I despise how everything is 'hopefully' with him. Watching the interview he did with MUTV now and it irritates me no end.
Moyes So Far!
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He's in the perfect position, make a complete mess of his big shiny new job, gets paid millions for his dreadful work, even throws in some cheap digs at the greatest manager ever, yet still backed by a small section of fans. It's like a ****.He had a proper grin on his face though.
What's he trying now?
This may well have been posted on here before but a friend of mine, an Evertonian, sent me a link to a blog written when Moyes was still at Goodison. Some of the sentiments expressed in it are remarkably similar to those on here.
http://www.sos1878.co.uk/everton-fans/an-open-letter-to-david-moyes/
http://www.sos1878.co.uk/everton-fans/an-open-letter-to-david-moyes/
10 reasons why this is a load of bollocks.
1. Januzaj was already on the fringes of our squad before Moyes came along and now he gets credit for picking him?
2. Rooney would have gone if SAF was still manager. And then there's the absolute shitstorm that would have come down by selling him to Chelsea. He had to stay, and the large pay rise probably helped too. How is that down to Moyes? Rooney hasn't exactly kicked on from that either, has he?
3. Mata needed to sign for someone, being surplus to requirements under Mourinho. He thought he was coming to a team that would be at least top 4.
4. Kagawa's a problem? Been mismanaged all season like the rest of our team. Maybe Moyes should play him in his most effective posiition instead of leaving him out entirely. How is he finding his feet at Utd now? A few meaningless end of season games are pretty much irrelevant.
5. Not exactly a major coup, Anderson has been an overpriced, underperforming squad player for years and should have been sold long ago. And where's his replacement?
6. Welbeck has been played out of position in the past but still he isn't consistent enough. He's got the potential but has to show it a lot more to get ahead of RVP and Rooney. Whether he can is another thing.
7. Moyes has known for a while Rio and Vidic are getting on a bit? Newsflash, Dave, so have we all. So why not buy a new CB last summer? Smalling and Jones haven't exactly excelled as a partnetship either. Against WBA is one thing, but consistently playing well over a season is another. Injuries haven't helped but still, changing the CBs almost every game is the worst thing to do.
8. He knows our problems and his answer is Fellaini? Who thought he would be this bad? You'd think that the person who worked with him for the past few seasons and signed him for our club would know him and at least get something out of him, even if he couldn't do that with our players. But no. It's all well and good identifying players to sign but who failed to get those signings? And funny we are the only club with older players who are all 'over the hill'.
9. Excuses and more excuses. Don't take over this particular job and make them. Like for unacceptable performances and poor home defeats. If he didn't know the magnitude of the task he was taking on he's not the right man, is he? Great, he shoulders the blame cos that's his job and his responsibility. And blame it all on the players and not the clueless manager, Nick Atkin. How does this clown know the players wouldn't respond better to Mourinho?
10. So happy for Everton now that Moyes has taken them above us, last year's champions. Someone should remind him he's not working for them anymore. Just because he overachieved there, doesn't mean he will do it at a much bigger club with players who have won much more than he ever has. And this season proves he definitely cannot.
We're going to hopefully try and keep up our away record. No lie. He said hopefully try in the same breath. The guy is a parody of himself.What's he trying now?
Agreed, he done a fantastic job for them, he took them from the jaws of relegation and turned them into a half decent team. Going by the reception he received from the traveling Everton fans at Old Trafford, I think hes going to be for an uncomfortable evening.
Why have they turned against him anyway? Is it anything to do with the Fellaini transfer or/and the pursuit of Baines? Or had the grown sick of him during his last few seasons there?
He did do a lot for Everton but at the same time he kept them stagnant for a couple seasons. There are reasons for them to be angry but I do agree the boos are a bit eh.
Is this the thanks we get for taking Moyes off their hands? Ungrateful gits.
His comments of Baines/Fellaini were not that great but Everton fans are bunch of classless twats for booing him.
Everton fans booing him for doing a good job.
Whilst some of our fans cheer him for leading us into mediocrity.
Whilst some of our fans cheer him for leading us into mediocrity.
that's coz we're Amazing!! We have our moral high ground and were plumply parking our ars* on it while wearing our smug faces
I think a lot of Everton fans lost respect for him in his signing of Fellaini and pursuit of Baines because it was exactly the sort of thing he seemed to complain about when he was there. Now he's left, he's supposedly been doing exactly the sort of thing he moaned about, making him look like a bit of a hypocrite.
Not that it's right for them to boo him, but I can see why they've perhaps lost some respect for him.
Not that it's right for them to boo him, but I can see why they've perhaps lost some respect for him.
Oh I didn't say that because you believed in Moyes at all. Far from.
Only because it suits your narrative.
I remember a similar reaction to the 'Decline of Barcelona' thread, the 'Wigan/Martinez' thread etc. last season. Posters here can ridicule and abuse others without censure here if they don't agree on their rhetoric. This has been rampant in practically every Moyes thread this season, too.
Patronising and condescending remarks ("terrible post", "haven't a clue" etc.) are the norm here for having the audacity to support and believe in our manager.
Crazy, eh?
Ironically, a lot of United fans lost respect for him for going after the same duo
True.Ironically, a lot of United fans lost respect for him for going after the same duo
I looked it up there and he was very critical of City a few years back when they pursued Lescott. That's probably got a lot to do with it, since he's being a bit hypocritical in then pursuing his old sides players.
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He properly gave a rant when City bought Lescott. At least he got a good price off them while he was trying to be a cheapskate when we approached for Fellaini and Baines.True.
I looked it up there and he was very critical of City a few years back when they pursued Lescott. That's probably got a lot to do with it, since he's being a bit hypocritical in then pursuing his old sides players.
Yeah, it doesn't mean that he should be booed by them, but you can at least understand why they're not welcoming him with open arms.
It's the old verbal diarrhoea again. Martinez does it to Wigan and nothing is said. Moyes does it and he has to keep making comments about his old club.True.
I looked it up there and he was very critical of City a few years back when they pursued Lescott. That's probably got a lot to do with it, since he's being a bit hypocritical in then pursuing his old sides players.
It's depressing how short of ideas we look up front. A top four consisting of Rooney, kagawa, mata and nani
This is basically a victory for Moyes right now, it's his Everton side beating Sir Alex's OAPs.
Chris Smalling is a centre-back you utter fecking incompetent.
Not working Dave, time to change our approach/the system... Not just the personnel.
We started playing some nice stuff but we couldn't actually do anything with it. By contrast, Everton looked average at times compared to how they've played this season but took their chances. He needs to make a change to this at half-time.
Another pathetic performance. Creating absolutely nothing, constantly sideways passing. Look so poor defensively too, Everton should have more goals. The tactics are, unsurprisingly, not working.
I asked this in the match thread, but other than the 1 win against Arsenal, have we lead against any of the games against the top-6?
I asked this in the match thread, but other than the 1 win against Arsenal, have we lead against any of the games against the top-6?
Dominated possession but no end product.
Good question actually. I know we haven't won any of them bar Arsenal, but come to think of it I don't think we've led any either. Terrible.
We've done it numerous times this season.
We never create any space in the oppositions half because we are terrified of inviting them into our own half.
If only we can become Everton as soon as he leaves...
areeee we arsenal in disguiseeee.
I hope he resigns at half time.
This will be it. This has to be it.
Also we are still yet to start the same first 11 twice this season. He has no plan. No consistency. No ideas. He's just useless.
Also we are still yet to start the same first 11 twice this season. He has no plan. No consistency. No ideas. He's just useless.
What a shitty season this has been. Summer can't come quick enough
So this is heading to 1 win out of 12 against the opposition above us, deary me.
Moyesie can set the team up well, but when you have a centre back who for some reason is sitting on the floor and chooses to handle it, what can you do?
Martinez tactically outclassed him in that first half. Here was me thinking Moyes was supposed to be one of the best tactical coaches around, going by what some have said on here.
So do millions of United fans...
NAIL.ON.HEAD
If anyone is willing to trust Moyes with 200 million, they're proper mad.
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