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What do you reckon was the reason the team had a relegation battle last year ? Squad too thin ?
A lot of change in the squad, a lack of readiness in the early part of the season, the disappointment of the semi final loss to Eintracht in the Europa Semi Final the year before and the condensed schedule due to the world cup meant there was never any time to regroup.

Also went through a spate of games early season where penalties were missed, posts were hit and some iffy decisions went against us.

It was always a case of just being patient. The team were in top half form in the final nineteen games and won the Conference.
 

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A lot of change in the squad, a lack of readiness in the early part of the season, the disappointment of the semi final loss to Eintracht in the Europa Semi Final the year before and the condensed schedule due to the world cup meant there was never any time to regroup.

Also went through a spate of games early season where penalties were missed, posts were hit and some iffy decisions went against us.

It was always a case of just being patient. The team were in top half form in the final nineteen games and won the Conference.
Keep forgetting that both the World Cup and the national moratorium on football made last season's calendar a little unique. Thanks.
 

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Well we do have magnificent Antony who will tear the league apart so no worries.
 

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how the hell did we end up with #21 at that price point and other clubs get this for half the price:

 

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I would've loved the opportunity to ruin his career here.
 

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how the hell did we end up with #21 at that price point and other clubs get this for half the price:

He was literally there for the taking all summer. He only ended up West Ham because Brighton wouldn't budge on inserting a release clause, Chelsea chose Palmer and I guess United chose Mount.
 

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how the hell did we end up with #21 at that price point and other clubs get this for half the price:

Missing out on players of this profile wouldn't be so bad if we had a single player at 1st level with equivalent capability...... :(
 

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Missing out on players of this profile wouldn't be so bad if we had a single player at 1st level with equivalent capability...... :(
I'm heated man. not a single press resistant player in the team. 23 years old and the guy was right there. wtf

look at that ball retention and take-ons. absurd
 

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I'm heated man. not a single press resistant player in the team. 23 years old and the guy was right there. wtf

look at that ball retention and take-ons. absurd
The very first clip in the vid made me sigh. :lol: :(

Then thoughts turn to: who can actually do any of that for us?

The ideal is to have a 3 or 4 players who can do work with ease in tight spaces and turn out with the ball in open space... we don't have a single one. That's a really bad look for us.
 

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how the hell did we end up with #21 at that price point and other clubs get this for half the price:

Think we're all asking ourselves similar. Why did we think Havertz was the purchase to make over this guy? He can play all the positions that Kai can, only with a lot more dynamism.
 

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I'm heated man. not a single press resistant player in the team. 23 years old and the guy was right there. wtf

look at that ball retention and take-ons. absurd
I miss the lad at Ajax real bad.
 

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If its any consolation, I'm certain he would have turned to shite overnight here.
 

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He was literally there for the taking all summer. He only ended up West Ham because Brighton wouldn't budge on inserting a release clause, Chelsea chose Palmer and I guess United chose Mount.
Whats his release clause at West Ham?
 

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He was literally there for the taking all summer. He only ended up West Ham because Brighton wouldn't budge on inserting a release clause, Chelsea chose Palmer and I guess United chose Mount.
What depressing sentence to read as a United fan.
 

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He has a release clause right, thats why the Brighton deal fell through.
 

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This is what I cling on to.
I truly believe that to be true. Antony was never worth 100 million euro but if I look at him as an Ajax supporter I can hardly believe where he's at right now. Even United fans should agree that if you compare him to when he first joined something went terribly wrong.
 

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ugghhh....so frustrating that we didn't purchase him

would enjoy going back thru the kudus thread and how many people were saying we didn't need him and he didn't have a proper position which made him surplus to requirements

instead we end up with Mount and Antony who both BLOW
 

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ugghhh....so frustrating that we didn't purchase him

would enjoy going back thru the kudus thread and how many people were saying we didn't need him and he didn't have a proper position which made him surplus to requirements

instead we end up with Mount and Antony who both BLOW
Have you even watched Kudus play or did you just see his 4 minutes compilation? :lol:
 

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Think we're all asking ourselves similar. Why did we think Havertz was the purchase to make over this guy? He can play all the positions that Kai can, only with a lot more dynamism.
Yep, I was mad at the time - now I’m just baffled. It’s a serious head scratcher. Especially as he can play a position Havertz can’t really (RW) that we have specialist cover for. And more than £20m cheaper.
 

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If its any consolation, I'm certain he would have turned to shite overnight here.
And if it is even more consolation, If we had signed him people would be moaning about him going to the Africa cup. Atleast now they are saved from that annoyance and potential depression.
 

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how the hell did we end up with #21 at that price point and other clubs get this for half the price:

Crap, I knew he was doing well but haven't watched that many West Ham games. This kud us looking quite good.
 

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ugghhh....so frustrating that we didn't purchase him

would enjoy going back thru the kudus thread and how many people were saying we didn't need him and he didn't have a proper position which made him surplus to requirements

instead we end up with Mount and Antony who both BLOW
I was begging us to sign him. Was such obvious good value for his price even if he didn’t hit the ground running immediately.
 

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And if it is even more consolation, If we had signed him people would be moaning about him going to the Africa cup. Atleast now they are saved from that annoyance and potential depression.
Really dodged a bullet here when you think about it ey..
 

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He’s excellent. Was playing at a very high level in the CL last season, was class in the World Cup too. This is what happens in football with players from African nations in my opinion. If he were from a more traditional footballing nation I think he’d have had higher stock value and wouldn’t have gone to West Ham.

He’s better than Mount, Antony and Bruno for me and was cheaper than all three too.
 

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Missing out on players of this profile wouldn't be so bad if we had a single player at 1st level with equivalent capability...... :(
Someone created a thread about a similar topic. The number one issue for this team is the lack of technique and dribbling abilities. It may sound preposterous but even a player like Saint Maximin would totally change our team because right now United has zero dribbler and zero ball cleaner, by that I mean player that have the ability to receive a bad pass and turn it into a good one basically the likes of Carrick.
 

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how the hell did we end up with #21 at that price point and other clubs get this for half the price:

Damn I didn’t know he was this talented. We never sign these types though. Every time players with playmaking qualities, superb close control I.e those who would help control games and play possession footy better, it’s like we purposely look the other way. When Bernardo Silva (or Rodri) was touted to be available we never went full in for him like we did for Ronaldo / Maguire / Sanchez who were also wanted by City when it was so clear how brilliant a technical player he was. It’s happened time and time again over the past decade. We will sign the Bruno , Kagawa, Mihitaryan, VDB etc instead.

Maybe there’s pressure from the board to play counter attack / old school way.
 

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Someone created a thread about a similar topic. The number one issue for this team is the lack of technique and dribbling abilities. It may sound preposterous but even a player like Saint Maximin would totally change our team because right now United has zero dribbler and zero ball cleaner, by that I mean player that have the ability to receive a bad pass and turn it into a good one basically the likes of Carrick.
It's not preposterous at all; even Pep values it as one of the most important traits to have in a team, not only for the problem it presents the other team, but for your own side who get to think about the game more tactically, strategically and opportunistically. Of course Saint Maxim lets himself down with the intelligence quotient, but one of those types who actually releases the ball to a teammate in good time and rhythm, and you have a major asset.

Those kind of players can mask so much in their own team too by the way they alleviate pressure or prevent it from picking up a head of steam. Definitely a transformative asset.

We'd look a different side with a couple of guys who can do that reliably and consistently.
 

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It's not preposterous at all; even Pep values it as one of the most important traits to have in a team, not only for the problem it presents the other team, but for your own side who get to think about the game more tactically, strategically and opportunistically. Of course Saint Maxim lets himself down with the intelligence quotient, but one of those types who actually releases the ball to a teammate in good time and rhythm, and you have a major asset.

Those kind of players can mask so much in their own team too by the way they alleviate pressure or prevent it from picking up a head of steam. Definitely a transformative asset.

We'd look a different side with a couple of guys who can do that reliably and consistently.
Of course a more intelligent player would be great but the somewhat controversial point that I had in mind is that even the "dumb" version would transform our team. Simply because United is probably the worse team that I have in mind in that respect. Rashford can beat his man with speed but not really skill, Bruno can't beat anyone, our CMs can't do it either and Antony can do it but for some reason he will choose the safe option 9 out of 10 times.

That characteristic is why I absolutely love Coman, not only he is a hard worker but he is such an aggressive dribbler that he impacts the way opponents defend, you can't leave your fullback in a 1v1 with Coman.
 

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Of course a more intelligent player would be great but the somewhat controversial point that I had in mind is that even the "dumb" version would transform our team. Simply because United is probably the worse team that I have in mind in that respect. Rashford can beat his man with speed but not really skill, Bruno can't beat anyone, our CMs can't do it either and Antony can do it but for some reason he will choose the safe option 9 out of 10 times.

That characteristic is why I absolutely love Coman, not only he is a hard worker but he is such an aggressive dribbler that he impacts the way opponents defend, you can't leave your fullback in a 1v1 with Coman.
Oh totally agreed; from a position of having not a single one, even the unintelligent version would be an absolute blessing.
 

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I don't think a single person watching the World Cup would think Mount was a better player than Kudus.
 

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Oh totally agreed; from a position of having not a single one, even the unintelligent version would be an absolute blessing.
It’s quite amazing that we go through summer after summer failing to add such players. I said last summer that every one of our signings needs to be one that elevates our possession play. It wasn’t the case this summer as it hasn’t been so before.
 
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