No, don't play until the following Friday(07/12) at home to MiddlesbroughI'm guessing that means we don't have a game this weekend. Are the u23s playing tomorrow night?
When Howson used to post on here he mentioned he was very highly rated, although obviously didn't want to go into too much detail due to his age.14!!!! Bloody hell. Last time I saw a video of him he was even smaller than Gomes. Perfect game for him to travel as well considering we've already qualified.
Probably the highest rated player to come through the academy in the past few years along with Gomes & Greenwood. He's already been offered a scholarship with a guaranteed pro deal at 17
That's awful news, hope the lad makes a full recovery.
Looks as though he's staying in Manchester for treatment so that should help, but nine months at that age must feel like a lifetime.That's awful news, hope the lad makes a full recovery.
That sucks, hope for a great recovery and hope he gets back to his best.
Let's hope he's as lucky as Tahith Chong who seemed to come back quicker and stronger after a similar injury.That sucks, hope for a great recovery and hope he gets back to his best.
Yeah, hope the best for the lad. Never nice hearing about such serious injuries to young players, but the Chong case does give me some confidence that he will be in good hands and will be back to his best.Let's hope he's as lucky as Tahith Chong who seemed to come back quicker and stronger after a similar injury.
It's remarkable what they can do now, 20 years ago his career would've been over before it had began.Yeah, hope the best for the lad. Never nice hearing about such serious injuries to young players, but the Chong case does give me some confidence that he will be in good hands and will be back to his best.
Pretty much, thankfully he should be making a full recovery if all goes well.It's remarkable what they can do now, 20 years ago his career would've been over before it had began.
I've done my ACL, it's not fun. Physically he'll be back to 100% considering his age and the treatment he'll receive but I hope he has a strong mentality.
Where have you heard that from ?What age group is the lad United have signed from Everton in?
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St Mirren appointed a new manager on the 7th of September. Willock started 4 League matches under the previous manager and 3 out of 14 since the change. I'm guessing both Willock and St Mirren were content with the loan coming to an early end. The wages St Mirren pay their players appear to be about £30K to £40K per season (United will have been paying most of Willock's wages) so probably not high up on his list for next season. There are a lot of Leagues across Europe that offer better salaries than that.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...t-Mirren-half-way-season-long-loan-spell.html
Strange, unless the club has already agreed a January sale with another club.
Why, i'd imagine that's the norm. The club(any club) would only let him run down his contract if there had been no interest in the player.St Mirren appointed a new manager on the 7th of September. Willock started 4 League matches under the previous manager and 3 out of 14 since the change. I'm guessing both Willock and St Mirren were content with the loan coming to an early end. The wages St Mirren pay their players appear to be about £30K to £40K per season (United will have been paying most of Willock's wages) so probably not high up on his list for next season. There are a lot of Leagues across Europe that offer better salaries than that.
I'm still bewildered that United offered Willock a 2 year deal when he was almost 21.
You don't spend 6½ years at Manchester United football club if you are as you put it complete shite, he might not be your cup of tea but....I hardly imagine offering 2 year contracts to 21 year olds who are complete shite is the norm.
And how many did Devonte Redmond spend, 15? He's sitting on his ass now without a club because he's a fecking shit footballer. So is Willock, so are countless others to play for our academy. We've signed Josh Doughty for Christ sakes who is even shit for Canadian standards.You don't spend 6½ years at Manchester United football club if you are as you put it complete shite, he might not be your cup of tea but....
You may know far more than me about the reality of loan deals, whether loan fees are involved, how much United end up subsidising wages, how much players like Willock get paid etc. My sense is that on average, this type of situation, a player with no first team experience and no Championship experience on loan by the time they turn 21, isn't likely to bring in much money when they eventually depart the club. There are some exceptions, United earned £1m from Ashley Fletcher's move to West Ham, largely due to his success on loan in League One. We also earned £500K for selling Sean Goss to QPR without any loan experience. But much of time, a player with a Willock type track-record, will eventually leave for free.Why, i'd imagine that's the norm. The club(any club) would only let him run down his contract if there had been no interest in the player.
The club indentify a very small number of exceptional talent in each age group, but these lads need a team to play in. Therefore the club need to bring in other good players for these lads to play with, the club know these lads will never be good enough, to top this up they will also take a number of punts on players who show promise. It’s unreasonable to expect every academy player to be good enough, it’s a team game, but they're looking for individuals.And how many did Devonte Redmond spend, 15? He's sitting on his ass now without a club because he's a fecking shit footballer. So is Willock, so are countless others to play for our academy. We've signed Josh Doughty for Christ sakes who is even shit for Canadian standards.
Has nothing to do with my cup of tea. Willock was a below average youth player who couldn't get a game in the Netherlands and been a shit squad player for bottom SPL clubs. He'll be lucky to make it in the football league because he's a footballer who outside of a decent touch does feck all on the pitch. He's shit and there was no reason to give him a new contract.
You don't offer contracts to every 20 year old who spent some time in a PL academy.
I fully agree, but it has nothing to do with what I've said. The point is it isn't the norm to offer these guys making up the numbers a two year contract when they are 21. They are a required necessity during their youth years but It makes no sense to be offering them contracts until they are 23 when they are as shit as the likes of Willock and have zero chance of fetching a meaningful transfer fee if one at all. Nor did he suffer from major injuries that we were helping him recover from.The club indentify a very small number of exceptional talent in each age group, but these lads need a team to play in. Therefore the club need to bring in other good players for these lads to play with, the club know these lads will never be good enough, to top this up they will also take a number of punts on players who show promise. It’s unreasonable to expect every academy player to be good enough, it’s a team game, but they're looking for individuals.
Joe Rothwell was released aged 21 years 6 months. He joined Oxford in League One. He had a couple of loan spells before leaving.Why, i'd imagine that's the norm. The club(any club) would only let him run down his contract if there had been no interest in the player.