Danny1982
Sectarian Hipster
gooDevil, I'm really not replying to you or anybody with those videos.. I'm just happy, and want to keep these memories together here so it will be easy to watch them (and live these moments) again..
You're welcome.. More to come..Thanks for the vids danny.
Interesting theory, certainly matches what I've seen happen to the game since Jordan retired from the Bulls the 2nd time. I'm glad someone else remembers Harold 'Baby Jordan' Miner, what a waste of excitement he was!Egad. That post isn't talking about something as simple as basic human nature. The Next Jordan angle is a single (and relatively small) part of the bigger picture.
We're talking about the NBA's very specific strategy during the immediate post-Jordan era as it relates to the league having a clear-cut plan to put A "Superstar" on Every Team as opposed to the previous situation, where most franchises had to wait until the Big Teams came to town to move tickets. We're talking about money. About owners being told to pour money into their franchises with the supposed promise of nightly marquee matchups to sell at the ticket office. If you were born in '82 you should be able to remember that time period when Hardaway, Carter, McGrady, Hill, Bryant, Stackhouse, Miner, Rider, (you can pretty much go on forever) etc. were all touted at some point or another as the Next Jordan.
Again, just in case, this isn't about foul shot stats, or refs influencing games, or any of the other side-effects that arose because of the rule changes. It's about how the temptation of Big Money shaped the league's attitude towards the rules of the game: 1. give the facilities a "family friendly" facelift, 2. give each franchise a ticket-selling "Star" 3. take certain measures to try and ensure those ticket-sellers were on the court as much as possible.
Read between the lines. It's about a league full of teams who were promised 25-12ers, knowing that they were eventually going to be forced to overpay players, and who thus demanded that the league at least do something to ease that blow.
Not so much anymore. But during that five/six year window from 2000-2005-ish, most definitely yes. The league was on a Jordan-high, being courted left and right by potential sponsors. Sporting goods brands who'd seen the Jordan Effect at work were talking to the league. Wall Street was talking to the league. What they were saying was, "We'd maybe like to help you grow but not if you're only going to have four or five big teams and one or two Jordans to somehow split between ourselves. Come to us with a more ambitious plan and we can talk." The NBA was a lot like the long overlooked little brother (to baseball and Am. football) that suddenly was being approached by all the right people.
Anyhow, bottom line, the weak fouls/isolation aspect of the game is not going away any time soon. No owner wants to overpay his 'franchise' players just to see them get hacked down and out for weeks at a time. At the same time they've backed themselves into a corner regarding salaries by agreeing to the "Star on every team" principle, even though those players might not actually be stars. Teams have run themselves into the red with the above-mentioned promises that never materialized, only to be told "Well you agreed to it at the time."
Bits and pieces of this we all know, but a lot of people don't seem to realize that the fouls/isolation aspect of the game is directly tied to the money situation and no owner wants to change it, largely out of spite. No one wants to see a rule change expose their star player as anything but. Or turn back the clock to a time when you had to wait for Boston/LA/NY/Chicago to come to town to draw a crowd.
You might want to consider signing up for a utube account, where you can create a playlist you can access at a click of a button, instead of this thread that will disappear into the memory hole after not too long!gooDevil, I'm really not replying to you or anybody with those videos.. I'm just happy, and want to keep these memories together here so it will be easy to watch them (and live these moments) again..
Of course Magic's career was cut short by illness, in his 12 seasons he won 5 titles. By Jordan's 12th season, he had 4 titles. All credit to Jordan for going on to win two more, of course, just trying illustrate how great Magic was.Did I miss it when Jordan did that?![]()
Okay, I should've stopped you when you posted this, but you're getting into spamming territory now. Create a youtube playlist or bookmark them all in your browser if you're looking for a place to store memories. Or create a draft private message with links to all these videos. Create an HTML doc on your desktop with each of these videos embedded. Don't use this place as your personal video portal.gooDevil, I'm really not replying to you or anybody with those videos.. I'm just happy, and want to keep these memories together here so it will be easy to watch them (and live these moments) again..
You got to be kidding me! Spamming?! Did you even bother to watch those clips? You think I'm posting random clips?? Those are some of the greatest performances in the history of the NBA. And it's not only for me to watch, it's the perfect ending for a thread like this, summing up the best moments of the season.. For any neutral basketball fan those clips are much more enjoyable to see than that conspiracy drivel that took about half the thread.. And now a few clips (that other people enjoyed as well) and I'm spamming?!Okay, I should've stopped you when you posted this, but you're getting into spamming territory now. Create a youtube playlist or bookmark them all in your browser if you're looking for a place to store memories. Or create a draft private message with links to all these videos. Create an HTML doc on your desktop with each of these videos embedded. Don't use this place as your personal video portal.
Done.Spoiler the YouTube clips.
Flooding I should have said. The way you're implying the suggestions I gave were motivated by any hatred of James and the Heat is beyond insulting to me. I don't even hate them. I didn't bother asking you to stop when you only had a few videos.You got to be kidding me! Spamming?! Did you even bother to watch those clips? You think I'm posting random clips?? Those are some of the greatest performances in the history of the NBA. And it's not only for me to watch, it's the perfect ending for a thread like this, summing up the best moments of the season.. For any neutral basketball fan those clips are much more enjoyable to see than that conspiracy drivel that took about half the thread.. And now a few clips (that other people enjoyed as well) and I'm spamming?!
Obviously, this thread is not for everyone.
EDIT: And by the way, the way you're implying that I'm going to be the only one watching those clips (that I should keep them on my computer) is beyond insulting. You may hate James and the Heat. A few more posters here might hate James and the Heat as well, but I'm pretty sure many others WILL enjoy watching these clips and living these moments again..
To be fair, Americans cheat at everything: banking, counting votes, marriage, insider trading, starting wars, why not the NBA?You got to be kidding me! Spamming?! Did you even bother to watch those clips? You think I'm posting random clips?? Those are some of the greatest performances in the history of the NBA. And it's not only for me to watch, it's the perfect ending for a thread like this, summing up the best moments of the season.. For any neutral basketball fan those clips are much more enjoyable to see than that conspiracy drivel that took about half the thread.. And now a few clips (that other people enjoyed as well) and I'm spamming?!
Obviously, this thread is not for everyone.
EDIT: And by the way, the way you're implying that I'm going to be the only one watching those clips (that I should keep them on my computer) is beyond insulting. You may hate James and the Heat. A few more posters here might hate James and the Heat as well, but I'm pretty sure many others WILL enjoy watching these clips and living these moments again..
To be honest when Shaq was sent to the line it was unclear if the refs were trying to help the Lakers, or the other team called for the foul...To be fair, Americans cheat at everything: banking, counting votes, marriage, insider trading, starting wars, why not the NBA?
I used to enjoy Shaq getting the 'star' treatment in LA, he could just plow through anyone and get a foul call, I'd laugh out loud at the poor guy on the other team who did absolutely nothing while being elbowed in the face then called for a foul himself.
Not very amusing when it's not your team though!
Don't forget to put an asterisk next to this championship, Danny, for a strike shortened season.![]()
Okay, I should've stopped you when you posted this, but you're getting into spamming territory now. Create a youtube playlist or bookmark them all in your browser if you're looking for a place to store memories. Or create a draft private message with links to all these videos. Create an HTML doc on your desktop with each of these videos embedded. Don't use this place as your personal video portal.
This basically. I dont watch a lot of NBA so appreciate the vids that danny is posting. specially the top 10 play ones.You got to be kidding me! Spamming?! Did you even bother to watch those clips? You think I'm posting random clips?? Those are some of the greatest performances in the history of the NBA. And it's not only for me to watch, it's the perfect ending for a thread like this, summing up the best moments of the season.. For any neutral basketball fan those clips are much more enjoyable to see than that conspiracy drivel that took about half the thread.. And now a few clips (that other people enjoyed as well) and I'm spamming?!
Obviously, this thread is not for everyone.
EDIT: And by the way, the way you're implying that I'm going to be the only one watching those clips (that I should keep them on my computer) is beyond insulting. You may hate James and the Heat. A few more posters here might hate James and the Heat as well, but I'm pretty sure many others WILL enjoy watching these clips and living these moments again..
The asterisk for a shortened season never makes sense for me in the NBA. The only possible argument is injuries from the condensed schedule, but every team is subject to the same condensed schedule, so I don't buy that. The playoffs are just as long no matter how long the regular season is. With an 82 game season, they would've done the same thing in the playoffs.At least this one is true..
Jordan would've just convinced himself that the world was out to get him just so he could have a reason to win. I'm sure Lebron was motivated somewhat by a desire to prove people wrong, but I don't think anyone compares to Jordan when it comes to boxing yourself into a corner of bitter hate.I don't think Jordan or Bryant are humble enough to come out and say the kind of things James said this season, or play the way Lebron played this season to win a championship.
You may well be right, but my skepticism is earned from watching the Pacers draft waaaaay too many huge centers that turned out to be as useful as a fart in a space suit. It's hard to argue with speed and height, but this is a guy who averaged 6.6 pts and 7.1 rebounds as a senior, I could find you 50 guys with those stats who are seniors, much less among younger centers. He did shoot a very impressive 60% last season, but only took 4.3 shots a game. His .5 assists, .5 steals and .9 blocks per game make him seem rather one dimensional and hardly suggests a dangerous defender. With such a deep draft and so many exciting players still left, I thought they'd get more than what looks to be a physical rebounder who will scrape some bench minutes.The Pacers picked a 7 ft white guy with a 41 in vertical(highest in the draft, no one else over 6' 7 has ever jumped that high since they started tracking it), who was the quickest big guy at the camp. He also doesn't have the health issues of Perry Jones III. Miles will be a solid role player because he's an athletic monster.
You guys should be thrilled to get Thomas Robinson, he should make a great pairing with Cousins. Trading away the 2nd round pick was a bit odd, surely there was a defender in there you could have used.Good: Throbinson
Bad: Trading away an early second round pick for cash when the team is already at the salary floor and needs all the help it can get.