I tend to believe you can't really know how someone will handle the pressure and also the pressure is largely a symptom of results, not a cause, so if Gallardo is as good tactically as many say I'd be fine with his appointment.it’s funny because we’re talking about one of the biggest clubs in south America’s history, with all the pressure that means, those leagues are not even in the same league when it comes to that, and the media coverage is also times bigger.
It’s kind of ridiculous trying to compare Europeans to South American leagues because here you need to rebuild the team every single season, that alone is harder than in Europe, with the pressure to win being way harder. There’s no way a guy like Ole would last 6 months at river plate or boca juniors with all the embarrassment United has suffered.
so apart from being a tactical genius, hes already prepared to deal with pressure and expectations.
simeone for example got sacked from river plate, he left the team in the last position of the league.
But it’s the way someone said it before here, he’ll go to another club (and it’s probably going to be a big one) and here people will be wondering why they didn’t consider him.
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I don’t think he’s been mentioned much due to the fact there’s no chance he leaves the Spain job before the World Cup. If it wasn’t for that then he’d be a very desirable option.He’s not been mentioned much but Luis Enrique would be one I would like.
Can’t see many negatives. He is a very good manager.
I think most people would be over the moon with him. It just seems practically implausible.He’s not been mentioned much but Luis Enrique would be one I would like.
Can’t see many negatives. He is a very good manager.
If Ten Hag, Zidane and Poch are the top 3 candidates right now..He’s not been mentioned much but Luis Enrique would be one I would like.
Can’t see many negatives. He is a very good manager.
He was my #1 choice until Romano said it was his dream to coach the Spanish NT, and it would be impossible prise him away from his dream job before the WC.He’s not been mentioned much but Luis Enrique would be one I would like.
Can’t see many negatives. He is a very good manager.
That's exactly why Conte would have been made sense for 18 months. Well, such an incompetent management.If Ten Hag, Zidane and Poch are the top 3 candidates right now..
If we're looking for a new manager in 2023 the top candidates will probably be Enrique, Rose and maybe Mancini.
Yep it's exactly why I wanted us to go for Conte because, if it didnt work out in his usual timeline, we'd have still had plenty of good options. Same as if we somehow got Zidane now of course.That's exactly why Conte would have been made sense for 18 months. Well, such an incompetent management.
The board doesn't think that far ahead.Yep it's exactly why I wanted us to go for Conte because, if it didnt work out in his usual timeline, we'd have still had plenty of good options. Same as if we somehow got Zidane now of course.
Yup, that's why I essentially gave up hope for anything this season or next when they let him go to Tottenham.That's exactly why Conte would have been made sense for 18 months. Well, such an incompetent management.
Where you getting that from?Sounds like the board has settled for Zidane starting next season.
By the sound of it Ronaldo had a say about this if some reports are to be believed.
If things really start going south, then Bruce would be the perfect interim manager until season ends.
Ideas like this make no sense. Why would a top manager like Rodgers give up the financial security that he has at Leicester to come to United for 18 months? These guys are not robots. They're not going to come here for the sake of it. He'll want a medium term contract like any other self-respecting manager and rightly so.If it has to be Brendan, we should try offering him an 18 month contract with an automatic extension that's triggered by a trophy win and/or an 80+ point league finish.
That way, we can easily clear the decks the summer after next if he turns out to be dud. But keep him if he's actually any good. The last thing we need is to be lumbered with another 6 year contract like an albatross hanging around our necks.
No way. Zidane I would like on a short term contract or Ragnick - either can be a stop gap for a season or two but doesn’t make sense waiting until the summer when we may as well get Ten Haag then if he wants the job.Sounds like the board has settled for Zidane starting next season.
By the sound of it Ronaldo had a say about this if some reports are to be believed.
If things really start going south, then Bruce would be the perfect interim manager until season ends.
That's a pretty daft conclusion to come to at this stage.Pleasantly surprised to see so many votes for ten Hag. Thought he was the hipster choice. We have to get him in, none of the other options are good enough, Luis Enrique has only succeeded at Barcelona and only because of Messi, Neymar, Suarez.
National team performance shouldn't be considered at all - look what happened with LvG, he was destined to end as a disaster for Spurs but we hijacked it and they ended up with Pochettino.
That's my humble opinion. What we desperately need is some semblance of coaching, Conte is already gone. I'm not too crazy about Zidane as I think he is good man manager but as a coach I feel he lacks the nous of Guardiola or Klopp or Tuchel and I think rebuilding Manchester United is too much of a task for him. Luis Enrique has only done well at Barcelona with that front three. There may be many other managers or coaches out there but IMO ten Hag will coach us well.That's a pretty daft conclusion to come to at this stage.
We don't need to rebuild.That's my humble opinion. What we desperately need is some semblance of coaching, Conte is already gone. I'm not too crazy about Zidane as I think he is good man manager but as a coach I feel he lacks the nous of Guardiola or Klopp or Tuchel and I think rebuilding Manchester United is too much of a task for him. Luis Enrique has only done well at Barcelona with that front three. There may be many other managers or coaches out there but IMO ten Hag will coach us well.
Points is interesting but I think reality will smack us in the face if we are that specific. We could have a Liverpool like injury crisis for example or a COVID type fixture congestion will mean less PPG on average. (City, Pool dropped from their 100 pt per season pace to a more reasonable 86).If it has to be Brendan, we should try offering him an 18 month contract with an automatic extension that's triggered by a trophy win and/or an 80+ point league finish.
That way, we can easily clear the decks the summer after next if he turns out to be dud. But keep him if he's actually any good. The last thing we need is to be lumbered with another 6 year contract like an albatross hanging around our necks.
Pochettino and Rodgers are both good coaches. You can't just dismiss all the rest and say only Ten Hag is good enough, because he coaches in a third rate league and isn't proven week in week out, going against top coaches and good teams. The two I've mentioned had relative success with second rate teams in the toughest league in the world. Anybody that thinks Poch is a failure because he didn't win a league or CL with fecking Spurs is an idiot, quite frankly.That's my humble opinion. What we desperately need is some semblance of coaching, Conte is already gone. I'm not too crazy about Zidane as I think he is good man manager but as a coach I feel he lacks the nous of Guardiola or Klopp or Tuchel and I think rebuilding Manchester United is too much of a task for him. Luis Enrique has only done well at Barcelona with that front three. There may be many other managers or coaches out there but IMO ten Hag will coach us well.
Who do people think can compete with klopp, guardiola and tuchel? Or anyone that matches them tactically and plays good football? There can’t be many out there that could but I think there are a few that have potential to be one of the best managers/coaches… ten Haag has got to be one of them and even klopp said he’s one of the most exciting coaches in Europe at the minute. Are there any German managers that can come and do a job with us and compete with the best in the prem? I like the style that most Germans play which is attacking and front foot football
I termed it badly, what I mean by rebuild was we have to redo the coaching entirely. There is absolutely nothing in terms of coaching or our players playing like a team for a long time, the new manager has to do all that. Zidane had the advantage of having a well coached side and a well stocked side as well.We don't need to rebuild.
We have an absolutely world-class squad as is.
Do not be fooled into seeing how badly we are playing - give this set of players to a good manager and you'll see just how good we are.
If Madrid had this same squad, they'd be targeting a CL trophy.
Rodgers is a good manager but I don't like him for his Liverpool connection and for the fact that he is kind of like a David Brent, too much talk. I know its a silly reason but that's what I feel.Pochettino and Rodgers are both good coaches. You can't just dismiss all the rest and say only Ten Hag is good enough, because he coaches in a third rate league and isn't proven week in week out, going against top coaches and good teams. The two I've mentioned had relative success with second rate teams in the toughest league in the world. Anybody that thinks Poch is a failure because he didn't win a league or CL with fecking Spurs is an idiot, quite frankly.
And I would be absolutely happy with Ten Hag, but I just disagree with your point. There's an element of risk with all these managers and there will be unless we can hire Pep, which obviously isn't happening.
Managers don't bring whole lot of staff. Tuchel brought couple of coaches and the same coaches who worked under Lampard also worked under Tuchel. If we rate them based on Lampard stint, they are shit. If we rate them based on Tuchel time they are awesome.Whoever comes in will have to insist on bringing their own coaches with them, as I have a funny feeling Woodward will try to insist on retaining some, if not all of the inept ones we have now, as part of his 'cultural reboot'.
Re Poch, he's doing ok this season in terms of league position and CL group. It's just their style of play, but we know that the PSG team is very unbalanced with a lazy attack. Everything Poch doesn't want. Look how badly Tuchel was struggling in his last season there and what he did with Chelsea. Conte himself said any manager would struggle there. Still, by the end of the season I expect Poch will have a league title to his name. I still think he'd be very good here.Rodgers is a good manager but I don't like him for his Liverpool connection and for the fact that he is kind of like a David Brent, too much talk. I know its a silly reason but that's what I feel.
I absolutely wanted Pochettino when we got rid off Mourinho, I thought he was an excellent coach but he should be doing so much better at PSG and they look kind of disjoined like us.
On what planet would a highly rated young coach, sign a one year contract?Since it is looking like we won't be getting our favorites anytime soon (within these 2 months) - e.g. Enrique, Ten Hag, Nagelsmann, Rose, Poch. Should we just explore other untested options to widen the search or stick with Ole until better options become available? For example Potter for a year contract or so?
I would fully expect Rodgers to take the job today if offered to him. If you told him that he'll be a candidate in the summer but could miss out to Poch, ETH etc then he'd make the jump. I'm sure of it.Crazy that we're going through the effort of wasting a full season in order to appoint someone in the summer... and that manager is apparently fecking Rodgers? Like I'd get it if we could get him now and nobody else, but waiting a full season for him? Wild stuff. We really are hopeless long term.
When drawing out potential candidates, this is very high on the agenda.While Rodgers is the one consistent name they are saying (and they are all beginning to say it). He wont kick up any fuss with the Board, will take on that Ole role of middleman between the fan base and the Glazers. However the man can coach a team which at least gets me excited.
A lot of managers don't cause the board a fuss. Klopp doesn't (Liverpool haven't invested much apart from reinvesting player sales), Ferguson didn't (we never invested towards the end under him), Guardiola we can't be sure about (because he's given everything he wants), Tuchel only kicked up a fuss at Dortmund because he had players sold from under him and PSG was PSG - his reputation is only built off of these two clubs, Poch never threw Levy under the bus, Ten Hag doesn't seem to be the one who goes to war with his board.When drawing out potential candidates, this is very high on the agenda.
Find a manager that will not cause the board a fuss. It seems that is the metric when it comes to deciding a new manager.
This is why Conte was not considered.
The Glazers will not get a manager to bring success to us, I doubt if we will ever win the league again under their ownership because of this.
