Add Fred as a 3rd man and it would be a Ralph midfield. Then we realize he has been shafted and now it's ETH . The cycle continues.Caicedo and Casemiro in midfield would instantly make ours one of the worst midfields to play against as an opposition midfielder
Would be an absolute nightmare trying to breathe with the ball in the middle of the park
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Yeah definitely need that link player now, however outside of De Jong there hasn't been any credible stories in that area.
Caicedo and Casemiro would be a very negative midfield, not going to happen with Ten Hag as manager (would've been a wet dream for Mourinho though). It was always going to be one or the other.
Caicedo can take over from Casemiro in 2 years time. He can play for Brighton till then. It will be good to have options. We can use both of them if we have them against City and Pool.
Very true but right now we need that midfield schemer type to compliment Casemiro (can't believe I am saying that)
I don’t think we are done with Frenkie. Maybe for this summer but my feeling is we go back in for him next summer.
Caicemiro surely
Can we cope without more than Eriksen to provide that sort of option for a year though
I think Eriksen needs to play in the premier league. Donny and Fred can play in the cups and initial stages of the Europa league.
Yeah - Casemiro is 30 though, unsure how much longer he can play with high intensity (assuming we get him). Still worth working on Caicedo or someone similar for January or even now if possible.
Oh yeah if we could bring him in either January or next summer with view to eventually taking over, however now we simply have to be focusing on other priorities in first XI
We have already made an offer while Liverpool is currently preparing one. Caicedo doesn't fancy us though.Tweet
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A lot of links to Liverpool right now. Be a bit shit if he ends up there. Can see him being a beast for them.
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Surprised considering that he is a fan and his whole family are United supporters. Plus his fav player is Antonio V.
I think he has become so overrated. He looks a decent player though.
He’s a massive United fan, there’s no way he’d not join. I don’t think we’re in for him anymore
Sell McTominay, get this kid in.
Need to launch agent Valencia.
Also Klopp publicly said they aren't signing any more players this window.
I hope we buy him anyways
I don’t think Amad was. I think he was considered the best talent of his age group in Italy(and in fairness he’s very good but lacks physicality/aggression) but there was general surprise in scouting circles that United were paying so much for a kid that was not a top tier youth talent. This is a contemporaneous quote from an espn article at the time of his purchase from a scout who specialises in the Italian market.
"I have seen Diallo many times and he's an interesting talent, but I have to admit that the deal, especially at the figures involved, was a great surprise to me," he told ESPN under the condition of anonymity. "Yes, he's excelled at youth level and yes, even with those from age groups above, but in my view he's not comparable to players like [Barcelona's] Ansu Fati, [Real Madrid's] Vinicius Jr., Reinier or Rodrygo, who I all tracked at youth level. And for the money involved in this deal you expect a potential world star. I just don't see Amad Diallo having the same potential of those I mentioned."
i could see us making a last minute bid for him this window if it becomes quite clear that the Frenkie deal won't happen with Barca and it would be a good bid to make
That's fair, but he was still rated as a very good talent no matter which way you look at it. It's not as if some lad out of Ecuador is a guaranteed success, even if he was playing senior football which is clearly a massive advantage.
The point is its a massive step to go out there and play for Man Utd in front of 75k under the pressure this team is under as a youth with hardly any experience. He might not have even got a game here, and his development would be stuck in mud. We're also not the only team in the world that would have had the option to pip Brighton to his signature. At the end of the day he went to a club that has perfectly justified his decision because he actually plays football.
Just weird how many captain hindsights we have.
£40 to £50 million would be a fair price.
Have a feeling he'll be a better signing than Casemeiro
He’ll be perfect at Liverpool if he ends up there. High energy and intensity. Him and Fabinho would be a fierce combo.
Who are these people?
Is he the next Casemiro? In which case he would have fit the profile of the type of player we should be after..
Agreed. McFred tend to get bossed by every other midfield in the league these days so I wasn't that impressed with his performance against us. He's a good player but not elite like Casemiro/Rodri/Fabinho.
Was it not reported that the Utd scouts rated him only behind Ansu Fati in his age group? I think Amad was a recruitment team/scouts pushing him type signing.
He has played like 10 premier league games and looked average in most. He puts himself about but doesn’t have elite ability on the ball and he isn’t extremely physical either. I’ve seen nothing from him that would tell me he is good enough for us other than that he is better than McTominay
I would not listen to what Klopp is saying. He can change his tune in a matter of days.
Doubt it. He is a huge United fan . If we tell them , we will come back next year he would stay. 100 %
Crikey, I leave for a few days and without gate keeping with facts and balance, nonsense and hyperbole just repeats. The poster above says £40-£50m would be “fair”. What the poster means is, as a fan of the club trying to buy the player, he’d like to pay no more than £40-£50m. What it doesn’t take into account is whether Manchester United would pay that, or more importantly, whether Brighton & Hove Albion would accept it. I suspect the latter is the bigger problem.
Can I just clarify something else, because as usual excitement breeds misinformation. At no point has Moises Caicedo ever said he is a “massive Manchester United fan”.
Here’s what did say;
“My dream is to play for Manchester United. Antonio Valencia is an example to follow. With his strength and dedication, he was able to get to that level. That motivates me to keep working hard and do the right things.”
He wants to follow in the footsteps of his hero, the greatest Ecuadorean footballer to play in the PL. He also says he didn’t watch a lot of football growing up, he mainly played on the PlayStation.
Everyone is available, in any club in the world, selling to any other club in the world. Regardless of age, experience, ability, loyalty or any other criteria. If the money is right.
Unfortunately in these cases, as with Caicedo, White, Cucurella it is Brighton - not Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool or Chelsea (or their supporters) who decide what the “right” price is.
It is the selling club, Brighton, in particular their billionaire chairman Tony Bloom, who decides.
I really, really hope that has helped some of you. It is good form to look outside of one’s own club and keeper a broader eye on the wider footballing world.
Can I just clarify something else, because as usual excitement breeds misinformation. At no point has Moises Caicedo ever said he is a “massive Manchester United fan”.
Here’s what did say;
“My dream is to play for Manchester United. Antonio Valencia is an example to follow. With his strength and dedication, he was able to get to that level. That motivates me to keep working hard and do the right things.”
He wants to follow in the footsteps of his hero, the greatest Ecuadorean footballer to play in the PL. He also says he didn’t watch a lot of football growing up, he mainly played on the PlayStation.
Everyone is available, in any club in the world, selling to any other club in the world. Regardless of age, experience, ability, loyalty or any other criteria. If the money is right.
Unfortunately in these cases, as with Caicedo, White, Cucurella it is Brighton - not Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool or Chelsea (or their supporters) who decide what the “right” price is.
It is the selling club, Brighton, in particular their billionaire chairman Tony Bloom, who decides.
I really, really hope that has helped some of you. It is good form to look outside of one’s own club and keeper a broader eye on the wider footballing world.
So no one is allowed to state an amount that they think is good enough so not to offend you- not that i think we'll be moving for him anyways.
Plus he says his dream is to play for Manchester united so i have no clue what you're on about.
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Caicedo saying it is “his dream to play for Manchester United” is just as bad as him being a Manchester Utd fan. It doesn’t make it any better from a Brighton perspective.Bossed Rice today against West Ham. He’s the real deal.
We'll make sure it remains a dreamDude
It’s worse if anything.. dude wants to feck off to this shit show and isn’t even a fan!Dude
He'll be one of the most sought after players around before long, if he's not signed to soon. The Liverpool links don't surprise me in the slightest, he'd be a monster for them.
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