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That's it, then, Poch it shall be?
That's it, then, Poch it shall be?
Ronaldo is here for 18 months at most. We shouldn't be basing a managerial decision on him. Other attacking players who don't put a shift in can either change behaviour or leave.Perhaps the most memorable characteristic of Poch’s Spurs team was their relentless high press and work rate. They had that cliche “defend from the front” sort of philosophy.
How exactly does that work with a 36+ year old CR7 and several other attacking players who don’t put a shift in?
Yeah was going to say the same thing. Ajax were super impressive in the first half of both matches but Spurs had a load of chances, particularly in the 2nd half of the 2nd leg. The last minute goal was fortunate but a goal had been coming.This myth has been busted a while ago to be fair, see the stats below. Admittedly my memory was also that Ajax edged the tie on balance of play, however Spurs were certainly not battered.
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1st leg: Spurs 51 % 49 Ajax
2nd leg: Ajax 40 % 60 Spurs
If we were to get someone tomorrow, my choice would be Zidane, because I know he can win something big with the team this season. However, he doesn't seem like he would want to stick around here for long, especially with the France job opening up in the summer, so naturally ETH or Poch would be the most sensible choices.I agree That Ten Haag is a really great and progressive choice would love to see what he would do. My second Choice would probably be Poch would love to see what he could do with our Squad . Third choice for me would be Zidane then Rose. Really don't want Rodgers
He's shown he can adapt at that from having to work with Mbappe, Neymar and Messi.Perhaps the most memorable characteristic of Poch’s Spurs team was their relentless high press and work rate. They had that cliche “defend from the front” sort of philosophy.
How exactly does that work with a 36+ year old CR7 and several other attacking players who don’t put a shift in?
All players can be coached to press and work hard. It's simply a matter of the coach getting it out of them. Rash, Greenwood, Sancho, Bruno, Cavani aren't lazy players. Martial isn't either he just looks that way. Ronaldo probably can't do it and we would have to work around that but Ronaldo also isn't going to be here past next season.Perhaps the most memorable characteristic of Poch’s Spurs team was their relentless high press and work rate. They had that cliche “defend from the front” sort of philosophy.
How exactly does that work with a 36+ year old CR7 and several other attacking players who don’t put a shift in?
My big worry with him is we would get the post champions league final 2019 rather than the 2016-2019 versionThe French league is virtually won already nobody is catching PSG now and he’s beat City in Europe they can’t be that bad.
Poch for me I’ve wanted him for years. The job he did at Spurs was superb.
My big worry with him is we would get the post champions league final 2019 rather than the 2016-2019 version
This should be pinned somewhere in his thread. Anyone who doesn’t rate his work at Spurs either doesn’t remember how they were before and equates one Bale season as the norm, or just never watched them play.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the France job won't be available until December 2022? Maybe this weird timing is what complicates Zidane taking over.If we were to get someone tomorrow, my choice would be Zidane, because I know he can win something big with the team this season. However, he doesn't seem like he would want to stick around here for long, especially with the France job opening up in the summer, so naturally ETH or Poch would be the most sensible choices.
The more I think about it the more I’m on board with Poch. Ten Hag is still my first choice but he’s a close second.This should be pinned somewhere in his thread. Anyone who doesn’t rate his work at Spurs either doesn’t remember how they were before and equates one Bale season as the norm, or just never watched them play.
I would be seriously excited by his appointment. He has proven he can compete with the best teams in the PL on a very limited budget. Let’s see what he can do at United.
He was managing Spurs. There were consistently 5-6 teams paying more transfer fees and higher wages. He was forced into playing seasons with Winks-Sissoko as his CM partnership and had summers with 0 incomings.Are people serious about Poch? Sacked by Spurs. Probably sacked by PSG as well if he comes to Utd. He can build teams but he's absolutely no track record of winning things despite managing some fantastic players in his time. Why would things be any different here? Folk seem to be putting a lot of stock in one flukey CL final appearance and happily ignoring ever other failed trophy attempt he's been involved in.
Absolutely. Rodgers is my fear. A horrible personality and character that will generate serious memes and lower our stock even further. No thanks!The more I think about it the more I’m on board with Poch. Ten Hag is still my first choice but he’s a close second.
I absolutely do not want Rodgers at this club.
Not questioning the overall conclusion (because I can't remember the games clearly enough to know if I thought Ajax deserved it or not) but I would want more than that use of xG to demonstrate it, I think.This myth has been busted a while ago to be fair, see the stats below. Admittedly my memory was also that Ajax edged the tie on balance of play, however Spurs were certainly not battered.
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1st leg: Spurs 51 % 49 Ajax
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Yeah that's what I fear happening again, however still happy if him & Ten Hag are indeed our top two targetsIt always seems to be we get the worse version ever since Fergie left
That is something he might have learnt or he could be better manager by learning from mistakes.Poch will make us play better as a team.
I don't know of hes going to win us any trophies though.
He's an improvement on Ole but I can't day I think his decision making is perfect.
Dropping Moura for that final for a half fit Kane was a cardinal sin committed for me.
Would love to hear from PSG fans on what they think or posters who watch Ligue 1. Can he make the big decisions when it counts?That is something he might have learnt or he could be better manager by learning from mistakes.
Any manager can make mistake, even Pep made mistake for not playing a DM in final CL last season. It's up to Poch whether he actually learnt from it or no. But the potential is there.
True, but the French League isn't strong. The Premier League is where most managers want to be.Why everyone think we would get Poch, when he is currently managing PSG, with far better team and real chances of trophies?
There is speculation that Zidane can convince Mbappe to stay.Would love to hear from PSG fans on what they think or posters who watch Ligue 1. Can he make the big decisions when it counts?
Yet another thing to factor in would be the relative squad strength. (ETH seems to get Ajax consistently 'punching above their weight'.)Not questioning the overall conclusion (because I can't remember the games clearly enough to know if I thought Ajax deserved it or not) but I would want more than that use of xG to demonstrate it, I think.
xG isn't particularly designed to be useful in analysing individual games in that way anyway and in that second leg there was a particularly skewed game state, with Ajax effectively going 2-0 up in the tie after 5 min and then 3-0 up after 35min. At which point I'd expect Spurs to rack up a bigger xG than Ajax, because they desperately have to attack whereas Ajax are 3-0 up in actual goals, so don't have to approach the game in such a way as to generate much further xG.
"Battered" might be the wrong word but you could (probably) still argue that Spurs were outplayed over two legs, despite that sort of xG total. Not saying they were mind, just that it isn't as simple as "bigger number played better and deserves to win".
People are rather underplaying how big a problem this will be. We are going to need a rebuild to make this work and 2 years of non pressing Ronaldo is going to cripple a team pressing from the front. I imagine Ronaldo is already kicking off big time about it. And that's before you get to the rest.All players can be coached to press and work hard. It's simply a matter of the coach getting it out of them. Rash, Greenwood, Sancho, Bruno, Cavani aren't lazy players. Martial isn't either he just looks that way. Ronaldo probably can't do it and we would have to work around that but Ronaldo also isn't going to be here past next season.
A good coach won't have Ronaldo press for 90 minutes. He'll most like be called to press certain moments or cut off a passing lane to force the opposition into passing it to an area of the pitch that will trigger pressure.People are rather underplaying how big a problem this will be. We are going to need a rebuild to make this work and 2 years of non pressing Ronaldo is going to cripple a team pressing from the front. I imagine Ronaldo is already kicking off big time about it. And that's before you get to the rest.
Yeah someone send this to our owners, mind you won't make any difference because they are clueless with Football
Inject this into my veins
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...st-problem-for-next-manchester-united-managerA good coach won't have Ronaldo press for 90 minutes. He'll most like be called to press certain moments or cut off a passing lane to force the opposition into passing it to an area of the pitch that will trigger pressure.
If we get Ten Hag I’ll cry tears of joy. Would be shell shocked that the board actually recruit the right man.Tweet
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Ronaldo has won 5 CL as best player for his team, without being asked to play any pressing role throughout. Go figure it out, if that’s what you want Ronaldo to do for us.People are rather underplaying how big a problem this will be. We are going to need a rebuild to make this work and 2 years of non pressing Ronaldo is going to cripple a team pressing from the front. I imagine Ronaldo is already kicking off big time about it. And that's before you get to the rest.
He still has the record of making bad decisions in some key games, which for a team lime Spurs, didn't matter. I support him coming, but I'm scared he will be make same mistakes as Oles - sticking with the same trusted 11 all the time, even when they are under performing or half injured .He was managing Spurs. There were consistently 5-6 teams paying more transfer fees and higher wages. He was forced into playing seasons with Winks-Sissoko as his CM partnership and had summers with 0 incomings.
It was Levy’s greed and refusal to let him freshen up the squad that eventually got him sacked, after guaranteeing CL football for a club with only the odd appearance his arrival.
He took “Lads, it’s Spurs”, to within 90 minutes of being the best team in Europe. He had United and City lining up to pay 50 million for Dier and Rose.
Unbelievable job and he deserves a chance at a club like United.
Don't count on it much. The dinosaurs at United would consider it their existential threat to have a revolutionary manager like Ten Hag. They are familiar with Pochettino, who is also a fantastic manager, but a docile one and appears tameable. Be grateful if we get him. As for Ten Hag I think he will replace Pep at City in 2023 or will go to Barca.If we get Ten Hag I’ll cry tears of joy. Would be shell shocked that the board actually recruit the right man.
The only identity needed is winning.I have no answers as to who is going to come in or who must come in.
All I want is for a manager to come in with a style of play and who will get the most out of these players. Win or lose, I want us to have an identity. That's all I wish for.
Please stop. This would be too much to handle.My dream scenario is:
Tchouameni in January.
Ten Hag in June.
Frenkie de Jong in June.