Mourinho Press Conference - Newcastle (H)
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
The only explanation for signing Lindelof to be fair.Jesus. Will be accused for human trafficking at this rate.
There are better words than hyperbolic but we are a respectful bunch on here and would never stoop so low.
Being Jose in, or Jose out, or simply wanting what's best for United is fine. Creating a fantasy that doesn't exist beyond your own mind (third Reich comparisons...) Well that's just rather odd.
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Blimey i think this post should get done for gross misconduct
I agree. The second things started not working out for him he should have started giving press conferences like these, rather than throwing the players under the bus. This is what he should have been doing.
Wrong. If you have paid attention you would know that I agree that he needs to go - your comments about his «conduct» are, however, completely over the top.
If there was an ounce of truth in what you are suggesting then we would have been sacked for «misconduct» ages ago.
What a stupid fecking question. And then straight on twitter, clearly proud with his attempt to cause a little drama. Literally a professional WUM.
The word "enough" is missing. The club hasn't backed him enough. Unless of course you consider not backing him at all on the summer acceptable.
If a department in a business is given money for their budget in year one and in year two, but not in year 3 or its heavily reduced, despite clear and demonstrable progress, then you cannot claim to have backed them fully or enough.
What do you suggest as an appropriate punishment? Firing squad execution in front of the public?
I think you took that Torres book far too seriously.
When Jose discusses things at length with media which they usually paint negatively anyway, Caf says.. "Why talk so much and feed the press?"
When he treats banal and shit questions, exactly how they deserve and wraps up things early, "He clearly wants sack, disinterested in job."
He did a good thing not bothering answering some of the crap questions. He is not going to discuss reasons of why things are not working out with media and give them even more material to create divides in team. Similarly he is not going to answer the stupid follow up question Simon Stone asked.
Basically he needs to do all he can to turn things on pitch and stop bothering discussing things with press till then.
When he treats banal and shit questions, exactly how they deserve and wraps up things early, "He clearly wants sack, disinterested in job."
He did a good thing not bothering answering some of the crap questions. He is not going to discuss reasons of why things are not working out with media and give them even more material to create divides in team. Similarly he is not going to answer the stupid follow up question Simon Stone asked.
Basically he needs to do all he can to turn things on pitch and stop bothering discussing things with press till then.
I heard yesterday that Chelsea still employee Conte and own his registration. This is how they get around the big payout. We could do the same with Jose. Another club will hire him I’d expect. May not pay what United pay.
Inhospitable environment
Wtf do they expect him to say? Reporters really are shite aren't they?
HR course gone bad.Inhospitable environment
Lets see... if we're talking United conduct only, it might be a tad OTT but his whole career into account, he definitely has been guilty of gross misconduct.
- dishonesty/deception - constantly lying about his own failings, using the fans when it suits his agenda, the way he spoke about Luke Shaw constantly needing coaching and then put on a pantomime show of having to constantly talk him through a game.
- sabotage - The West Ham game alone was example of sabotage - there is no way he picked that team thinking that was the best side and tactics to get a result (in the past at other clubs, he has previous for picking sides with a point to make to the board with no intention of getting the best possible result), his press conferences during pre-season saying fans shouldn't come out to watch the club play.
- discrimination - This doesn't necessarily have to mean racial or sexual (though some might point to the Eva incident) but its clear that he discriminates against certain players and has backed others to the point beyond reason. He picks favorites which any manager is entitled to do, but he then ostracizes players who have tried their best for him just out of spite. He didn't use to do this.
- harassment/bullying/abuse - these can all come under one umbrella.. you just need to look at the treatment of Shaw for over two years and Martial. Relentlessly digging them out publically, criticizing their performances without due reason and taking them in and out of the side, messing with their heads and making out to the fans that these players are 'lazy' and 'entitled'. Both these players went from fan favorites, to becoming pariahs and considering their age - must have been pretty tough to take mentally for them.
Stupid question = bait.That's all it is.The press are just baiting managers,not only Jose,into going on long rants.
And then,if a manager goes along with the bait,we'll get a never-ending supply of clickbait articles.
Actually my post did no such thing. The title was a tasteless I admit, but the content basically described our football as the least 'liberal' or free-flowing of all the top European teams. Using political analogies to describe football philosophies is not unheard of, Shankly and even Fergie spoke about the Northern giants being brought up on 'socialist' principles and even Klopp I think has spoke about socialism playing a part in his coaching philosophy.
I did compare Jose to Trump, and his ever-dwindling fan base as blinded alt-right republicans though.
Inhospitable working environment, are they expecting a red carpet upon arrival at Carrington? These are footballers who are paid hundreds of thousands a week, get to train at world class facilities, get freebies from sponsorships (including a free car), no doubt have top quality food whilst in Carrington, free healthcare from a top class doctor/ physios etc, play infront of 70k+ fans every week and play for a football club steeped in history. Are you sure they are made to work in an inhospitable working environment?
I don't even know what to say about your bullet point list, are you a journalist by any chance?
I can't stand Jose and want him gone but you're going way over the top here. Take a break chief. Sabotage
He also said the Derby game was a draw.
I don’t want to be condescending but I don’t think there can be a reasonable response to this.. Breaking it down in fancy bullet points doesn’t make it any more true.
Many outlets and pundits spoke about sabotage during the past week after the Hammers game. I am sure many posters also described that team selection as sabotage and Mourinho wanting out. I am not the only one to say that. Type in sabotage into the redcafe search function and you'll see tonnes of posts relating to that accusation.. I have only mentioned it in this thread.I can't stand Jose and want him gone but you're going way over the top here. Take a break chief. Sabotage
My guess would be something connected with law.
Only profession capable of writing such bollocks.
No, you're the only one who has decided to throw in some heavy words and implied that your ramblings have some sort of legal ground to terminate his contract. Which they don't, because that's not how the "real world" works, you increasingly bizzare person.
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While I agree that the post is over the top, he does have a point about sabotage, what was the point of making Herrera and McTominay as CBs when a fit CB was available, even if Mourinho considered Jones as very poor why not give the chance to a CB in the u21 squad? Surely a young CB would be much better option than McTominay as a CB?
While sabotage is too harsh a word and Mourinho's main aim was to take shots at Woodward for not getting him a CB, ultimately our team paid for it and we lost 6 points, that is indirect sabotage IMO.
I am not a big fan of Woody. I think he's clearly out of depth to anything remotely linked to the football side of the club.
Having said Mou's transfer strategy so far is hardly inspiring. He wanted another CB and that's after buying Lindelof & Bailly, he threw Mkhitaryan out of the club after a couple of months here and seem to have issues with Sanchez (whose dire) and Pogba. That's 50% of his transfers. Meanwhile most of our players had regressed and our best performers are DDG (SAF signing), Fellaini (Moyes signing) and Shaw (LVG signing). I am not a big fan of him trying to buy 30 year old players on ridiculous fees either. That's not the way to rebuild the club
I must say I feel sorry for Jose, must be very difficult when you realize you have lost that special touch, that football has moved on while you were sleeping. When you try every trick in the book and it still fails. It looks like Jose really doesn't know what to do anymore, he is out of ideas and hasn't got a clue how to fix this. I am sure that Newcastle will be well prepared for UTD and Jose's tactics, not sure we will get the win.
Look what this toxic man is doing to us! ∆∆∆∆∆
Harrassment, bullying, abuse, discrimination. Jesus christ, José should be in jail!
Surely not while he's perfectly qualified to be a prominent member of the US senate?
So where are the defenders Mourinho wanted to sign in the summer may I ask?
Do you think Mourinho was backed in this window?
@Raees would make a good VP for Trump. He will be his best buddy
I don’t understand the circlejerk of chuckles this post has received. You’re correct.
Sounds like he can go and be a character on its always sunny after he gets sacked if there's any truth to your list.
Someone asks you to give examples of a previous post. This you have done in very concrete fashion imo, and now you're getting hammered for it. Some of your points are valid imho and good on you for having the balls to put them forward.
That excuse won’t fly in any other working environment, and it won’t fly here. Just because you don’t like your boss doesn’t mean you stop working. You take it up with management outside of your responsibilities. No chef is under cooking food because he doesn’t like his boss. No bank teller is giving out incorrect money because they don’t like their boss. You don’t take your frustrations out on the customers because your boss is a dick. If we all did that nothing would ever get done. The players owe the fans their best effort regardless of Mourinho being a dick to them or not. Luke Shaw showed as all that mourninho challenged him and instead of crying about it like everyone else did, he got his head down and made his best effort to prove Mourinho wrong. Jose has rewarded that effort with making him first choice in his favoured position. Shaw is now arguably our most consistent and best performing player.
You might not like the man, but he seems to have gotten the best out of Shaw and he’s turned felliani around to be what looks like our MVP. Who would have thought that was even possible a season ago?
Jose isn’t a nice man, is the point I see being made a lot. IMO, who gives a feck? Do as your told, and play football the bosses way. If you have a problem take it up with HR or higher management not the press and certainly not on the field. How many of us were horrified watching Di Maria sulking around the pitch because he didn’t get on with lvg? I hated lvg and wanted him gone but that was no way for any player to treat the clubs supporters.
You're not well.
He sabotaged West Ham game..