We absolutely hammered Inter in the away leg too. We were extremely unlucky not to give them a tonking that night at the San Siro.
Yes, but why bring up all the times he won at Old Trafford knocking us out and not mention that time when we knocked him out? Seems like he's implying that this club is used to being knocked out.
Yep, was just watching the highlights from that game. Apparently there was a time when we could actually attack the opponent and not just sit back and pass the ball in our half.
Every post Fergie failure emphasises just how brilliant the man was.
Yes. People think that United's success is the only reason we are so well supported. It's the history along with the swagger in our play which brought all the attention to United. Even if Stoke win the next 5 PL titles, they won't be liked because people don't like seeing crap shite.
Why? He had his contract extended 2 months ago and he's making just about the highest salary for a coach or manager on the planet. Even if they did decide to fire him 2 months after giving him an extension, he'll still recoup a massive pay-out. This is hardly I Am Spartacus stuff.
Bet the Jose fanboys on here don't believe that playing attractive football and winning can go hand in hand. City have shown it's possible. They aren't an outlier. All the big teams in the big European leagues play fantastic football which aids them in winning. Playing good football is not a handicap as Jose has had some on here believe. It is the catalyst to becoming a great side. Cannot believe that we have to state the bloody obvious.
I'm saying how does it take courage for him to deflect attention to himself? What's the downside for him? His job is secure. He's not putting himself at any risk.
I don't believe he would do this considering how openly critical of his players he has been at times.
I was defending Mourinho all this time and was willing to go with his style as long as it kept giving us results, or at least having the desire and the plan to get the result, but today was a wake-up call. I used to blame the players and not Jose, but today you could clearly tell that the players were not on the same page as he was. If the players don't believe in what he wants them to do, how can we achieve anything?
Not only that, but using the ‘chairs’ comment he’s basically separated himself as an entity and attributed the failure to the club; even had the balls to point out the occasions he himself knocked out Manchester United with Porto and Real to achieve this effect. It’s not the language of someone who’s willingly taking responsibility for anything.
It’s not supposed to put him at risk of his job. It has put him directly back in the line of fire by pundits and fans. It courageous because just 48 hours ago everyone was praising him for his set up and victory against Liverpool, especially on the back of the come back from behind victories against Chelsea and Palace. It was all fine until yesterday’s result. Making himself the talking point deflects a lot of criticism towards his players.
He has been critical, no doubt. Even after the Chelsea and Palace come backs he had criticisms. But to criticize the players in public after the victory against Liverpool would be madness. I’m sure all the players are deflated as this game was more important than the previous weekend but we fecked it up. He has to get them to focus on next match while everyone focusses on Mourinho.
Means nothing ultimately. Admitting your mistakes is one thing, being able to change your ways is another. This won't prompt him to do anything.
Good points, and smart moves if true.
I'm not trying to antagonize you, but courage is just entirely the wrong word to use here. Courage implies this required some level of bravery from him. This is a no-lose situation for him. If the worst he faces from this statement is that he's in the line of fire of pundits and fans, I think Jose will gladly stomach that. Football pundits and football supporters are the two most fickle bunch of people on the planet, and judging by the reaction on here, he was back in the line of fire far long before he mouthed off in a press conference.
That's how I interpreted it.
It's no problem. The idea of seeing the word courage associated with Mourinho after a performance like that over 2 legs just about triggered me to death.
Ha! I can definitely see why. Don’t blame you
It's Mourinho who needs a bollocking first
No need for Russian spies when you got Agent Ander on the case on behalf of all the Spanish clubs.
May be he should realize that he's talking to United supporters, not Morinho fans.
I suppose it is progress unless you completely ignore the Moyes and LVG eras.
Not really. Moyes got to the same spot in the Champions League in one of his two seasons, and LVG also got us back into the CL only to go out in the meekest way possible. This wasn't a knock out tired against a top European side that we lost, it was Seville.
Umm... so one last-16 exit is evidence of this? Really? Where's the perspective? Or did you feel the same way even when we beat Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal this season? This when we sit second (5 clear of third) behind the most ludicrously extravagant club in the history of the game, on a run which is truly unprecedented?
Yup, he also used to get rid of all the unproven players, bringing in new and expensive players, driving them relentlessly to the absolute limit in the second season - leading to the meltdown in Season 3. Here, he's trusted the younger players, bought fewer than elsewhere, brought in academy players as well and gone slower - leading to Chelsea fans cribbing that he's "treating United far more like a long-term project than he ever did Chelsea". Had he ditched Rashford, Martial, Shaw, Lingard etc. as "too inconsistent right now", he'd possibly be challenging, but be vilified for breaking with "the United Way". Now, instead, he's being criticized for the obvious downside to a more gradual approach. Can't have it both ways...
Because it never happened to Fergie? Because Moyes and LvG were always in the hunt? Or because your expectations have been raised on account of Jose's performances since he took over? For me, the disappointment comes from the fact that I've started believing we can do better - and in the cold light of day, I will admit it's because of how Jose has done for us since taking over. We're no longer a sh*te team capable of nothing but boring sideways passing / endless aimless crossing. So when something goes against plan, suck it up and look at the bigger picture. To deny that we've progressed is strange when you take things in perspective.
