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stevoc said:
Well OT is part of Trafford Park isn't it?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Trafford+Park,+Stretford,+Manchester/@53.4668889,-2.3265608,7267m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x487bae0d9b905243:0xd5ce06bdd0c21068!8m2!3d53.4707236!4d-2.3230574!16s/m/027v722?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMxMi4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw==

And besides according to the renders the majority of the new stadium will sit where the freight terminal is currently.
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Google.

No, Old Trafford, the area where the stadium is located, is not part of Trafford Park, although it is located in the same borough, Trafford, and borders Trafford Park.

As for the new stadium I think the majority of it will be built on the car park.
 
Big Andy said:
Amazon apparently interested, £750m over 10 years.
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Those are wow numbers. You cannot turn that down - 1/3 of the stadium paid off over a decade just through sponsorship.

TV revenue growth had really bottomed out - so the new stadium give us back the massive advantages that we used to have before other clubs started building new stadiums.
 
Looks fantastic, but will await the fine print, e.g. will there be easier access and egress (outside and inside) the stadium, for all; will the seats be bigger, more leg room; will there be standing only sections; will there be wide screens and good messaging/sound systems available; will there be decent food available at reasonable prices; will the toilet facilities be adequate.... and most importantly will we have a top of the league team, up for everything, every season???

If the above comes true, it will still be the 'Theatre of Dreams'.
 
G97 said:
Okay so let’s say it is. Would you be against being so to win the league? I certainly wouldn’t. Ferguson was extremely petty throughout his whole career, more so than anyone.
I’m not sure why you are so hung up on petty behaviour being such an abominable crime anyway. In a world where Arsenal have been labelled as cheats on the pitch, City are called cheats off it and Chelsea being called ‘Oil club’ There’s a lot worse things to be called than petty.
You’ll never win anything playing nice.
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You do realise that there isn’t a permanent away section. During FA cup games for example we have to provide a larger allocation.

So do you have a large crap area that done home fans have to use when the allocation is smaller?

What about during concerts, rugby league finals?
 
Remember the geese said:
Agreed. In a sense, it would be foolish to turn down the money. We'd be putting ourselves at a rather unnecessary disadvantage. Wonder what the chances are of getting away with 'The Sir Alex Ferguson Stadium sponsored by Amazon'?
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I could see ‘Prime Old Trafford’. Similar to the Spotify Camp Nou.

Prime has been where Amazon have pushed into sports broadcasting with premier league matches, NHL games and also some sports documentaries. It would make sense to associate Prime with Sports more than the Amazon label.
 
DRJosh said:
Looks like we’ll be lifting our next league title at the new stadium
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Well if anybody thinks this will get delivred withing 5years then they should Wake up. Planning, permissions, finacing alone will take more than 3 years. Not to mention govermental support which seems to be a condtion to Press enter on this project. And then you have your protest and actuall construction. IMHO we we might see a new Stadium 7-8 years from now.
 
Big Andy said:
Amazon apparently interested, £750m over 10 years.
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Bright_Eyes said:
How does that usually work anyway? After that ten years can we change the name or get another sponsor?
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From no credible sources bar twitter talk. As for naming rights, yes they can change the name but most renew to be honest.

The £750mil is a crazy figure. Barca only got like £250mil for 4 years for everything. Allianz just renewed for 10 years for 130mil euros. Sofi is $625 million over 20 years, the Arsenal/Emirates deal is only worth like £50 million a season and like Barca that is for everthing. Then you have Mr Levy at Spurs wanting £200 million for his stadiums name, but never getting it.

So yeah unless we also have Amazon on our shirts, training tops and stadium. I don't see us getting £750 million from then, let alone anyone. Not that Amazon needs the exposure either.
 
sparx99 said:
I could see ‘Prime Old Trafford’. Similar to the Spotify Camp Nou.

Prime has been where Amazon have pushed into sports broadcasting with premier league matches, NHL games and also some sports documentaries. It would make sense to associate Prime with Sports more than the Amazon label.
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'Prime Old Trafford' actually has a decent ring to it. It reads/sounds like a reference to a new and improved Old Trafford, which is precisely what it would be.
 
Victorian values said:
As they are digging down 15 metres below ground, it won't be looking as tall on the approach as otherwise, should still be very impressive, but not as high as if it was built from the ground up.
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Are rthere any credible links to information that says they are digging down 15m?

That sounds highly unlikely, one of the reasons there is such a big slope at Old Trafford was because they raised the pitch to accomodate the undersoil heating and drainage pipes because the couldn't go down further, that suggest the liit they can go down is way less than 15m
 
Red in STL said:
Are rthere any credible links to information that says they are digging down 15m?

That sounds highly unlikely, one of the reasons there is such a big slope at Old Trafford was because they raised the pitch to accomodate the undersoil heating and drainage pipes because the couldn't go down further, that suggest the liit they can go down is way less than 15m
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15m would suggest it would be well below the water table, wonder how much it affects the area.
 
Red in STL said:
Are rthere any credible links to information that says they are digging down 15m?

That sounds highly unlikely, one of the reasons there is such a big slope at Old Trafford was because they raised the pitch to accomodate the undersoil heating and drainage pipes because the couldn't go down further, that suggest the liit they can go down is way less than 15m
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Yes - this was part of the media pack that was released at the stadium announcement last week - see image below:



The pitch will be 15.9m below ground level.
 
Spoony said:
Google.

No, Old Trafford, the area where the stadium is located, is not part of Trafford Park, although it is located in the same borough, Trafford, and borders Trafford Park.
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Fair enough mate.

Spoony said:
As for the new stadium I think the majority of it will be built on the car park.
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I don't know mate you could be right. But from the aerial shots of the new stadium the footprint of it is massive. I think it could cover a lot of both.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/azonzh4yf1oe1.png
 
Ian Reus said:
Would we be allowed to put the away section under the pitch?
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Joking aside though; has the away section been mentioned or decided?
Guessing the away allocation goes up. Risking putting them on the top tier.
 
Go past the headline which is all a bit obvious and there are a few interesting bits of info here:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...d-question-manchester-uniteds-vision-31196720

Apparently the originally Wharfside development project proposed was a much smaller scheme for 5k homes. Under it nothing would change for United except some of our neighbours.

It's United's project (and the land we and Freightliner own) that's key to the bigger development project.

Andy Burnham says the Freightliner move would need about £300m of public money. I don't know if that includes the money needed for upgrading the train lines that are needed by the new freight yard near Warrington, it sounds too cheap. I doubt it includes the upgrade to the Manchester passenger routes either.

Absolute bargain if it does of course but I'd love to see some more of the numbers if anyone runs into it. At any rate that's the infrastructure stuff that they're trying to get the government to support.
 
Spoony said:
Yeah it's probably 50/50, Steve. Massive indeed... The interior/stands will be huge. Vertical, close to pitch. Taller than San Siro (47m) and Camp Nou(48)
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The interior is what I like most about the new design. It'll be intimidating, I've been to the San Siro and that place is huge.
 
stevoc said:
This is a new stadium, it's not Old Trafford. Barca are renovating the Nou Camp hence why it's retaining it's name.
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The Emirates Old Trafford is a five to ten minutes walk away from the current ground maybe a couple of minutes more to the new ground (& iirc the "official" name for the current ground is Manchester United Football Ground) so something like the "Ineos Arena in Old Trafford" would be my bet
 
Victorian values said:
The Emirates Old Trafford is a five to ten minutes walk away from the current ground maybe a couple of minutes more to the new ground (& iirc the "official" name for the current ground is Manchester United Football Ground) so something like the "Ineos Arena in Old Trafford" would be my bet
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Is it really?
 
stevoc said:
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The club will probably do something aong those lines to generate income. Hopefully it's just renting the land and not selling it off, I think the club should always be in control of all the land around the stadium.
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We should build a few hotels so we can sell them to ourselves if money gets short in the future…….
 
Remember the geese said:
Agreed. In a sense, it would be foolish to turn down the money. We'd be putting ourselves at a rather unnecessary disadvantage. Wonder what the chances are of getting away with 'The Sir Alex Ferguson Stadium sponsored by Amazon'?
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The Sir Alex(a) Stadium.

Everyone's a winner.
 
Infra-red said:
Yes - this was part of the media pack that was released at the stadium announcement last week - see image below:



The pitch will be 15.9m below ground level.
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This is how the Stade de France is. It looks amazing when you enter the stadium as your mind isn't expecting the colossal size from the outside, but as anyone who's been to a 6N game there in January or early Feb can tell you, it's bloody freezing as a spectator and they've had issues with the pitch being too iced over to play on.

I'm sure there are solutions to these problems and they'll be taken into account for a stadium of this price and standard.
 
Infra-red said:
"Amazon Arena" sounds horribly Americanised.

It'll surely be called " *insert brand name here* Stadium / Park ", like most football stadiums in the UK.
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It annoys me because I'm pedantic and an arena and a stadium aren't really the same thing. Arena usually implies an indoor venue which is geared more towards music.
 
Red in STL said:
Are rthere any credible links to information that says they are digging down 15m?

That sounds highly unlikely, one of the reasons there is such a big slope at Old Trafford was because they raised the pitch to accomodate the undersoil heating and drainage pipes because the couldn't go down further, that suggest the liit they can go down is way less than 15m
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They couldn’t go down any further in the existing stadium but a new one will have no problems
 
Red in STL said:
Are rthere any credible links to information that says they are digging down 15m?

That sounds highly unlikely, one of the reasons there is such a big slope at Old Trafford was because they raised the pitch to accomodate the undersoil heating and drainage pipes because the couldn't go down further, that suggest the liit they can go down is way less than 15m
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In the press pack somewhere
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Sam Luckhurst posted it.
 
Although only a small point in the grand scheme of things, I’m glad the actual capacity is 104,000. Gives us 100k+ sell outs, rather than an annoying 99,500!
 
711 said:
I keep thinking it is tantalisingly close to Barcelona's.
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Yeah why not just go for biggest in europe.

I think we'll have the highest average attendance in world football though, so we can legitimately say we're the biggest club in the world.

Does anyone know when we started calling ourselves the biggest club in the world?

Was it in the 90s? Or was it said in the 60s or 70s or 80s?
 
Speako said:
Although only a small point in the grand scheme of things, I’m glad the actual capacity is 104,000. Gives us 100k+ sell outs, rather than an annoying 99,500!
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Is this with executive boxes? I've seen a few people post this but is this official?

I don't remember it being in the press release last week.
 
sparx99 said:
I could see ‘Prime Old Trafford’. Similar to the Spotify Camp Nou.

Prime has been where Amazon have pushed into sports broadcasting with premier league matches, NHL games and also some sports documentaries. It would make sense to associate Prime with Sports more than the Amazon label.
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Maybe Prime Park or Manchester Prime Park?
 
I loved the concept art and the whole pitch of it. I do hope we get decent sponsorship to cover some costs. The thing is, however skeptical some of us are with INEOS, they are as desperate as us to make it work. They need a win.
 
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