Next Real Madrid manager | Glaston has a shocker

[Nostradamus]

Real are coming to us because there's feck all options out there, what will we do if he goes?

True..its the age of coaches and there are really no modern and innovative coaches available. Bayern had the same problem after their clueless and arrogant behaviour led to Tuchel not waiting and deciding to take the Paris job instead and from the scraps left, they went for Kovac instead such fools

Pochettino, Klopp, Nagelsmann..no chance..I mean seriously, if there isn't an innovative coach within Spain, then who else is left? Conte, Sarri, Guti, Hierro, Wenger?

I can't believe that Mourinho would waste a thought about leaving United, but would never ever bet on him staying and being loyal either.

Its going to be a nice show, but one thing is for sure, they will find a better solution than the clown Salihamidzic.

 

[Quizierda]

True..its the age of coaches and there are really no modern and innovative coaches available. Bayern had the same problem after their clueless and arrogant behaviour led to Tuchel not waiting and deciding to take the Paris job instead and from the scraps left, they went for Kovac such fools

Pochettino, Klopp, Nagelsmann..no chance..I mean seriously? If there isn't an innovative coach within Spain, then who else is left? Conte, Sarri, Guti, Hierro, Wenger?

I can't believe that Mourinho would waste a thought about leaving United, but would never ever bet on him staying and being loyal.

Its going to be a nice show, but one thing is for sure, they will find a better solution than the clown Salihamidzic.

Don't blame Salihamidzic too hard - it was clearly Uli Hoeneß who wanted Kovac and Salihamidzic had to follow. Let's see how this turns out, could become Klinsmann all over again.

 

[Nostradamus]

Don't blame Salihamidzic too hard - it was clearly Uli Hoeneß who wanted Kovac and Salihamidzic had to follow. Let's see how this turns out, could become Klinsmann all over again.

No worries, I know that Hoeneß is behind it all and he is making my blood boil since coming back from jail. Words cannot describe how angry he makes me..he is responsible for me having no hope for the future anymore.

RIP Bayern

 

[Quizierda]

No worries, I know that Hoeneß is behind it all and he is making my blood boil since coming back from jail. Words cannot describe how angry he makes me..he is responsible for me having no hope for the future anymore.

RIP Bayern

Don't be too harsh. Bayern has always found a way to re-invent themselves and I am sure they will do it again if they fail next season. Even though I can't deny that I wouldn’t enjoy a few years of failure I simply can't see it. Maybe one year but thereafter they will be back as strong as ever...

 

[dirkey]

The "better league position" is based just on one season (rather than the many seasons since Fergie retired). And United having better players is questionable to say the least.

And if by infrastructure you mean that United have a better training centre and stadium going into next season, then I'll just leave that one hanging there …

But all this has nothing to do with the subject of RM's next manager.

That's true. I was just replying to something you said, however.

Spurs new stadium might be nice, but it won't be better, as it won't bring in more money than a far bigger stadium.

 

[carvajal]

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"Madrid are the top, what happens what has to happen"

 

[Sassy Colin]

= Only God knows.

 

[SirAF]

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"Madrid are the top, what happens what has to happen"

 

[Kapardin]

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"Madrid are the top, what happens what has to happen"

He really does regret signing that contract now, doesn't he?

 

[OverratedOpinion]

The "better league position" is based just on one season (rather than the many seasons since Fergie retired). And United having better players is questionable to say the least.

And if by infrastructure you mean that United have a better training centre and stadium going into next season, then I'll just leave that one hanging there …

But all this has nothing to do with the subject of RM's next manager.

It is true that you finished ahead of us a couple of times. During your clubs best period in decades and our worst. Ironically the way you see this as something to celebrate (winning nothing) really highlights the differing levels of the clubs. We just finished 2nd and got to an FA cup final and our fanbase is generally unhappy.

I imagine that by 'infrastructure' he means a lot more than just the stadium and the training ground. There are very few fans who see their ground as such an important aspect of a clubs future as you seem to.

He probably means the entire business size and staffing of the organization (which often dictates how likely a club is to challenge). As far as that goes we are a mile ahead of any other football club on the planet. Spurs are a very, very small club in comparison to Man Utd or Real Madrid. To compare them would be absolute insanity.

 

[GatoLoco]

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"Madrid are the top, what happens what has to happen"

Omg, he said exactly what I said here a few days ago. For an Argentinian player or coach Real Madrid is the top.

Thanks Mauricio for making me look smart here at least.

 

[carvajal]

Omg, he said exactly what I said here a few days ago. For an Argentinian player or coach Real Madrid is the top.

Thanks Mauricio for making me look smart here at least.

If he really wants the job he will have to stop being so ambiguous

 

[gaucho_10]

I don't think this is about fear, it's about the timing.

Tricky circumstances = bad timing = fear

If they all want to wait for the perfect moment to take the Real Madrid job then all I'm going to say is good luck with that.

Its a no win situation. If they try and sell any vaguely popular players then it causes drama and gets them fired.

They will have little or no say in who will be sold and who will be bought and they'll have to take some of the blame any way. It's all part o the job. Any manager that can't live with that better stay away.

 

[Random Task]

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Is he reconsidering his options?

 

[awop]

He really does regret signing that contract now, doesn't he?

He's absolutely livid

 

[dirkey]

It is true that you finished ahead of us a couple of times. During your clubs best period in decades and our worst. Ironically the way you see this as something to celebrate (winning nothing) really highlights the differing levels of the clubs. We just finished 2nd and got to an FA cup final and our fanbase is generally unhappy.

I imagine that by 'infrastructure' he means a lot more than just the stadium and the training ground. There are very few fans who see their ground as such an important aspect of a clubs future as you seem to.

He probably means the entire business size and staffing of the organization (which often dictates how likely a club is to challenge). As far as that goes we are a mile ahead of any other football club on the planet. Spurs are a very, very small club in comparison to Man Utd or Real Madrid. To compare them would be absolute insanity.

Bingo, exactly. You're dead right, I wasn't even remotely thinking of the stadium, of course, when it was pointed out, the fact that OT still dwarf's Spurs new ground ... it's silly to claim Spurs are better off there.

Regardless, I've contributed, by replying to a point of Glaston's, to taking this thread way off topic.

I am very interested to see who Madrid do end up appointing. Will they circle back, and go harder after Poch, now it seems Allegri has said no? Or do they have other options that they're remotely interested in? Tough job to follow Zidane, whatever the newly banned member thinks!

 

[carvajal]

Is he reconsidering his options?

It seems that he wants to leave all the doors open. If I had not signed the contract I think it would have been very easy.

 

[Random Task]

It seems that he wants to leave all the doors open. If I had not signed the contract I think it would have been very easy.

That's a given to be fair. I guess he is concerned about his reputation. I mean choosing to leave for Spain so soon after signing a new contract with Spurs will not go down well with the media - at least those based in England - and I'd imagine his own conscience is toying with him somewhat. Then again career-defining opportunities such as managing Real Madrid do not present themselves every day. Turning them down is something he will regret at a later date should he decide to do so.

 

[GatoLoco]

Tricky circumstances = bad timing = fear

If they all want to wait for the perfect moment to take the Real Madrid job then all I'm going to say is good luck with that.

Yes, but if you talk about challenge in Pochettino's case, it should be referred to Levy and not to managing Madrid, which is what it seemed in your post imo.

 

[GlastonSpur]

The most previous season counts the most, since that is the reflection of the current incarnation of the team.

This I agree with, albeit modified by the fact that Spurs has to play all their "home" games at Wembley.

But counting more than any previous recent single season, does not mean counting for everything: it's doubtful that finishing one place higher last season outweighs finishing three places lower in the season before that (especially given the Wembley factor) and two places lower in the season before that.

 

[reddaz71]

Would not be a shock if its Mourinho!

 

[Norris]

Mou to Real and Poch to United ? That would probably shut up a very specific Spurs fan on the caf!

 

[ayushreddevil9]

This I agree with, albeit modified by the fact that Spurs has to play all their "home" games at Wembley.

But counting more than any previous recent single season, does not mean counting for everything: it's doubtful that finishing one place higher last season outweighs finishing three places lower in the season before that (especially given the Wembley factor) and two places lower in the season before that.

I thought you didn't like to live in the past and called others deluded who talked about things which happened a few years ago.

Also I think 1 FA cup, 1 League cup and 1 Europa league cup (also 2 community shields) outweighs zero trophies.

And please, don't play that ''lucky draws in the tournament" card. There is Liverpool with the victim mentality tantrums and then there are Spurs (apparently they weren't lucky enough with the draws and win anything of note). A gift that keeps on giving.

 

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[Random Task]

Would not be a shock if its Mourinho!

Actually, it would be a massive shock.

 

[United_We_Stand]

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[Random Task]

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They're scraping the barrel now.

Have the given Big Sam a call yet?

 

[Peyroteo]

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Probably not even the fourth or fifth option. Zidane left at a really bad time for Madrid.

 

[Theonas]

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That will probably the worst appointment they can make. Rafa Benitez level of crazy.

 

[Bojan11]

Why is Conte scraping the barrel?

It’s like saying we were scraping the barrel when we signed Jose. Chelsea players clearly love downing tools. He’d still won a trophy. He’s won a league in his first season. Chelsea board refused to back him.

It’s definitely not comparable to Rafa either.

 

[GatoLoco]

I think the new coach will be Guti.

 

[K2K]

Would not be a shock if its Mourinho!

Jose isn't going back there. Not yet anyway.

He does seem like he wants stability. He has mentioned this for a while now. United are his best bet.

 

[Theonas]

Why is Conte scraping the barrel?

It’s like saying we were scraping the barrel when we signed Jose. Chelsea players clearly love downing tools. He’d still won a trophy. He’s won a league in his first season. Chelsea board refused to back him.

It’s definitely not comparable to Rafa either.

It's not scraping the barrels. He is one of the best managers in the world. Him and Mourinho are probably the best around at setting up a team for a one off game with their brilliant tactical reading and game management. The problem is his volatility and need for control. He is also very meticulous tactically and likes his teams very drilled tactically. Those traits simply do not go well with the Real players. It is one of the reasons they rebelled against Mourinho and Rafa and produced their best under more hands off coaches like Ancelotti and Zidane.

 

[Bojan11]

It's not scraping the barrels. He is one of the best managers in the world. Him and Mourinho are probably the best around at setting up a team for a one off game with their brilliant tactical reading and game management. The problem is his volatility and need for control. He is also very meticulous tactically and likes his teams very drilled tactically. Those traits simply do not go well with the Real players. It is one of the reasons they rebelled against Mourinho and Rafa and produced their best under more hands off coaches like Ancelotti and Zidane.

Real Madrid are rebuilding regardless, so quite a few of those players won’t be there.

I think he’d do well there in the league.

 

[Peyroteo]

Real Madrid are rebuilding regardless, so quite a few of those players won’t be there.

I think he’d do well there in the league.

It's very likely that none of the key players will leave though. I think it could work for one season and he'll give them motivation to go for the league but coaches like Conte don't tend to be successful at Madrid.

 

[Irrational.]

I bet Pochettino is gutted he didn't wait a little longer before chaining himself to Levy and Spurs. Everything he was saying just before the end of the season pointed to uncertainty and an indication that he wouldn't be here much longer. Instead, he bottled it and signed the new contract - when even if he had waited a couple more weeks, he could've used the Madrid interest to leverage a better contract even if he didn't end up going.

Now he is stuck to flirting with Madrid wondering about what could have been.

 

[Theonas]

Real Madrid are rebuilding regardless, so quite a few of those players won’t be there.

I think he’d do well there in the league.

Like @Peyroteo said, those players are not going anywhere. Ramos, Marcelo, Kroos, Modric, and most likely Ronaldo and Benzema are not going anywhere. It's not just about the players in particular, it's the culture of the club under Perez. They buy big established creative stars which create huge ego problems. At Real, Ancelotti was perfect for them with his laissez faire attitude. At Bayern, the players thought he was under preparing them tactically and physically that they started organizing their own extra training. The manager there also needs to be diplomatic and makes sure the players are the center of attention the way Zidane and Del Bosque before him managed to do perfectly. Managers with big personalities and clear tactical ideas like Conte simply do not possess that which creates conflict. Of course, things can click for a season, especially if they lower their expectations in terms of style but it is an accident waiting to happen.

 

[GlastonSpur]

I bet Pochettino is gutted he didn't wait a little longer before chaining himself to Levy and Spurs. Everything he was saying just before the end of the season pointed to uncertainty and an indication that he wouldn't be here much longer. Instead, he bottled it and signed the new contract - when even if he had waited a couple more weeks, he could've used the Madrid interest to leverage a better contract even if he didn't end up going.

Now he is stuck to flirting with Madrid wondering about what could have been.

Lol … Pochettino is a smart guy who knew exactly what he was doing by signing a new contract before the outcome of the CL final was known. If he'd harboured the slightest desire to leave Spurs for RM this summer he would have waited a few days to see if a vacancy was going to arise.

But he didn't wait. And the notion that didn't wait because of some lack of awareness is just more wishful thinking. He's now one of the highest paid football managers in the world - probably in the top 6 or 7 - so I doubt he's too "gutted".

 

[GatoLoco]

I would say the problem with some very tactical oriented coaches in squads full of quality is that they limit the talent of their players and kill off their creativity. To get the best of such personalities some balance is needed, and that's why certain coaches and Real Madrid don't mix up well together. For some reason managers who can provide the balance are somewhat seen in a worse light than those who are intransigent and very tactical. We often see coaches being questioned on whether they would make it in smaller clubs but never the contrary. As we saw with the case of Moyes, the profiles needed for each enviroment are very different.

 

[Theonas]

Lol … Pochettino is a smart guy who knew exactly what he was doing by signing a new contract before the outcome of the CL final was known. If he'd harboured the slightest desire to leave Spurs for RM this summer he would have waited a few days to see if a vacancy was going to arise.

But he didn't wait. And the notion that didn't wait because of some lack of awareness is just more wishful thinking. He's now one of the highest paid football managers in the world - probably in the top 6 or 7 - so I doubt he's too "gutted".

I think also generally fans exaggerate the pull of Real for managers. For players, they are the most attractive club, hands down. They don't get whoever they want but to a lot of players, they are the place to be. Managers are a different breed though. They are more mature and tend to have too big of an ego in wanting to impose themselves and develop a project that will be theirs. There is simply nowhere where that is likely than Real or Barcelona. It is one of the reasons the PL is a dream to many of them as it offers more autonomy than the rest and it is one of the reasons Pochettino, Klopp and Allegri don't seem to be as hell bent on going there as Ronaldo, Bale, Kroos or Modric to name a few were. Obviously, it is still extremely prestigious still to manage them but it always comes with a big but.