Peyroteo
Professional Ronaldo PR Guy
Both Varane and Modric haven't even been in the 3 best Real Madrid players in 2018, nevermind the whole world.
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They had great World Cups which takes priority. That is the way it has always been until recently.Both Varane and Modric haven't even been in the 3 best Real Madrid players in 2018, nevermind the whole world.
I remember Shevchenko winning it in 2004 over Deco too. Why was that then? Portugal got to the Euros final, Porto won the CL and Deco had a clearly better year than the one Modric, Mbappe or Varane just had... Shevchenko didn't get to any final and he won it.They had great World Cups which takes priority. That is the way it has always been until recently.
Ronaldo de Lima won it in 2002 despite not even playing 10 games or less in the previous season if I remeber correctly. He won it. Cannavaro won it over a Ronaldinho who was instrumental in Barcelona's league and Champions League Campaign and then was subpar for Real Madrid the season after the World Cup.I remember Shevchenko winning it in 2004 over Deco too. Why was that then? Portugal got to the Euros final and Porto won the CL... Shevchenko got to neither and he won it.
Did Varane have a better World Cup than Ronaldo btw? Really? Ronaldo won't win it because he was born in the wrong country then, if getting to the WC final was a requirement he was out of it before the year even began and you need to be born in a big footballing country or have the kindest draw in WC history to be able to win it...
WC should take priority, but it's not the only thing that matters. If that's the top 3, they're giving such a huge importance to the WC that Messi shouldn't have even made the top 23 then. If Mbappe is finishing above Messi and Ronaldo, why aren't Rakitic, Mandzukic, Griezmann, Kante, Lloris, Pavard, etc. too?
Why should it though? The world cup is overrated.The World Cup always takes priority as it should. The only time this stopped is when the award combined with the FIFA's World player of the year award.
Well historically, especially when I was younger, it was the only chance everyone had to watch all the best players. Back then you coulnd't justy on the internet and swuicth on tv's to watch games. You mostly got a view of players shaped on ournalitst writings and ratings and local journalists influcne back then was very big as they could shape the perception of footballers.Why should it though? The World Cup is overrated.
That's very well put, but it isn't 1970 anymore, and upholding a tradition just for its own sake makes very little sense. Also there is an argument to be made that in those days WC actually was a pinnacle when it comes to quality of football, which it very certainly isn't now, at least not in my opinion.Well historically, especially when I was younger, it was the only chance everyone had to watch all the best players. Back then you coulnd't justy on the internet and swuicth on tv's to watch games. You mostly got a view of players shaped on ournalitst writings and ratings and local journalists influcne back then was very big as they could shape the perception of footballers.
That tradition carried on but was weakened over the last decade but it looks like the journalists who vote for the award have returned back to the old ways.
Poor Ronaldo, maybe he shouldn't have left Real Madrid?The most undeserving winner i can remember.
I honestly think that hes only getting it because they dont want Cristiano overtaking Messi to make it 6-5 and because he left Real.
Who are they? The same ones who are behind Kennedy murder, 9/11, mkultra, etc?The most undeserving winner i can remember.
I honestly think that hes only getting it because they dont want Cristiano overtaking Messi to make it 6-5 and because he left Real.
You forgot the European Super Cup.Griezmann has a point to say. EL , 2nd in La Liga and a World Champion .
EL and CDR barely count, ESC and SSC are simply irrelevant.You forgot the European Super Cup.
Well it depends how you view it. The quality of Club fotball is obvioulsy much better now especially seeing as most of the National Team players play in foreign leagues and different leagues whereas back then for example in Netherlands, the bulk of our teams where made up of the best Ajax and Feyenoord players.That's very well put, but it isn't 1970 anymore, and upholding a tradition just for its own sake makes very little sense. Also there is an argument to be made that in those days WC actually was a pinnacle when it comes to quality of football, which it very certainly isn't now, at least not in my opinion.
Poor Ronaldo, maybe he shouldn't have left Real Madrid?
It's not very important but better than nothing. They defeated Real Madrid, not a weak opponent.EL and CDR barely count, ESC and SSC are simply irrelevant.
Anyone is free to regard the WC whichever way they like, and I agree that a majority probably feels that way. It's just that the reasons behind that prestige are practically gone, as far as I'm concerned. Only reason I actually watch it nowadays is that there's nothing else to watch during the summer. Honestly, if someone abolished international football completely tomorrow, I'd hardly bat an eyelid.Well it depends how you view it. The quality of Club fotball is obvioulsy much better now especially seeing as most of the National Team players play in foreign leagues and different leagues whereas back then for example in Netherlands, the bulk of our teams where made up of the best Ajax and Feyenoord players.
The World Cup is still seen by many as the most prestigous footballing compettion in the world. It's a tournament that comes about every four years so any player that can make a big impact in it is basically immortalised. Iniest/Xavi should have won it in 2010 as well and maybe Neuer in 2014.
It's the same thing as a player winning it for doing well in the Champions League. If a player does well in 6 games in the Champions League, it is prioritised over another player doing well over 30+ games. That's just the way it is.
Why?Anyone is free to regard the WC whichever way they like, and I agree that a majority probably feels that way. It's just that the reasons behind that prestige are practically gone, as far as I'm concerned. Only reason I actually watch it nowadays is that there's nothing else to watch during the summer. Honestly, if someone abolished international football completely tomorrow, I'd hardly bat an eyelid.
Who are they? The same ones who are behind Kennedy murder, 9/11, mkultra, etc?
I think you could be onto something here...
The World Cup should take priority when concerning the Golden Ball for best player at the World Cup. There's no way Modric was the best player in the world over 2018. Varane second is also laughable. Real Madrid's defence has been terrible all year domestically.The World Cup always takes priority as it should. The only time this stopped is when the award combined with the FIFA's World player of the year award.
I guess that's a good question. It probably boils down to what one expects to gain by watching games/following football. The older I get, the less tolerance I seem to have for low standard of play, unless of course it's my own team I support.Why?
Fair enough.I guess that's a good question. It probably boils down to what one expects to gain by watching games/following football. The older I get, the less tolerance I seem to have for low standard of play, unless of course it's my own team I support.
At this point, international football to me at least, feels distinctly second rate in every way to be honest.
Why? It's obvious that the WC is the biggest and most important competition in the sport. World Cup games are the most important of the year. It's natural that performance in the world cup should be more important than at club level.The World Cup should take priority when concerning the Golden Ball for best player at the World Cup. There's no way Modric was the best player in the world over 2018. Varane second is also laughable. Real Madrid's defence has been terrible all year domestically.
More important, fair enough. But Modric and especially Varane were no where near good enough over the year to be named as the best two players of the year.Why? It's obvious that the WC is the biggest and most important competition in the sport. World Cup games are the most important of the year. It's natural that performance in the World Cup should be more important than at club level.
Now as for this specific case, meh. Anyone of Salah, Messi, Cristiano, Varane, Modric, Griezmann and Mbappé has a good case. Who cares who finishes 2nd or 3rd...
Majority of fans care about it more than anything else. It's just the nerdy hip ones on football boards and the internet in general who have tens of tables and stats open for every match and view the sport highly analytically that think that CL or leagues matter more.Fans might not care about the World Cup less but fans don't matter. The professionals care.
It's the biggest trophy, but it isn't the biggest display of quality. I think that's fair to say.Majority of fans care about it more than anything else. It's just the nerdy hip ones on football boards and the internet in general who have tens of tables and stats open for every match and view the sport highly analytically that think that CL or leagues matter more.
No footballer who has ever played the game would even once think of prioritising anything over a possibility of winning the WC. Ask Messi if he could trade his CL wins for that one WC win especially in Brazil and he'd do it in an instant. It's the biggest dream of every singly footballer to hold that trophy and there isn't a bigger honour or achievement than winning that. No amount of speccy posters on a forum can overturn what the absolute vast majority of fans and players agree on regarding what the most prestigious event in the sport of football is.
He was under par in the two most important tournaments of the season. Had he performed better I would give the prize to him. But he didn't.Shouldn't Messi win it? He was instrumental in Barca winning the double.