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Most complete footballer ever?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Matthäus for sure.
Could do anything you asked of him
Could do anything you asked of him
Wayne Rooney. At his best, there wasn't much he couldn't do. Could play CF, CAM, RW, LW and CM all up to at least a 6 or 7/10. Had an eye for a pass, decent finisher, tackler, disciplined in his defensive duties, good at Set pieces and long-range shooting. Can't think of many flaws in his game.
Moreno?
Past: Rooney seriously
Present: Trippier apparently
Present: Trippier apparently
Fat ronaldo
Came in to say Gullit.
Was just a force of nature. Picked up the ball and ran at goal players left behind players bounced off him keepers embarrassed. Unreal.
Nah. Not that good at headers, mediocre at penalties, no defensive/pressing contribution, no leadership/charisma.
I think he is the best ever, but he is not a complete player.
My vote would go to Di Stefano, but then I haven't watched near as much as him as I have of Messi. From modern players, probably Zidane.
Peak Rooney could do everything. I'd put money on him being a better center back than Lindelof.
Never watched the Gullits and Rijkaards but for us Rooney has to be around the top. Could've played any outfield position bar CB and done a good job at it.
Rijkaard, Gullit, Beckenbauer, Breitner
More modern ones: Yaya Toure, Lahm, Kimmich, Alaba, Frenkie De Jong
More modern ones: Yaya Toure, Lahm, Kimmich, Alaba, Frenkie De Jong
I don't swing that way!
Also decent in goal.
Gerrard? I don't know about ever but I feel he could play every position at a decent level.
Pele, Di stefano, Cryuff, Best
Di Stefano - from what I've heard
Duncan Edwards - from what I've heard
Beckbenbauer - I think its safe to say he is the most completed defender ever
Pogba - from modern day football, I've never seen a midfielder as "completed" as him, whether he is performing on a consistence basis though is another issue
Rooney - I thought he is very all rounded, in the sense that he could score goals, create goals, work for the team, and be very agressive trying to win ball back
Messi - in terms of pure attacking sense, playmaker and goalscoring
Ronaldo - 07-14 version of him is most completed attacker/goalscorer I've ever seen - finishing, heading, pace, dribbling, tricks, strength, athleticism, long shots, freekicks, crossing, left foot, right foot, composed, driven etc
Duncan Edwards - from what I've heard
Beckbenbauer - I think its safe to say he is the most completed defender ever
Pogba - from modern day football, I've never seen a midfielder as "completed" as him, whether he is performing on a consistence basis though is another issue
Rooney - I thought he is very all rounded, in the sense that he could score goals, create goals, work for the team, and be very agressive trying to win ball back
Messi - in terms of pure attacking sense, playmaker and goalscoring
Ronaldo - 07-14 version of him is most completed attacker/goalscorer I've ever seen - finishing, heading, pace, dribbling, tricks, strength, athleticism, long shots, freekicks, crossing, left foot, right foot, composed, driven etc
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If you by complete mean most versatile player, as in very skilled at long passes, short passes, shooting, dribbling, heading, tactical knowledge, awareness, reading the play, technique (functional), technique (spectacular), attacking, defending, attitude, leadership and mentality, I’m gonna go with Zidane.
Messi sucks at defending and heading. CR7 is a more complete player but not as complete as Zidane or Rooney, CR7 for example lacks the team mentality. Not many players who are complete like that to pick from. Wazza is a real challenger to Zizou though.
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Im amazed that so few have said Pele but I guess its a sign that the majority of football fans today never saw him or are fully aware of why he was thought of as so great.
Surprised not many have said peak Rooney. The guy could do almost anything (except stay away from grannies).
a goalkeeper and 10 peak Rooneys would have been some team.
a goalkeeper and 10 peak Rooneys would have been some team.
The sacred cow!
Attacking Messi, Overall Di Stefano or Gullit
Ignore my previous post, you beat me to it. I agree though, he was a seriously versatile player with massive explosive power, aggression, instinct and skill in equal measures.
Dude’s ball control with his acceleration and pace was out of this world. Can’t think of any player who is even close today.
I didn’t even think about Kimmich but more about all-time greats (Matthäus, Gullit etc.). However Kimmich has already played as CB, FB, DM, Wingback and as a CM. I am pretty sure he could work as CAM as well.
I guess that it’s no coincidence that one of most complete players ever, Wayne Rooney, is known as White Pele.
first thought was Matthäus
Valderama in with a shout. He used to be all over the place. Epic hair as well...which should def be an attribute on FM btw
Valderama in with a shout. He used to be all over the place. Epic hair as well...which should def be an attribute on FM btw
Peak R9
Zero weakness in his game.
Zero weakness in his game.
Quinton Fortune.
Prime Cristiano Ronaldo.
Once I heard someone argued that a team with 11 Azpilicuetas would win everything
You learn something new every day
Viduka was pretty well rounded
So was Neil ruddock
Messi and Ronaldo are probably the two best players ever. "Complete footballers"? Nah.
Paul Scholes
Guillt is the obvious answer. Played every attacking positions for Milan. Played Sweeper/CB in the latter stages of his career. Guy could do everything on the pitch.
Pogba??
The bloke can't defend. Doesn't run enough. Doesn't score many. Doesn't take any set pieces.Messi isn't complete at all. Just the best attacking player ever.
Sir Bobby Charlton? Didn't he play at high level as an inside forward and also as a playmaking CM?
Mathias Sammer! Played everywhere during his career(except GK).