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That's what they have been saying all along. If Enzo Fernandez's transfer cost 120m+, then 80m for Mudryk is a super hot deal.Tweet
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They want Antony monies
For an Antony and Enzo, there is a Gakpo.That's what they have been saying all along. If Enzo Fernandez's transfer cost 120m+, then 80m for Mudryk is a super hot deal.
Different situations, PSV needed the money.For an Antony and Enzo, there is a Gakpo.
Shahtkar is using the potential Enzo Fernandez transfer fee and Antony fee as baseline. Very unlikely for arsenal to close the deal. Just move on.I still think Arsenal will get Mudryk. He also seems to want Arsenal
Boehly seems to have serious FOMO. Bids for anyone Arsenal, City, United are remotely linked toBoehly isn’t acting like a businessman trying to turn a profit at Chelsea, he’s acting like a rich cnut having a bit of fun running a football club
Their transfer strategy resembles City after their takeover, where they just hoovered up any promising talent they could convince to join
the issue is hes better on the left, and yet again we have 2 young and great options already. it’s a shame but you can’t have everything.Mudryk looks electric. Far more the type of player we need than Antony.
This guy is amazing. Man the PL is gonna be LOADED with young talent !! Martin, Haaland, Mudyk, Ganacho, Martinez, and a lot more of these Eastern Europeans, Argentina/Nordic/Spanish talent coming. A LOT MORE. Give me a Haaland over Mbappe and Vini JR types(lack of professionalism high maintenance headaches ) any day of the week!
Very weird comment.
I’ve only seen him twice.Looks like we are close to getting this done. Not sure about the fee could be anywhere between 70m - 100m.
Either way its a big gamble atleast his salary will be low(ish).
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Antony beats Mudryk in all of the metrics in that graphic. Some obvious ones like assists, progressive passes and open play key passes but I have no idea what ‘attack value added’ is supposed to mean.Can someone explain this without me needing to break my neck?
Honestly if he is on a similar level to Martinelli it would be more than justified as in the current market we would not be selling him for under 100m. The risk is he could be worse much worse.I’ve only seen him twice.
I find it a bit mental your spending that on him when he’s probably a similar level to Martinelli.
I’d rather you got him to help with your title challenge. Anyone who’s choosing to go to Chelsea at the minute are obviously just going for the money, they’re awful. Most likely to miss out on top 4 so they can’t offer Cl football next season. That’s probably why they’re signing all these players now, they’ll struggle in the summer without CL. One thing yous have over them is more class. Chelsea are out here thinking it’s FM, taking other teams targets.Unless Mudryk himself pushes for Arsenal and only Arsenal, I think Chelsea will land him as they're more likely to meet Shaktar's demands. Shame. I hope Arteta has other targets as we desperately need more attacking options. The Newcastle game was a perfect example - we had no creative/attacking options from the bench.
It wasn't meant as a dig at Martinelli, it was more that I don't think he improves your side enough to justify spending 70 - 100m when it could be spent elsewhere.Honestly if he is on a similar level to Martinelli it would be more than justified as in the current market we would not be selling him for under 100m. The risk is he could be worse much worse.
He has great potential but very little experience/exposure so he could turn out to be someone like Gervinho or like Neymar (both extremes are unlikely but possible) only time will tell but the range is huge.
Understand that aspect of it, but we do need something, our bench options aren't great, we had to play all 3 of Saka, Martinelli and Nketiah Vs Oxford because Arteta just doesn't trust any of the other options, bar Smith-Rowe who has been out for months.It wasn't meant as a dig at Martinelli, it was more that I don't think he improves your side enough to justify spending 70 - 100m when it could be spent elsewhere.
I genuinely can't work out why it seems like 90% of teams have better LW options than RW options because only 10% of players are left-footed, but people act like it shouldn't impact transfer valuations at all. Maybe it's Messi's fault.Tweet
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They want Antony monies
Yup exactly... Antony plays a different position so its just a dumb argument on that count aswell. Here the comparisons should be Gapko/Diaz. Honestly Liverpool got a good deal on both it would seem.I genuinely can't work out why it seems like 90% of teams have better LW options than RW options because only 10% of players are left-footed, but people act like it shouldn't impact transfer valuations at all. Maybe it's Messi's fault.
No, my point was if he turns out as good aswell then its great, I fear it could be a worse aswell because its a big stepup. 6 month ago even Brighton were wondering if they should take the risk at less than half the cost and ended up not pulling the trigger. Basically the risk reward ratio is not great and this is when i really like the player from little I have seen him play.It wasn't meant as a dig at Martinelli, it was more that I don't think he improves your side enough to justify spending 70 - 100m when it could be spent elsewhere.
It's comparing their CL seasons analytics, Mudryk this year, Antony last year. The guy running the analytics account is an arsenal fan. He doesn't rate Mudryk much and had people asking for the comparison.Can someone explain this without me needing to break my neck?
I don't need any metric to know that Mudryk does not worth 80m. He is at best a 50m player, which is already overpriced. I don't know Arteta and Edu's plan with Mudryk, because you don't spend that kind of money for bench option.It's comparing their CL seasons analytics, Mudryk this year, Antony last year. The guy running the analytics account is an arsenal fan. He doesn't rate Mudryk much and had people asking for the comparison.
Antony beats Mudryk in every aspect basically, it is percentile rank in the CL games out of all CL players that season. The slices for the goals seem to be glitched though, (npxG is non penalty expected goals), and Antony should be below Mudryk for non pen goals but above for the xG. It's saying that Mudryk is a bit underwhelming and had a hot finishing run in the CL groups this year and that's about it, whereas Antony genuinely looked like an elite player in the CL groups.
With our history with attacking players? You're having a laugh mate.This guy will be great if he went to the Gooners or Chavs and immediately shite if he came here, same old story
Well true but the usual case would be if he plays for someone else he is tops, if he came here he would be the shits. Antony has 4 goals in 8 appearances and people are shit talking about him ffsWith our history with attacking players? You're having a laugh mate.
Yeah it's very typical football fandom. Chelsea fans have been openly calling for Pulisic to be sold for a while, but when there were stories of Liverpool being interested, they were suddenly worried about him going there and exploding into an elite forward.Well true but the usual case would be if he plays for someone else he is tops, if he came here he would be the shits. Antony has 4 goals in 8 appearances and people are shit talking about him ffs
Yeah I don't really see why they push for him so much. I don't think he is better than Martinelli so.... Upgrading on ESR for depth, just not needed.I don't need any metric to know that Mudryk does not worth 80m. He is at best a 50m player, which is already overpriced. I don't know Arteta and Edu's plan with Mudryk, because you don't spend that kind of money for bench option.
I think he'll eventually send Martinelli to the bench. He's more talented in my opinion, but Arteta is probably thinking it would be good to have some rotational options rather than relying on Saka and Martinelli every single game. They'll be incredibly fatigued and run out of steam by March probably if Arsenal don't bring in any reinforcements.I don't need any metric to know that Mudryk does not worth 80m. He is at best a 50m player, which is already overpriced. I don't know Arteta and Edu's plan with Mudryk, because you don't spend that kind of money for bench option.
Antony better in possession, but Mudryk is the far more dangerous 1 on 1 player on the wing. It's a risky move, but his pace is really something, bit like a skinnier, weaker Bale when he's 1 on 1 against a defender. For the let's say 70M it seems like it would cost, I don't love it, but IF Arsenal think Martinelli's tenacity and other qualities mean he'll be their best #9, it's not crazy.It's comparing their CL seasons analytics, Mudryk this year, Antony last year. The guy running the analytics account is an arsenal fan. He doesn't rate Mudryk much and had people asking for the comparison.
Antony beats Mudryk in every aspect basically, it is percentile rank in the CL games out of all CL players that season. The slices for the goals seem to be glitched though, (npxG is non penalty expected goals), and Antony should be below Mudryk for non pen goals but above for the xG. It's saying that Mudryk is a bit underwhelming and had a hot finishing run in the CL groups this year and that's about it, whereas Antony genuinely looked like an elite player in the CL groups.