That's an interesting point. I think the reason is that a lot of people tend to enjoy dissecting and understanding the craft of coaching itself. There are endless discussions about the vision of the likes of Cruyff, Sacchi and many others and how they viewed the game. That's something that a lot genuinely enjoy. There are those on the other hand who see the coach as nothing more than an employee and that the final product is all that matters. I guess with the former, when it comes to coaches like Zidane, there is always the feeling of "yea but what is his stamp on this team, what is his own vision and how can it be detected." It's a bit like film directors, there are those whose movies all have a clear touch, they almost dominate their work with their own style and there are those who sit back and merely transfer the story, actors, effects, etc ... to the audience. The former tend to get much more recognition and respect.
Next Real Madrid manager | Glaston has a shocker
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
That would be an interesting theory had Florentino thought the outcome of the CL was going to determine the future of Zidane, but the reactions in the last days suggest the club had not contacted any of the top coaches in Europe in recent times.
It's also disingenous to insist on Pochettino if you know he doesn't want to sign for you, as that's going to make you look very bad when there is really no need for that.
Why would RM have contacted any top coaches before the CL final? They were hardly going to sack Zidane if he'd won them the 3rd CL on the spin. But they just might have sacked him if he'd lost that final … because that's the way RM sometimes operate.
Nah, RM thought they could just walk in and take Pochettino, but they got a shock.
Fernando Hierro would be an interesting option
Conte will win La Liga comfortably next year after getting knocked out from the CL at the QFs stage, only to get the boot at the end of the season because of his tough attitude. You heard it here first! 
Zidane wouldn't have been fired even if he lost the final.
You don't know that for sure.
You don't know a lot of the stuff you quote about poch as true either, but you still quote as fact.
Ok then, there was absolutely nothing indicating that Zidane would have been fired if Madrid lost the CL final.
And it would be hilarious if he tried to say he did not have enough money like he did when Juve got knocked out of the CL.Conte will win La Liga comfortably next year after getting knocked out from the CL at the QFs stage, only to get the boot at the end of the season because of his tough attitude. You heard it here first!
I'm absolutely baffled about how some people state their opinions and speculation as facts. It's shocking really.
You don't know that for sure.
"They got a shock".... Making it seem like they missed out on the manager of the century
Especially when it's Glaston doing it, given his penchant for calling others out for speculating.I'm absolutely baffled about how some people state their opinions and speculation as facts. It's shocking really.
Who else can boast of achievements such as 'finishing third in a two-horse race' and 'beating Real in a dead-rubber'? What are trophies when compared to that?
The point is they missed out on who they wanted most, namely Pochettino.
You dont know that for sure.
OK, have it your way. RM never wanted Pochettino, never approached Levy or Pochettino about the job and Pochettino never turned them down.
I'm happy if you're happy.
..Then how did they get a shock if they never wanted him and never approached the situation?
Chose one. They were wanted him, or got a shock when they couldn't have him.
Dont care either way mate tbh.
I already did mate … sorry if you missed it.
Perhaps. It’s not over until Madrid appoints a new manager. However, I hardly would believe it was anything like Spurs or Levy playing tough with Real Madrid, I’m far more inclined to believe what Pochettino said, he fears he’d damage his reputation permanently if he walked away after signing a 5 year contract, and I bet both he and Madrid agreed to leave the door wide open for the future. Hardly a “shock” for Real Madrid, and probably Levy never even had the chance to get out of bed and put his tough negotiator pants on.
Don’t fret though, apparently he’s got his big boy pants on now and is gonna drive a hard bargain for Alderweireld.
Spurs fans really do struggle with the concept that no one particularly cares about their club.
It will be interesting to see if Real give a chance to another former player. It's hard to deny the success they had.
It will be interesting to see if Real give a chance to another former player. It's hard to deny the success they had.
The way you assume things is fascinating.
The way that you assume that I assume things is not fascinating.
I doubt that Pochettino has rejected us. I think it was Levy asking for an impossible sum for a coach, which nobody pays.
I have not heard him say "I do not want to train Madrid", what I have heard are compliments and say "Levy bites", implying that it does not depend on him.
In any case, a few days ago you wrote " This has nothing to do with it ... because no club will want to keep a manager who wants out, because of the morale effect this would have on the entire team."
Don´t you think that this could be the case? remembering again and again that there is a contract, a pretty weak argument to keep the leader of the project?
I see Poch is starting to bat his eyelids at RM a little bit.
I’m thinking Guti will end up being the manager. So many of the big names are tied up to big contracts, and I don’t think they want to pay up big money for getting a manager out of it.
I think he is just being honest, it’s the biggest job in world football, but as always he is happy at Tottenham. What else is the guy supposed to say? I believe he will probably manage Madrid but not at this momment in time.
I don’t think you really know much about the man, he is as honest and straight forward as they come. Clearly any manager would want the biggest job in football but season after season he has stated he is not finished at Tottenham. He would hardly burn his bridges.
I’d say he would rather wait and see if the Madrid dressing room and Perez can be sorted out before taking over. In all honesty I don’t see why Perez would want him, he isn’t a manager who wants to be told who to play, or what his philosophy should be, it’s a really strange match up.
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Scattergun approach eh?
Pochettino existed before Tottenham. He had a very good career at Espanyol, with an strong personality as a player and then as a coach and he always had nice words for Madrid, for sympathy or because of his antipathy to Barcelona.
Very reliable sources say that he spoke with the directors of Madrid on several occasions and probably with Madrid players.
In any case, I do not think he would burn any bridge with Madrid being honest and saying that it is not the time for the job, and he has not done it. He said "deal with Levy"
It sounds like "Neymar, tell us what coach you want"And if Levy doesn’t want to deal, he is happy at Tottenham? If he had spoke with the Madrid directors and players.... why sign a 5 and a half year deal with us? I’m not saying his amibition isn’t to coach Madrid, I’d say it is, but he isn’t the kind of manager or guy to not fulfill his contract, or project he has on. Have you read his book?
But there comes the question I asked Glaston before. He is very loyal but then you take refuge in that he has just signed a contract and in the stubborn figure of the owner. If Levy says "I'm not going to ask for money for the coach, Let Pochettino decide", do you think he would stay?
No, I didn´t read it
A reporter basically said something like “is it not impossible to turn down Madrid?” And Poch replied with "You think it's impossible [to refuse Madrid], but you are not me"
I don’t get why these quotes are ignored and so many people try to think he desperately wants out.
Can I ask do you want him, is he your preferred choice?
I know what he said, he has been very ambiguous. If he wanted the work he should have been clearer, but he also said "that happens what has to happen" or "Levy bites", which sounds like "it does not depend on me".
He could have said "Madrid is the top job but no thanks, I'm on a project in Tottenham".
From the list of coaches "top": Allegri, Sarri, Low, Klopp, etc, he is my favorite choice (although I also have a morbid and masochistic desire to see Wenger, haha). Although I also like - and I think it's the favorite - the option of Guti