Except Neymar despite being much younger is much more established and proven, both for club and international status. He would be the star player for us. He's just a much better player than Di Maria.
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I have no doubt about him being a better player than ADM. It's just that I don't feel comfortable with such mega transfers. They never work out well for us.
We've only had one mega transfer.
I dont know how to post tweets..
@barcastuff: Neymar Sr (father): "We're talking about renewing, but the tax problems bother us. If this can't be solved, we can't stay." [ser]
@barcastuff: Neymar Sr (father): "We're talking about renewing, but the tax problems bother us. If this can't be solved, we can't stay." [ser]
Spain's taxman, you know what to do.
The thing is that with these cases, as Messi shows us, takes time and I cant see this being resoved at such a time that Barcelona feel comfortable.
Going into two years left and his father is saying the same thing. What do they do?
Going into two years left and his father is saying the same thing. What do they do?
Do we want a player playing for us who doesn't want to move but will because he isn't making enough money?
Good point. Got burned badly the last time we signed someone forced to leave.
That had occurred to me too. Money is really the only reason he would want to leave Barca to join us, which isn't a great sign.
On the other hand, not sure you can turn down a player like Neymar even in those circumstances. Plus some players are professional enough to play properly regardless.
I'd usually say no but when when it's a player who's knocking on the Balon D'oor (along with Messi, Ron and Jon obviously), I can't see motivation being an issue.
Depends if he wants to be Barcelona's main man, in which case he'll have to outlast Messi. If he wants to be the biggest star in a team (which I think he probably will) he might actually fancy a move.
Neymar is absolutely world class and at a higher level than ADM, if there is any sniff of a chance we have to be all over it. Imagine Neymar, Martial and Memphis in their pomp?
With Mata in the hole, giggling like a little demon puppeteer
there's a big difference to being happy and professional though
take joe blogs from with your average job - most of us do our jobs as well as we can and, i for one being an accountant by qualification, also have a professional code of ethics i need to adhere to. If i say, got my ideal job and worked as an analyst for Man Utd, i'd probably come into work happier, be more enthusiastic than were i work as an analyst for a slaughter house. Bit of an exaggeration i know, but my point is - being happy makes a big deal when it comes to doing the best you can and doing the best you can and enjoying it as no matter what you'll most likely work that bit harder if you enjoy it too.
but who's to say Neymar wouldn't be happy at Manchester. He'll be the main man, face of United, playing in front of 75,000 who would sing his name on a weekly basis (the love Ronaldinho gets from the OT crowd on Saturday was amazing and he isn't even an ex-united player, imagine what Neymar would get from us!) - and enough money to buy a la-ferrari once a month by the sounds of it!
I don't understand, what do they expect Barca to do? Pay the fine or what? I imagine that he will get a similar salary in Barcelona if he signs an extension, so how does moving clubs help them?
They're squeezing Barcelona. Having said that, you just never know with football. Our Lack of spending in the summer might have something to do with waiting and seeing.
His father is doing all the money talk, a well known greedy and shady bastard. He's probably trying to cover his own ass and run away from all these tax problems.
Someone with knowledge of the situation please answer. What does the tax issue have to do with a new contract? I thought the issue is that Barca are skint.
They are not skint, but they do have a dangerous wage to turnover ratio (~70% iirc). The way I understand it, both the Brazillian and the Spanish authority are after them for the tax evasion of the transfer, and if they end up paying for the whole thing+ the wage increase for Neymar they will be looking at ~ €100m, a very pricey renewal.
Either way it's good news for us, Neymar leaves because of the tax issues, in which case we are one of the very few clubs well primed to get him, or Barca's ability to compete for top targets is hampered because of the enormous outlay for his renewal.
Well, we are due a big lump of sponsorship money from the Qatari renewal.
Give him all the bloody money in the world
This actually reminds me of the Veron transfer, cracking player in his prime, South American, playing in the world's best league, have to leave because of a legal issue with the authority (visa/tax)
Let's hope it pans out better, whether Neymar leaves or stays. It would be a shame to see a player with his potential failing to reach the pinnacle of the game.
Let's hope it pans out better, whether Neymar leaves or stays. It would be a shame to see a player with his potential failing to reach the pinnacle of the game.
Neymar's bank account in Brazil is frozen with tens of millions he can't access. The dispute over his transfer is still ongoing there.
Those Barcelona players need to be saved from that toxic environment. Come to England and invest in movies or whatever it is that rich people do to get out of taxes there.
How moving to united would help his situation though?
Payrise and sign on bonus mofo!
True, true. I see it more as a negotiating tactic but you never do know
It's obviously a negotiating tactic. Asking Barca to compensate him for inevitable loses to the taxman both in Spain and Brazil. Problem is Barca have the same problem with Messi. And according to Balague, he's not sure Barca can do both at the same time. However, I think they will find a way. They have to.
agree with @FCBarca and @Adisa - this transfer is just not going to happen lads. All the reports about his dad stating this and that about the tax is a way of saying he wants a bigger contract, simple.
I'd much rather us be linked to De Griezman, something a bit more realistic but someone who can become a great player for United and would fit what we need as well
would i love Neymar here, course i would, just trying to keep it realistic
I'd much rather us be linked to De Griezman, something a bit more realistic but someone who can become a great player for United and would fit what we need as well
would i love Neymar here, course i would, just trying to keep it realistic
I'm not comfortable signing a player forcing a move away from barca just for the money, we're talking about arguably the best team in europe right now and he has a chance to win so much, what stops him from doing the exact same thing for us later?
I'd rather we go for players about to make the step up, like reus and griezmann.
I'd rather we go for players about to make the step up, like reus and griezmann.
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Our "lack of spending" was to do with us making huge offers and advances for numerous unrealistic targets. We were doing the exact opposite of sitting and waiting.
Neymar is younger then both of them.
From f365. Issue doesn't seem to be the tax problems he's in, it reads as if nobody has advised him on how to structre his taxes from here on in. If true that is ridiculous and reads as an excuse to leave and not be seen as the bad guy here. Surely any top Spanish accountant could advise him on exactly what to do. What's the big mystery?
I wasn't talking about their age, i meant they're about to make their big move, neymar is already at barca.
I'm sure we can do better than de Guzman
I'm topic, how long before we get our first £1m a week player? F'n beats reality, that's for sure.
What is the deal with his tax? Why the problems, does anyone know?
So he (he is not 10,you know) and his father make a mess and now they trying to force Barca to pay and clean their mess. If Barca refuse, they will start look for a club elsewhere ready to do so...and people want those 2 creatures to join us...
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