To be honest I was more juxtaposing that against the merits of hiring a Conte, Flick or a Zidane (all unavailable for different reasons).
Get in! Would be great to have him takeover before the Chelsea game or the Arsenal game at latest.
Everyone who says they watch any football that is not the PL or United are lying hipsters according to some people
Me too!Sorry for your families loss
They have their own assets/players in Mings, Konsa, and Hause who are all of decent level. Why would they prefer to develop a loanee. Maguire/Lindelof have even been worse this season than all of them, it is not such a shame he isnt getting in ahead of them.
This
yes, and Poch can do the same then.
It is fair though and Ligue 1 is a one horse race wether you like it or not.
These posters are so tiresome to argue against, it baffles my mind that they treat Ten Hag as to be some completely newbie. There are few managers with the history/background info available like Mourinho, van Gaal, Guardiola sure. But to suggest the majority of United fans didn't know of Ten Hag until weeks ago, is just incredibly silly.
It is fair though and Ligue 1 is a one horse race wether you like it or not.
He drew against St. Etienne (total value of squad: 90M) and Rennes (total value: 182M) and lost against Lorient (total value: 52M), Monaco (total value: 331M), Nantes (total value: 83M) and Lille (total value: 242M).
He took over 1 point behind the the league leaders and couldn't catch them in 22 games with a squad worth 891M (#2 in the world)
None of the teams 19 other teams in Ligue 1 would get top 10 in the PL. The least valuable squad in the PL is worth 130M, Ligue 1 has 13 squads worth 90M or less and none of the other 6 squads are worth more than Wolves (ranked #10 in PL)
You have to win the the french league with that squad, that is the absolute minimum....even when you have only 22 games to get 1 whole point more than your rivals
Maybe it is too much to ask of a "world class" manager, but I disagree....
I think we can agree on the fact that he has not gotten the most out of that PSG-squad and there is nothing that suggests he would suddely start winning trophies if he comes here.
Absolutely correct. However we did mess it up as usual, and now we are in the situation we are in. Clearly we need to continue the restructuring and move the power of the football side to the actual football people. But while we do that we should hire competent managers to keep us in the fight.
Honestly there isn’t any point responding to them
To be honest from what I've seen of Tuanzebe I'm not sure he'd make it but yeah you're probably right, more playing time at a lower level, even, would have probably been better for him. Although he had been at Villa before so if they wanted him and he wanted to go I can see why the decision was made.
Look at the variation of the loan deals for Chelsea and City. By comparison, Liverpool and ourselves aren't keen on utilising feeder clubs in Europe, or finding European clubs who match our own in terms of play style.
Do you watch the league?It is fair though and Ligue 1 is a one horse race wether you like it or not.
He drew against St. Etienne (total value of squad: 90M) and Rennes (total value: 182M) and lost against Lorient (total value: 52M), Monaco (total value: 331M), Nantes (total value: 83M) and Lille (total value: 242M).
He took over 1 point behind the the league leaders and couldn't catch them in 22 games with a squad worth 891M (#2 in the world)
None of the teams 19 other teams in Ligue 1 would get top 10 in the PL. The least valuable squad in the PL is worth 130M, Ligue 1 has 13 squads worth 90M or less and none of the other 6 squads are worth more than Wolves (ranked #10 in PL)
You have to win the the french league with that squad, that is the absolute minimum....even when you have only 22 games to get 1 whole point more than your rivals
Maybe it is too much to ask of a "world class" manager, but I disagree....
I think we can agree on the fact that he has not gotten the most out of that PSG-squad and there is nothing that suggests he would suddely start winning trophies if he comes here.
Come on stop talking nonsense, you have other teams in Ligue 1 who have reached UCL finals, semis and quarters. You are being incredibly ridiculous. Squad value does not = squad quality especially with the PL tax included.It is fair though and Ligue 1 is a one horse race wether you like it or not.
He drew against St. Etienne (total value of squad: 90M) and Rennes (total value: 182M) and lost against Lorient (total value: 52M), Monaco (total value: 331M), Nantes (total value: 83M) and Lille (total value: 242M).
He took over 1 point behind the the league leaders and couldn't catch them in 22 games with a squad worth 891M (#2 in the world)
None of the teams 19 other teams in Ligue 1 would get top 10 in the PL. The least valuable squad in the PL is worth 130M, Ligue 1 has 13 squads worth 90M or less and none of the other 6 squads are worth more than Wolves (ranked #10 in PL)
You have to win the the french league with that squad, that is the absolute minimum....even when you have only 22 games to get 1 whole point more than your rivals
Maybe it is too much to ask of a "world class" manager, but I disagree....
I think we can agree on the fact that he has not gotten the most out of that PSG-squad and there is nothing that suggests he would suddely start winning trophies if he comes here.
I think it's fairly evident that he doesn't
I agree, but still also an ordinairy team which you couldn't expect much of. Part of his learning evolution, still a relatively young manager (49 years old)
My only question about Poch is how he sets us up for big games. I want a manager who sets us to go toe to toe with City and Liverpoool. I don’t want another scared pragmatic manager. I don’t know if Poch is like that but I hear some raising concerns. I remember him going for it in games and playing awesome football. I don’t fear him losing big matches. He obviously won a fair fee to get them to the champions league, including vs City. And an early pen changed everything. Plus he had Spurs. Don’t get how people talk about bottling something when they have no right to be there in the first place. Same with Rogers at Liverpool or Leicester. When a manager takes a team to the brink when they shouldnt even be there, then losing isn’t a “bottle job” it’s just natural order being restored after a minor miracle. Most managers manage teams that won’t ever be in the running for trophies. Plus if Poch bottled it then surely Ten Hag did the same when they were leading 3-0 on aggregate?
Was your family member's source from the Jamaican delegation?
I seem to remember Poch's Spurs outplaying City a few times.
A terrible Lyon team beat City and people think that any PL teams is going to just beat every Ligue 1 teams outside of PSG. I have been critical of Pochettino but in terms of result he did a good job during the second part of the season, he put PSG in a position to win and Lille trained by a good coach maintained a high pace.
Took him a long time before he started having a go against the top sides. He eventually got there though, but he was far too pragmatic for a long time.
Well if he’s learned, what does it matter? So long as we’re getting the new improved version.
I'm not sure he watches football at all to be honest unless it's played on a spreadsheet.
I'm hearing we're close to Woy Hodgson. Don't share it with anybody though.
Hopefully so.
Almost as silly as trying to equate it to not knowing who Haaland is I'd imagine.
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No one argued that but to suggest the majority of the Caf has fancied Ten Hag for years is fiction.
A typical Romano tweet where he says a lot without saying anything.
Well yeah I was quite harsh on Pochetinno on occasion in the past but if you look at Spurs league finishes before and after him, there's a massive difference.
