Wow. Do you watch a lot of ligue 1? Just curious.It is fair though and Ligue 1 is a one horse race wether you like it or not.
He drew against St. Etienne (total value of squad: 90M) and Rennes (total value: 182M) and lost against Lorient (total value: 52M), Monaco (total value: 331M), Nantes (total value: 83M) and Lille (total value: 242M).
He took over 1 point behind the the league leaders and couldn't catch them in 22 games with a squad worth 891M (#2 in the world)
None of the teams 19 other teams in Ligue 1 would get top 10 in the PL. The least valuable squad in the PL is worth 130M, Ligue 1 has 13 squads worth 90M or less and none of the other 6 squads are worth more than Wolves (ranked #10 in PL)
You have to win the the french league with that squad, that is the absolute minimum....even when you have only 22 games to get 1 whole point more than your rivals
Maybe it is too much to ask of a "world class" manager, but I disagree....
I think we can agree on the fact that he has not gotten the most out of that PSG-squad and there is nothing that suggests he would suddely start winning trophies if he comes here.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Nothing is supposed to make sense when you're ran by clueless buffoons
Imagine if he somehow won the CL with us, be the biggest headscratcher of world football, ever.
They should hate their club set up given that the likes of Blanc, Emery and Tuchel have all had the same complaints over the years and the latter 2 are genuinely good managers...The PSG fans on reddit really hate Poch
Yeah, there was a PSG fan on Flex's stream this morning and he was saying their fanbase is happy enough for him to go as the football is shite and there's no sense of style or identity and his stubborn refusal to make substitutions is infuriating, also said that there are issues with Leonardo behind the scenes that haven't helped the atmosphere but doesn't explain the garbage being served up on the pitch.
There is a bit of that and I don't mean to represent it as a definitive judgment by any means but I do think it'll be interesting to see how long it takes them to get back to where they were under Pochettino.
I'm not sure Mourinho will ever get the "over-achieving" version of anyone anymore and if Poch had been allowed rejuvenate the side when he wanted to then things might have been different.
Get it done
OGS did. It was the style of not having a bloody clue. Lasted nearly 3 years.
Di Mateo did it with Chelsea.
Yep, defensive structure will be much better but the football will remain tumescent and his in-game management is poor, this was evident at Spurs.
Would Zidane really go to PSG? I'll believe it when I see it. Just weeks ago he was saying he still has a connection to Marseille and will always have. A weird turn of events.
Looks like this’ll all be pretty much a done dealio by the weekend.
Yeah, I agree. But I think you understand what I mean. Of course you have to play to your strengths and match them up with your opponent's weaknesses. You need to be smart. But I'd prefer not to have to play like Burnley.
The larger point was that OGS had a tremendous opening run.
Poch got sacked by Tottenham. Do we want Tottenhams scraps?
He's a right old tease.
99% of managers get sacked.
I only watch French teams in Europe.
I agree that Squad value does not = squad quality 100%, but it paints a picture of how unbalanced Ligue 1 is.
If you judge French football on their merits in Europe the last 3 years, it's really underwhelming:
Take away PSG's last 3 runs in the CL: round of 16, semi and final.
EL merits since 18/19 season from French teams:
1 x round of 16
1 x round of 32
4 x not out of groupstage
CL merits since 18/19 season from French teams other than PSG:
1 x semi (Lyon got out of their group with 8 points, 3 points behind Leipzig)
1 x round of 16 (Lyon got out of their group with 8 points, 5 points behind Manchester City)
4 x last in group (no EL)
English teams:
EL since 18/19:
3 x final
2 x semi
1 x quarter final
1 x round of 16
1 x round of 32
No English teams have been knocked out in group stages
CL since 18/19:
3 x final
4 x quarter final
3 x round of 16
1 x 3rd in group stage (we got 3rd with 9 points)
There is a reason why the Portugues League has been ranked above Ligue 1 in 2 of the last 5 years.
If PSG doesn't win that league, it must be concidered a failure. There is no way of getting around it.
Could we have the above poll reset? Remove a few of the options too (Rose/Galtier/Mancini/Enrique).
Would be interesting to see how many are keen on Pochettino vs Ten Hag/others.
Personally, given the cretins running the club, Poch is the best we're gonna get - not that I'm unhappy with him, I think he's got a great chance to do well.
In an ideal world, Ten Hag plus a new structure above him would be amazing - but it's a fantasy. Never going to happen.
Would be interesting to see how many are keen on Pochettino vs Ten Hag/others.
Personally, given the cretins running the club, Poch is the best we're gonna get - not that I'm unhappy with him, I think he's got a great chance to do well.
In an ideal world, Ten Hag plus a new structure above him would be amazing - but it's a fantasy. Never going to happen.
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Could've had him for free besides his wages at any point before last winter if the club was serious about him but they do love to burn money
Yeah, nearly men when in the natural order of things they should've been no way near men. They beat City, beat Ajax from 3-0 down at half time, yet he's called a bottler. He far exceeded his resources at Spurs and engineered minor miracles at that club, that was ruled with an iron fist by Levy. I agree though it would be nice for him to win something just to shut everyone up. Sadly, it won't though will it. Ligue 1 is considered to be easier to win than a Sunday League for some people. But at least he will have it for himself. Plus, he's got a genuine chance at the Champions League this year. Pretty incredible if he decided to throw that away to join us now. Says a lot about how he sees us a club.I'm sure after all these reports he'll come out and deny everything though during the press conferences. Here's hoping not.
Very true. In that case let's get Brucey in!
Don't even think you need a poll reset to confirm this is probably what the vast majority of fans want. But as you said, yeah it's not happening, unfortunately.
10 million is nothing for United.
Sounds familiar
Some right moaning feckers in here.
If Poch is still here in two years time he’s done a lot better than I expected. Still I’ll back him totally and hope everything I think about him is very wrong.
Ajax prioritise football but are a superbly run business. We prioritise business and are terribly run football club. We are the anti Ajax.I feel like for Ten Hag to succeed here we would have to totally transform our structure. Literally turn it upside down and shake all the shit out. And there's a lot of shit. It seems like we have 5 people in a position where 1 would do. And none of those 5 are as good as that 1. Similar to our midfield. I would love Rangnick to come here just to shake everything up and start to fix things. But that's never gonna happen as long as Special Ed sits here with all his cronies.
So £16+m it'll have cost us to change managers and the backroom staff. If only we'd have done what we said we'd do prior to appointing Ole permanently and doing our due diligence before hiring a manager, we'd have saved a lot of money.
In terms of transfers £16+m isn't a lot of money, but if we had that money to spend on infrastructure such as the stadium and training ground, we'd have seen vast improvements. So it's not just the incompetent decisions which are effecting on-field matters.
Steve Bruce ey?
The funny thing is this, since you don't know the league, you made that silly mistake. It's because Ligue 1 is a balanced league and one of the most balanced league that you don't see consistency in Europe. There is a larger turnover of teams and it doesn't allow for experience at continental level, deep teams or concentration of wealth which is why teams generally focus on the league, particularly when it comes to EL. And that's how for example you get Lille and Lyon being midtable teams this season.
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Was there not a point where we were the hardest working team in the league under Ole? I vaguely remember that but I could be off. I know we were the least hard working this year with Spurs. But I thought after the first season he turned it around. There was a point where we could press. Then it all fell apart and he seemed to give up. Not sure why that was.
Did Spurs not used to play some really great attacking free-flowing football? That's what I remember anyway.
I always laugh when Ole says he wants a team full of running and desire and when you look at the stats, there we are in 20th place or whatever for running.
No, their game was built on their defensive scheme. Basically press high and aggressively which created opportunities to score goals off turnovers against a disorganized defense.
Yup, terrible. Part of that is probably due to us being absolutely static off the ball though too. I find it amazing how we never seem to have changed that. Even a simple thing like playing the ball in front of the player so they can run onto it seems beyond us at times.
If they appoint Pochettino by Thursday, we could have a realistic chance for Sunday.
Sorry disagree. Poch has always been known as an attacking coach.
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