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Mourinho will always do his best to protect himself from criticism even if it means blaming and naming players in Public.

He should concentrate more in proper coaching and balance of his teams instead of looking to blame the tea lady, rather than himself.

Everytime we lose an important game he looks for more money 300/400 million. The game has changed, and more teams and clubs are looking for the right coaching rather than trying to be the biggest spenders. A team full of individuals won't win you anything.
 

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Mourinho will always do his best to protect himself from criticism even if it means blaming and naming players in Public.

He should concentrate more in proper coaching and balance of his teams instead of looking to blame the tea lady, rather than himself.

Everytime we lose an important game he looks for more money 300/400 million. The game has changed, and more teams and clubs are looking for the right coaching rather than trying to be the biggest spenders. A team full of individuals won't win you anything.
At least make points without making things up. How can you say that teams are not trying to spend after the summer just gone.

Posts like these are just emotional and irrational. It has NEVER been about individuals period.
 

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I don't think he meant it the way a lot of people are taking it.

"this stuff happens. It's happened before and it happened today."

That's all. He's not saying, haha feck United or haha I knocked out United again. Might be lost in translation paired with the cocky demeanour he usually sports when he just lost a big game.

Don't like the guy, but this is not a dig at United if you ask me.
Agreed. I think he was angry with the result and the performance and in the back of his mind he can always hear voices coming from all directions and telling him that he's done for as a tactician at the highest level. We shouldn't fool ourselves, these 180 minutes against Sevilla is all the criticism on paper made flesh.

In that sense, i don't think it was him being cocky as it was him feeling insecure and with his back to the wall. Add to that the fact he rarely has been subtle with his choice of words. It wasn't a dig at United, it was a poor attempt to defend himself. So poor that it sounded like a dig at United.

And for what it's worth, i had found his comment about the poets in football after beating a young and inexperienced Ajax side more disturbing tbh. You are the best-paid manager in the world (or second best-paid), you have signed your "four specialists" and you manage one of the most expensive squads in the world of football. Towards the end of the season, you have crashed out of the top-four and you have trudged your way through to a Europa Cup final. You basically called all-in after the river card and played your whole season in 90 minutes against a team that doesn't have the resources to compete with you. OK, you won but this is not exactly the occasion to celebrate your tactical prowess.
 

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I don't think he meant it the way a lot of people are taking it.

"this stuff happens. It's happened before and it happened today."

That's all. He's not saying, haha feck United or haha I knocked out United again. Might be lost in translation paired with the cocky demeanor he usually sports when he just lost a big game.

Don't like the guy, but this is not a dig at United if you ask me.
This was my take on it, but he definitely could have worded it better. Almost came across as him bragging.
 

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Umm... so one last-16 exit is evidence of this? Really? Where's the perspective? Or did you feel the same way even when we beat Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal this season? This when we sit second (5 clear of third) behind the most ludicrously extravagant club in the history of the game, on a run which is truly unprecedented?
Yes - very much. I think Jose has done very well to improve the overall squad and in terms of our league position - it's decent. However, progress needs to asessed based on team dynamics, confidence and future prospects as well. At the moment - he has taken a team which was developing a good dynamic, and asked them to start over. There is no clear plan or team structure that is developing. Each player plays a different role each day, and it's hampering their performances. Yes, that's not progress. I'm not saying that we shouldn't keep Jose as the manager. His methods have worked in the past and could might as well work next season. However, it is hard to say that we have really made progress this season!

Yup, he also used to get rid of all the unproven players, bringing in new and expensive players, driving them relentlessly to the absolute limit in the second season - leading to the meltdown in Season 3. Here, he's trusted the younger players, bought fewer than elsewhere, brought in academy players as well and gone slower - leading to Chelsea fans cribbing that he's "treating United far more like a long-term project than he ever did Chelsea". Had he ditched Rashford, Martial, Shaw, Lingard etc. as "too inconsistent right now", he'd possibly be challenging, but be vilified for breaking with "the United Way". Now, instead, he's being criticized for the obvious downside to a more gradual approach. Can't have it both ways...

He can take the gradual approach. I'm not critical of him here, I just think that in each of his previous Chelsea firings, it was the same pattern. Coming out with comments which were disrespectful to the club, picking fights with players etc. I just hope he doesn't start off on the same path again.

I will however criticize him for the Sevilla game - which was undoubtedly poor management and tactics from him. The players were culpable, but he was just stubborn and uninspiring.

Because it never happened to Fergie? Because Moyes and LvG were always in the hunt? Or because your expectations have been raised on account of Jose's performances since he took over? For me, the disappointment comes from the fact that I've started believing we can do better - and in the cold light of day, I will admit it's because of how Jose has done for us since taking over. We're no longer a sh*te team capable of nothing but boring sideways passing / endless aimless crossing. So when something goes against plan, suck it up and look at the bigger picture. To deny that we've progressed is strange when you take things in perspective.
Thanks for that perspective, but that was exactly my problem. We are not a team which is capable of nothing but boring sideways passing, but that's exactly what we did for 180 minutes in our most important game so far this season.
 

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At least make points without making things up. How can you say that teams are not trying to spend after the summer just gone.

Posts like these are just emotional and irrational. It has NEVER been about individuals period.
I never said that teams are not trying to spend. I stated that teams are not trying to be the biggest spenders and looking for 300 million each season. For all the money we have spent we should be doing better than we are, and this is not making things up.
 

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I never said that teams are not trying to spend. I stated that teams are not trying to be the biggest spenders and looking for 300 million each season. For all the money we have spent we should be doing better than we are, and this is not making things up.
Im sorry but teams like PSG and City are quite clearly willing to spend and be big spenders. Your argument makes no sense.
 

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To be honest Jose (who I heavily backed and defended) lost my vote against after the first leg against Sevilla. Mind you this was the tipping point after a very disappointing 2 months prior to that. The tactics are dooming us and ruining our players. You don't have players the ability of Pogba, Sanchez, Martial and turn them crap without it being the mangers fault. I have no doubt in my mind those 3 players are world class on their day, yet at United they look like Championship players.

I'm firmly against Jose now. I will however defend his comments and give him the benefit of the doubt that they were taking out of context and or not meant to way people are reacting to.
 

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To be honest Jose (who I heavily backed and defended) lost my vote against after the first leg against Sevilla. Mind you this was the tipping point after a very disappointing 2 months prior to that. The tactics are dooming us and ruining our players. You don't have players the ability of Pogba, Sanchez, Martial and turn them crap without it being the mangers fault. I have no doubt in my mind those 3 players are world class on their day, yet at United they look like Championship players.

I'm firmly against Jose now. I will however defend his comments and give him the benefit of the doubt that they were taking out of context and or not meant to way people are reacting to.
This just seems like a very emotional post. His tactics were correct for Liverpool and Chelsea. He made the right changes in the second half against Palace. He made grave errors and mistakes against Sevilla. Sevilla are the only team other than City to beat us at home. Mourinho just got it terribly wrong.

Martial is not world class. Im sorry, he just isn’t. Players like Pogba being looking like championship players is just emotional hyperbole.

It’s your right to be for or against Mourinho. Backing him after the 3 games we had in the league and then turning against him after Sevilla though, I find baffling. It would make more sense if you were against him before the Sevilla game.

I’m sure it’s clear, but I am not defending him for his decisions against Sevilla.
 

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This just seems like a very emotional post.
I'm probably just overly sour due to flying to Manchester to the game to see that dished up on a night that should've been magical. But we have been far from great since Christmas and the Sevilla away match was just the final straw of watching negative football. Bristol, Southampton, Burnley, Spurs, Newcastle.. all just terrible games.
 

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I'm probably just overly sour due to flying to Manchester to the game to see that dished up on a night that should've been magical. But we have been far from great since Christmas and the Sevilla away match was just the final straw of watching negative football. Bristol, Southampton, Burnley, Spurs, Newcastle.. all just terrible games.
Yes, Sevilla was very dissapointing and I put the blame with Jose. It does seem a bit emotional that you have seemingly wiped the 3 games we had prior to Sevilla from your memory and you are remembering the bad things.

We all get down after a bad loss. I think this is one of Jose’s worst performances and losses. Let’s just hope the team bounces back against Brighton.
 

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To be honest Jose (who I heavily backed and defended) lost my vote against after the first leg against Sevilla. Mind you this was the tipping point after a very disappointing 2 months prior to that. The tactics are dooming us and ruining our players. You don't have players the ability of Pogba, Sanchez, Martial and turn them crap without it being the mangers fault. I have no doubt in my mind those 3 players are world class on their day, yet at United they look like Championship players.

I'm firmly against Jose now. I will however defend his comments and give him the benefit of the doubt that they were taking out of context and or not meant to way people are reacting to.
Exactly how do you imagine Mou has negatively effected Pogba's form? I mean he's largely being asked to do the same job game after game and he has been very good in periods.

I don't see a tactical argument as he can do it, if Pogba is so mentally weak that comments have affected him them thats a worry.
 

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It is an opinion that teams like City and PSG are willing to be big spenders? Just admit that you are wrong.
I don't get into arguments about Opinions, and I certainly don't bully anyone into admitting their wrong.. Goodbye sir.
 

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He's too detached from the club and it's fans - those comments exemplify this.

Not calling for his head but I don't think I would care much when he does leave the club. Pretty sure he'll leave with no leagues or CLs too.
 

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Article on the Express website saying that Wenger would do better with the players we have, any thoughts?
 

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Exactly how do you imagine Mou has negatively effected Pogba's form? I mean he's largely being asked to do the same job game after game and he has been very good in periods.

I don't see a tactical argument as he can do it, if Pogba is so mentally weak that comments have affected him them thats a worry.
The Pogba we know and love was different gravy compared to how he's been playing since the Spurs game. It's like the job he's given has sucked the enjoyment out of the game and he hasn't looked arsed in a while. You could say it's down to his mental weakness but the manager should be always trying to get the best out of him.

Pogba is an attacking minded player. He's being wasted away in this team style.
 

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@haram You seem to be defending mourinho and so clearly trust him, Do you really see him improving us?

I want him gone as i don't see him getting any better, he has spent 300mn and yet every time he sees a half decent team he has us defend like we are stoke. He wants SMS, another mf or 2, cb and may be a lb next season which will see him spend atleast another 200-250mn. Yet the minute we will face a decent team he will revert to his disgusting anti football. I don't require to us to play klopp or guardiola footy but if we are going to give a manager 500mn i expect him to play decent football and try to win every game possible.

Mourinho i know for sure will have atleast 2-3 games every season where he will just look to defend and get a draw with no attempt made to even try to win. Last season it was Arsenal home and City away, this season Liverpool and Sevilla away and we may see similar stuff against City in a few weeks. Those addition 200mn will see us get better results but will the football improve? More importantly will his own attitude to go defensive change? I don't think it can.

We might win a trophy this season most likely even next season if he stays but do those trophies mean anything? Give any top manager 500mn to spend and he will win something but when you are spending that sort of money there has to be some substance to our football.
 
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He's too detached from the club and it's fans - those comments exemplify this.

Not calling for his head but I don't think I would care much when he does leave the club. Pretty sure he'll leave with no leagues or CLs too.
I'm not sure about that. League is his specialty and he might be able to deliver that next season. Pep is still his biggest rival in football and he won't leave unless he has been able to win that battle. No other club in England will give him the opportunity to do that.
 

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We might win a trophy this season most likely even next season if he stays but do those trophies mean anything? Give any top manager 500mn to spend and he will win something but when you are spending that sort of money there has to be some substance to our football.
I have a similar opinion. We need to start looking at other options, or atleast start considering newer managerial options.

I don't think we need every player to be top 10 for a team to be good. You can have a few, then build around them and get a very functional and fluid system. However, in Mourinho's case, I don't think he tries to play to our strengths. It is always nullify an opponent first and then see what you can do. I don't think he is the right person to get the most out of a new skilled player, unless that player enjoys sitting back and playing without the ball, and in modern football, I don't think we will ever find a defensive player in that mould and will just end up spoiling any new addition.

We don't even need a managerial masterclass. Just keep things simple, play players in their proper positions, try to play progressive football which does not involve defending with 10 men against teams like Sevilla at home, and we will eventually reach there.

Sometimes I feel that managing a big club is actually a burden for Mourinho. He could have worked wonders at Everton or Watford, where defending deep against any opposition will not be frowned upon and he can get the 'us vs the rest' mentality to work. He works better in underdog situations.
 

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What you talking about? He's managed Chelsea, Madrid and Inter pretty successfully.
 

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We might win a trophy this season most likely even next season if he stays but do those trophies mean anything? Give any top manager 500mn to spend and he will win something but when you are spending that sort of money there has to be some substance to our football.
When theres so much hate that even trophies won't count. lol
 

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These comments are worse compared to what Moyes said. Moyes can be excused for being totally over his head as the manager of United, but someone with Mourinho's standing should not be making an excuses like this. He should be fuming with himself and the team for that disgraceful performance, and months of negative football (unless it's against a low feeder team). I do understand what he was referencing to, but this was not the time to do that, not after that performance.
 

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Article on the Express website saying that Wenger would do better with the players we have, any thoughts?
No, can't see it unless we're only talking about playing football that's pleasing to the eye regardless of the final position on the PL table.

If Mourinho is considered to be cooked as a tactician at the highest level, then Wenger is not only finished but naive too in his general approach. Despite all his vices as a manager and the meltdown at Chelsea, Mourinho has walked the PL recently (2015) and in the previous season he almost won it with Ba as his main forward. I can't even remember when was the last time that Wenger seriously challenged for the league title.

Silly and clickbait article IMO, given that Wenger's not pulling up any trees for a long time now. It would make better sense to suggest that managers like Allegri, Conte or Simeone, who are all reactive managers like Mourinho, could do a better job with these players. Or that managers on the rise like Poch, Tuchel, Jardim could achieve more with this set of players. But Wenger? Seriously?

I think that neither of them can lead a team to a CL trophy or final nowadays but i still think that Mourinho's setup can still grind out a league title which is a marathon of 38 games. I can't say the same about Wenger.
 
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He condemned himself by saying he was happy because he and the players had done their best. If that's their best against a merely decent team, then he's not good enough. He failed in motivation, selection and tactics. It's his team with his players, various of which were signed for world class fees or wages, so he can't fall back on excuses.
 

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First time posting since the match. We’ve nothing really left to play for but we bow out like that and then that’s what Jose comes out with after. I’m at a complete loss as to what to try next but it’s become increasingly clear over the last few months that he’s not going to be the guy to lead us to long term success/good football/sensible transfers. His decisions and style of football are baffling to say the least. We needed to score 2 early in that game to kill them off and neutarisle the away goal threat. Instead we do what? Crazy. Same with palace. He got it right only after we go 2-0 down.... take the initiative man!
 

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He's too detached from the club and it's fans - those comments exemplify this.

Not calling for his head but I don't think I would care much when he does leave the club. Pretty sure he'll leave with no leagues or CLs too.
I agree with this. It's concerning.
 

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He also said Sir Alex had a 'result problem' that's why he didn't shake his hand etc. I can't find post match interview but I remember it 100%. If Porto didn't get on like absolute thundercunts throughout, and actually beat us fair-and-square I doubt Sir Alex would have been so furious.
 

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He also said Sir Alex had a result problem that's why he didn't shake his hand. If Porto didn't get on like absolute thundercunts throughout and actually beat us fair and square I doubt Sir Alex would have been so furious.
If the linesman (and/or Tim Howard) had done his job they wouldn’t have beaten us at all.
 

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If the linesman (and/or Tim Howard) had done his job they wouldn’t have beaten us at all.
Yeah that's true. I mean that decsion cost us the tie. Despite Keane's sending off.
 

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Yeah that's true. I mean that decsion cost us the tie. Despite Keane's sending off.
Weird to think that possibly the most average Ferguson side beyond the mid nineties could have conceivably won the CL if not for a bad offside call. Just shows how much the Champions League is to do with luck as well as being good enough...and how daft it was to play how we played the other night and toss luck out of the window by not actually giving it a go.
 

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Weird to think that possibly the most average Ferguson side beyond the mid nineties could have conceivably won the CL if not for a bad offside call. Just shows how much the Champions League is to do with luck as well as being good enough...and how daft it was to play how we played the other night and toss luck out of the window by not actually giving it a go.
Think this is what has upset people the most.
You can bemoan luck and lack of quality all you like but those arguments fall flat when you haven't tried against an inferior team.
 

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Think this is what has upset people the most.
You can bemoan luck and lack of quality all you like but those arguments fall flat when you haven't tried against an inferior team.
Pretty obvious we did try to try when you look at the first 5 minutes, the players just bottled it and were crying afterwards

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/28e149d4-27cb-11e8-acc5-262aff1ca7a6

"Blame me, José Mourinho told tearful Manchester United players
José Mourinho told a tearful Manchester United dressing room that he would take the flak for the embarrassing Champions League exit during one of two emotive post-match speeches at Old Trafford on Tuesday night.

Some members of the United squad were so devastated by the 2-1 loss to Seville that they were in tears after the game. Mourinho was subjected to damning criticism, some of it from club legends Rio Ferdinand and Paul Scholes, after he failed to deliver the Champions League quarter-final place that was demanded of him by the United board.

Despite not making the last eight of the tournament, Mourinho did not give his players the hairdryer treatment in the dressing room. He said he was “happy” to see a number of players were extremely upset at the loss.

“When we win, we all win, when we lose, I lose alone,” the United manager is understood to have told his players.

Mourinho then walked down the corridor to the away dressing room where, with the permission of Vincenzo Montella, the Seville manager, he addressed the visiting squad and wished them luck in the rest of the competition. The Seville squad appreciated the gesture and responded by giving the United manager a round of applause.

Mourinho and his team were booed off the pitch after the defeat, with many United supporters angry at the selection of Marouane Fellaini over Paul Pogba in midfield, and at Mourinho’s conservative tactics. Montella allowed Mourinho to address his players after the game Montella allowed Mourinho to address his players after the game

Romelu Lukaku, the United striker, admitted that he and his team-mates had a duty to entertain the fans when they came to Old Trafford on Saturday for the FA Cup quarter-final against Brighton & Hove Albion.

“It is an important game and we have to give fans what they want to see, which is winning games and playing attractive football,” said the Belgian, who scored a late consolation after Wissam Ben Yedder had put Seville 2-0 up.

Despite claiming in his pre-match press conference that the 0-0 first-leg draw was “not an especially good result”, it is understood that Mourinho’s game plan for the tie was to stifle Seville in Spain and then try to be more expansive at home. But a number of players performed poorly on Tuesday, including the entire back four and Alexis Sánchez, who has one goal in ten matches for the club.

Despite Sánchez’s poor form, Mourinho retains confidence in the forward and he is set to start against Brighton. Sánchez has one goal in ten games for Man United

Mourinho’s tactics, described as “baffling” by Ferdinand, do not sit easy with some board members at Old Trafford, but crucially for the Portuguese, he still has the full support of Ed Woodward, the executive vice-chairman.

Woodward is planning to back Mourinho in the transfer market this summer. The United manager would like a full back, a central defender and at least one central midfielder. Fred, the Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder, has been scouted by United and could move in a £40 million deal after Manchester City cooled their interest in the 25-year-old.

Daley Blind, Matteo Darmian and Marcos Rojo could be sold while Michael Carrick will retire in June. Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Fellaini are also expected to leave when their contracts expire this summer, even though Mourinho would like to keep the latter."
 

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Weird to think that possibly the most average Ferguson side beyond the mid nineties could have conceivably won the CL if not for a bad offside call. Just shows how much the Champions League is to do with luck as well as being good enough...and how daft it was to play how we played the other night and toss luck out of the window by not actually giving it a go.
Exactly. If Mourinho had us playing like Chelsea before that Spurs thrashing or counter attacking football that we saw at Madrid.. feck even Inter... I'm sure most of the fans would be squarely behind him.
 
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