played in a charity tournament at the den and the local “young lions” team put out by millwall didn’t have a single white guy playing. I’m struggling to see where it comes from - considering the area.
Their racist chants aren't even intelligent. Did it not occur to them that one is a region and one is a country of origin? Also I find the work paki being censored hilarious as an asian british. That's a normal word to most of us and someone using it as an insult doesn't make all that much sense (its just a way to shorten pakistani, it's not an insult in many people's view). It's a bit like the latin word 'negro', it's either a neutral term or a term of endearment, it's not an insult unless its worded very specifically.
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Feel bad for kids like that. Literally a product of their surroundings, never had a chance.
Poor kid, hope he grows up normal, doubt it, with those kind of people around him.
That is f*cking wrong on so many levels.
Look at that fecking witch sitting next to him. That kid is doomed.
Anyone in the UK got the number for social services?
Jesus christ, its bad enough but then that last second.
What delightful family that poor lad has.
Has this even been on the news? (The stand chanting, not the poor kid)
The power of words always depends on the context in which they are being used. Your suggestion that most people find the use of the word "paki" is, in my opinion, a dangerously naive viewpoint as well. I would suggest you do not go around calling strangers "paki".
I do not believe at all that it is strange nor surprising. On the contrary, the diversity makes it all the more obvious. A minority of people will blame people of colour and/or migrants for some or all the issues they face, such as unemployment. This was used, in part, during the Brexit debates.
I can't see anything mentioned about it on the BBC sports homepage website and I don't expect it to either. The best case scenario would be for Millwall to be banned from the cup and for Everton to go through by default, however they won't even receive a fine.
BBC reported the chanting in an article about the violence outside the stadium.
Sadly, it's not really news.
From my experience, the P word is probably the second most taboo slur in the UK after the N word.
Maybe things have changed now or there could be regional differences as mentioned above.
I don't know about racist but it's definitely not a good idea to generalise an entire nation like that.
They are in 2019 like we are right?
Everything alright at home? 
Ah, hidden away. I'm sure the article headlined, "Six TV shows fans would love to see brought back", is far more important in the view of the BBC to show its readers because it makes front page news.
Loads of working class men fighting eachother over another load of blokes who get paid millions to kick a ball around a pitch. You have to laugh really.
Sweet lord!!
It looks like this happened in 2016.
Who said most people? I said most people that are Asian British. I find it ridiculously condescending to call my view point naive when it's a first hand account of how the word is perceived. Your suggestion of not calling strangers 'paki' is also ludicrous, why would I go up to a stranger and call them a slang term? You know this is pretty standard for minorities to have words of endearment for each other that are exclusive to them right? If I called a stranger on the street a 'paki' they'd be extremely confused since I'm a stranger and also most likely come from the same place as them.
Furthermore, the word c*nt is extremely offensive in many parts of the USA, while used in every other sentence in Australia. Shocker, that different groups of people use words differently.
I find it weird how grown men take so much pride in being "hard" and act like pricks to prove it. It's like their whole fan base is made up of 11 year olds.
You are still making a generalization that most British Asian people find the word inoffensive. I strongly beg to differ.
A lot of the Millwall fan base are spread across the South East, all the way through to Kent.
I mean, they even have divisions within their own group. Kent Millwall fans often end up fighting London Millwall fans, because they just want to scrap and cos there fecking thick.
Haha yeah, I grew up in the south east of London, on the border of Kent, so I am well aware of those fans - know quite a few too!
It's quite awkward to write a reply to this, as you've obviously lived stuff relating to this in a way I haven't.
But your post makes no sense to me.
The "chant" (while certainly not intelligent), isn't comparing a country to a place. It's not saying i'd rather go to Pakistan than Liverpool, it is very clearly targeting individuals, and with a word that most see as pretty offensive.
You then say the P word isn't offensive unless used in a specific way. These people ARE using it in that specific way, so of course they're going to9 censor it!
It's also not the same as the word Negro. It's the other N word that is the equivalent, and gets short shrift from most people who hear it.
Haha. I spent a lot of my youth in SE London and have family who support Millwall.
Bad enough teaching a kid the swears, although I expect a lot on this forum think that's acceptable.
But then that ending?! Oh my word, that kid is going to grow up a horrible piece of work.
That's always the type of area this starts up from! Throughout history you get some disenchanted group blaming their own sh!t lives on the easiest scapegoat.
You said it's either a neutral term, or a term of endearment!
Yet then say "well, why on earth would I say it to a stranger"
Well, I thought it was a term of endearment a second ago
Jeez, you must still be living in the Maggie Thatcher days as that is a load of nonsense! No one in the British Asian community would accept being called a “paki” no matter the way it is specifically worded as a joke or someone being serious. For you to say it’s not an insult to address someone from the British Asian community in that term is absolutely a load of utter garbage!
I’m British Asian myself and if someone called me a “paki”, I’d be extremely upset and hurt as it is simply a racist word to address someone that is Indian/Pakistani.
As Metropolitan Police training video's go, I reckon the officer has failed due to his - not wearing ones helmet in a community based
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It'd be pretty easy to identify a lot of people from that clip.
There's no way in hell they are banning them all for life though! They don't have unlimited fans!
Yes as for no reason they have singled out British Asians as the low of the low. Whereas we’re singing a song about a specific player. It’s as bad as using N**g*r as the skinheads in the 80s (and also post-9/11) targeted and abused British Asians with using the work ‘Paki’.
Also the fact that Paki is used against every brown person in UK. I’m Indian and have been called one various times.