I along with numerous members of the British public am about to begin a period of furlough [thankfully getting the 20% made up] should I feel ‘guilty’ being paid my wage because I’m unable to work due to an ‘act of god’?Hopefully he wasn’t asking he was telling. You’d hope a lot of them would feel guilty being paid hundreds of thousands of pounds each week for not playing football.
The simple answer to that is that footballers are easy targets because a lot of people already look down on them in the first place.Why focus just on football players? What about politicians hedge fund managers who are all still getting paid? There are many more wealthy people who work in the city than play Premier league football.
Players will have investment plans they won't be spunking their money every week. Its not that easy to donate 30% of their earnings. Some will donate to charity as well.
Do you really think he came out with this to the press without the agreement of all the players?I think a good captain would not apply any sort of public pressure. People are desperate for a good captain, just because his head is big doesn't mean he's actually a good one
I’m in the same position as you, and yeah I feel a bit guilty. I earn nowhere near what a footballer does, but if I did earn that much then yeah I would feel obliged to do something more to help. I’m not saying it should be mandatory, but if I was lucky enough to be born with well co-ordinated feet and rewarded handsomely for it, I’d probably try and help those less fortunate. Morally, it’s the right thing to do.I along with numerous members of the British public am about to begin a period of furlough [thankfully getting the 20% made up] should I feel ‘guilty’ being paid my wage because I’m unable to work due to an ‘act of god’?
Genuinely don’t get why they ‘should’ feel more obligation simply because they’ve worked there way into a fortunate position. They signed a contract for a set amount and will generally live to their means - a 30% wage cut on any figure is a huge ask; if a player refused they’d have every right to.
The ‘charitable‘ work they do for club and personal brands in general outstrips most of the general public - it shouldn’t be the responsibility of playing staff to make sure the club do the right thing & pay ALL staff.
It’s a great gesture but no one should be obligated.
I don’t get how so many fans can resent players for the wage they make yet feed the machine that pays them.
Read the reports. The players already agreed.I think a good captain would not apply any sort of public pressure. People are desperate for a good captain, just because his head is big doesn't mean he's actually a good one
Same mate I earn nowhere near what a footballer does but I do feel as has been covered in other posts on here that footballers are targeted for solutions they shouldn’t be.I’m in the same position as you, and yeah I feel a bit guilty. I earn nowhere near what a footballer does, but if I did earn that much then yeah I would feel obliged to do something more to help. I’m not saying it should be mandatory, but if I was lucky enough to be born with well co-ordinated feet and rewarded handsomely for it, I’d probably try and help those less fortunate. Morally, it’s the right thing to do.
Why not?Sky TV have got a nerve reporting these stories - they need to issue some refunds because a summer fixture list is no good to me
Got better things to doWhy not?
I'd suggest a more compelling story when you actually speak to Sky!Got better things to do
Souness said Pogba should give up 60% of his salaryConsidering how much our squad are overpaid I'd hope it would be at least 50%
Aww, did he say yes?It is reported that Ed proposed to Harry.
Yep, this is definitely beating everyone to the punch and setting the precedent of which all clubs must follow."Premier League clubs to consult players on 30% wage cut as resumption delayed"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52148955
I'm guessing United have seen this coming and have headed down a different path by talking with the players.
Aww, did he say yes?
That's a bit harsh.A lot of players could rightly tell him to feck off, they already do a ton for charity and they are not interested in being part of this publicity stunt.
In a time like this I think it's fair for them to want to do more than their usual charity work, and I believe most of them will be in a position to do so. Nothing wrong with a bit of social pressure/prodding here. Make all the others want to do it or at least not want to look bad.A lot of players could rightly tell him to feck off, they already do a ton for charity and they are not interested in being part of this publicity stunt.
Really have to be one life's negative drones to do so.Imagine Manchester United fans, or any football fans, trying to put negative spin on this.
A part of me thinks that this is a move by United to force the other clubs to keep paying high wages despite the revenue conditions not being as "rosy" as United, to eliminate them from the transfer market for the next window.Tweet
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Really does rankle thinking about him earning that absurd wage, currently in full, while doing even less nothing than he has generally managed since joining us.Alexis should definitely participate in this.
This is Ed's fault imo. Can't see this sort of thing getting approved without his final endorsement.Really does rankle thinking about him earning that absurd wage, currently in full, while doing even less nothing than he has generally managed since joining us.
Very good post, sums it up nicely.The simple answer to that is that footballers are easy targets because a lot of people already look down on them in the first place.
They're public, "celebrity" figures in the way others aren't, the way they earn their money is seen as being frivolous (when it suits people to see it as frivolous, at least) and, crucially in a country with such glaring class divides, they're largely working class kids. All of which makes them undeserving of their wealth in a lot of people's eyes.
Whereas low-profile, privately educated people from the "right" background are much harder to give a kicking to, even if they actually earn and spend their money in a less ethical way than professional athletes. Because a lot of the people who think footballers don't deserve their wealth (or are happy to promote that sense through their positions in politics or the media) will somehow feel it's perfectly fine for these people to earn what they earn. Or have inherited, as the case may be.
Also, one of those two groups of people are more likely to curry influence with politicians than the other.
Those aren't morally good reasons to focus on footballers but they are the realistic ones.
Yeah, this is true. There are much richer entities than just the footballers who should be accountable right now. Everyone has a part to play but the billionaires who've actually profited from this situation should be under way more scrutiny.Agree- with politicians using footballers as a deflection tactic, it's fair enough that they 'want to be seen' to be doing something positive and making a meaningful donation, 30%, will at least make a difference.
Why players are being called out before Levy, Ashley etc is ridiculous. Cheap populism.
Thanks for linking that, great read. Bright bloke too - he may not know the terminology for the economic ideas he's discussing or whatever, but he nails it right down the essential issues straight away.Would highly recommend reading this interview with an anonymous Premier League footballer about this subject...
https://www.football365.com/news/feature-premier-league-player-wage-cut-matt-hancock
It’s a brilliant read. He thinks clubs should pay non-playing staff in full, whilst the Premier League should make all players and directors give up their entire salary for 3 months to donate it to the NHS etc.
Don’t know who he is given that he wishes to remain anonymous, but he sounds like a top man.
Should donate the whole lot of it.Alexis should definitely participate in this.
I'll go out on a limb and say he doesn't play for Spurs.Would highly recommend reading this interview with an anonymous Premier League footballer about this subject...
https://www.football365.com/news/feature-premier-league-player-wage-cut-matt-hancock
It’s a brilliant read. He thinks clubs should pay non-playing staff in full, whilst the Premier League should make all players and directors give up their entire salary for 3 months to donate it to the NHS etc.
Don’t know who he is given that he wishes to remain anonymous, but he sounds like a top man.
Great stuff. Footballers are rich, 30% is nothingWould highly recommend reading this interview with an anonymous Premier League footballer about this subject...
https://www.football365.com/news/feature-premier-league-player-wage-cut-matt-hancock
It’s a brilliant read. He thinks clubs should pay non-playing staff in full, whilst the Premier League should make all players and directors give up their entire salary for 3 months to donate it to the NHS etc.
Don’t know who he is given that he wishes to remain anonymous, but he sounds like a top man.
It is a shame to see. Didn't even make it one page without the negativity.Imagine Manchester United fans, or any football fans, trying to put negative spin on this.
There you go ..Imagine Manchester United fans, or any football fans, trying to put negative spin on this.
I think a good captain would not apply any sort of public pressure. People are desperate for a good captain, just because his head is big doesn't mean he's actually a good one
Great stuff. Footballers are rich, 30% is nothing
One of the biggest nobs C . Bellamey has and I think still does a load of charity work, if he can do it everyone can.You're right, it would surprise me. If that's the case, fair play to them. Maybe my thoughts about footballers and charities have been coloured by the embarrassing lack of uptake with previous attempts to publicly get them to donate to high profile causes. And the ubiquity of photographers when they visit a hospital for sick kids.