NFL 2015-2016

[Igor Drefljak]

@Sylar : No probs, I'll take a longer look. Thanks for trying though


Ok, one thing that has always puzzled me about the NFL, is it seems the whole thing is money motivated.
Take Revis and Asaunte Samuel as examples. Superbowl winners, but are / was more than willing to move to lesser teams, that in all honesty, won't be winning the Superbowl anytime soon, just to get a big pay day.

Now, don't get me wrong, I get that if people offer you a lot of money, it is hard to turn down, but when they are already on big wages, and to be fair, don't really need the money, why would they choose to end with a more than probable mediocre end to their careers, just for money

 

[gormless]

@Sylar : No probs, I'll take a longer look. Thanks for trying though


Ok, one thing that has always puzzled me about the NFL, is it seems the whole thing is money motivated.
Take Revis and Asaunte Samuel as examples. Superbowl winners, but are / was more than willing to move to lesser teams, that in all honesty, won't be winning the Superbowl anytime soon, just to get a big pay day.

Now, don't get me wrong, I get that if people offer you a lot of money, it is hard to turn down, but when they are already on big wages, and to be fair, don't really need the money, why would they choose to end with a more than probable mediocre end to their careers, just for money

From a few things I've read, football is a way out of the ghetto for a lot of players. Therefore, they go for the money rather than success as money has always been the motivating factor. Asante Samuel got a tattoo during his Pats contract negotiation that simply reads, "Get Paid"

 

[Eboue]

@Sylar : No probs, I'll take a longer look. Thanks for trying though


Ok, one thing that has always puzzled me about the NFL, is it seems the whole thing is money motivated.
Take Revis and Asaunte Samuel as examples. Superbowl winners, but are / was more than willing to move to lesser teams, that in all honesty, won't be winning the Superbowl anytime soon, just to get a big pay day.

Now, don't get me wrong, I get that if people offer you a lot of money, it is hard to turn down, but when they are already on big wages, and to be fair, don't really need the money, why would they choose to end with a more than probable mediocre end to their careers, just for money

Football is an incredibly brutal sport. The damage these guys do to their bodies is massive. Contracts arent fully guaranteed and the average career is like 3 years long. Any time they plant their knee could give way. Any time they block they can suffer brain injuries. Any time they get tackled or tackle they can get concussed. Careers can end in a single play or practice. As gormless says, these guys grew up very poor and most didn't get a good education because of all the hours put into the sport. The contracts are the rest of their lives.


There is actually a great documentary on how these guys get torn apart by vultures when they do actually get paid. Tons of them go bankrupt.

 

[De Selby]

I wouldn't blame Samuel for taking that big deal, though. He was coming to the end of his rookie contract and as a 4th round pick wouldn't have been making a boat load of cash.

Revis, on the other hand, has been minted since the second he set foot in the NFL.

 

[gormless]

Sheard is at the Pat's for a visit

 

[ha_rooney]

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mercenary cnut

Anyway he had a great season for us and did his job.

 

[gormless]

It was always gonna be a short term relationship. 1 year, go all out for the Superbowl and then most likely say bye at the end of the year

 

[MrMarcello]

Can't stand Twitter but some of the responses cracked me up. The Revis/Scrooge McDuck vid is genius.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...ency-gets-crazy-on-day-1-twitter-gets-crazier

 

[iSparky]

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Anyway he had a great season for us and did his job.

Just woke up and saw this. Shit

I like Revis though, nothing against him in fairness. He got what he wanted, a Super Bowl ring, we got what we wanted and this realistically was his last shot at a big deal.

Is there anyone left in free agency of decent value now? I'm hoping we sign Browner back to be honest now Revis is gone. Browner isn't a number 1 CB as such but he is a good player for size and strength.

 

[iSparky]

Cromartie is still out there. Wonder if he is an option the Pats are considering.

 

[Anderson's Cat]

Its disappointing but if you said a year ago that Revis would come in, help us win a Super Bowl and then take off we'd have taken it. Pity he's going to the Jets though.

 

[GloryHunter07]

Raiders sign Roy Helu, cant see us signing Murray now.

 

[De Selby]

Not surprised that Revis hit the road. The Pats were never going to fork out that guaranteed money.

In other news: Jason Worilds has retired at 27. He was a free agent and probably would have made between $6-8m per year from whomever signed him.

 

[gormless]

Just woke up and saw this. Shit

I like Revis though, nothing against him in fairness. He got what he wanted, a Super Bowl ring, we got what we wanted and this realistically was his last shot at a big deal.

Is there anyone left in free agency of decent value now? I'm hoping we sign Browner back to be honest now Revis is gone. Browner isn't a number 1 CB as such but he is a good player for size and strength.

The theory about letting Browner go is that he doesn't fit the system anymore now that Revis is gone. He brings physicality, but you need to cheat the safety over to his side to cover for him, which only works if you have a Revis/Sherman on the other side. Now that Revis is gone, the Pat's can't do that anymore

 

[Stobzilla]

So, Chip Kelly has gone mental. Naturally, I approve.

 

[adexkola]

I still can't believe the didn't let Lynch run the fecking ball.

This should be the first post in the thread

 

[Wittmann45]

Not surprised that Revis hit the road. The Pats were never going to fork out that guaranteed money.

In other news: Jason Worilds has retired at 27. He was a free agent and probably would have made between $6-8m per year from whomever signed him.

Very odd. Maybe the CTE/head injury studies are really getting to players. A number of guys who could conceivably play on for a number of years and make many more millions have retired within the last couple days

 

[JPRouve]

Ryan Mathews to the Eagles, per source.

 

[fishfingers15]

Eagles lol wut? I support Giants, so I can't laugh much.

 

[ha_rooney]

wtf, I've just read that Browner was made a free agent?! Completely missed this news.

AFC East should be fun next year. All teams around us making moves, Pats need to address the big holes at CB now.

 

[Phil]

I'd have taken Browner back..

I'm very excited by Graham at Seattle, one of my favourite TEs.

 

[JPRouve]

Eagles lol wut? I support Giants, so I can't laugh much.

What do you mean ?

 

[iSparky]

ESPN says that Tramon Williams and Patrick Robinson are listed as possible replacements for the Pats at CB with Revis now gone. Williams is due to visit the Saints and Robinson is attracting attention from the Vikings, Steelers, Panthers and Dolphins. Saints also interested in re-signing him.

 

[fishfingers15]

What do you mean ?

Nick Foles, Jackson, McCoy, those are good players who would like to play in Philadelphia.

 

[ha_rooney]

Pats signed couple of WRs (Kevin Dorsey & Brandon Gibson). Can't say I've heard of either of them, hopefully there's a bit of focus on recruiting on the defensive side now. RB also needs to be addressed.

 

[De Selby]

Jabaal Sheard and two rubbish receivers who'll be cut before training camp ends.

 

[Sylar]

haha shit, forgot about that shark.

Free agency has been fun!

 

[MrMarcello]

Bruce Carter goes to Tampa. Good luck, Bruce.

 

[KeyserSoze]

The theory about letting Browner go is that he doesn't fit the system anymore now that Revis is gone. He brings physicality, but you need to cheat the safety over to his side to cover for him, which only works if you have a Revis/Sherman on the other side. Now that Revis is gone, the Pat's can't do that anymore

It's a rubbish theory, to be fair. Especially when it comes to Earl Thomas and their mainly cover 3 concepts. Financials, as usual.

 

[GloryHunter07]

Very odd. Maybe the CTE/head injury studies are really getting to players. A number of guys who could conceivably play on for a number of years and make many more millions have retired within the last couple days

Worlids wants to do work with his church i think. Jehova's Witness.

 

[Mighty Boosh]

Free agency has been absolutely crazy this year, loving it!

Chip is either going to be an absolute hero or run out of Philly, apparently Murray is scheduled for a visit today not sure if they'll have room for him, Matthews and Sproles though. And whats gone wrong with the Saints? Many peoples pick for the Superbowl last preseason now appear to be in rebuild mode, Graham is gone and apparently they're open to trading anyone on the roster AFC East has had some influx of talent aswell, fun times ahead.

 

[GloryHunter07]

Free agency has been absolutely crazy this year, loving it!

Chip is either going to be an absolute hero or run out of Philly, apparently Murray is scheduled for a visit today not sure if they'll have room for him, Matthews and Sproles though. And whats gone wrong with the Saints? Many peoples pick for the Superbowl last preseason now appear to be in rebuild mode, Graham is gone and apparently they're open to trading anyone on the roster AFC East has had some influx of talent aswell, fun times ahead.

I actually wouldnt be that surprised if the Saints traded Brees.

 

[JPRouve]

Free agency has been absolutely crazy this year, loving it!

Chip is either going to be an absolute hero or run out of Philly, apparently Murray is scheduled for a visit today not sure if they'll have room for him, Matthews and Sproles though. And whats gone wrong with the Saints? Many peoples pick for the Superbowl last preseason now appear to be in rebuild mode, Graham is gone and apparently they're open to trading anyone on the roster AFC East has had some influx of talent aswell, fun times ahead.

I read that they have cap issues at some point they were 16m over the cap.

 

[ha_rooney]

DeMarco Murray apparently heading to Philly to sign with them.

 

[iSparky]

Saints are said to be pushing for Browner. Offering more than $5M per year. I would love to see him come back to us but I get the feeling that the Pats have moved on already.

 

[ha_rooney]

Saints are said to be pushing for Browner. Offering more than $5M per year. I would love to see him come back to us but I get the feeling that the Pats have moved on already.

Shame that. He might get called for flags, but his size and physicality is so useful and it was only when he started defending on Matthews that we were able to stop that cnut in the SB.

 

[iSparky]

Amendola contract has been restructured. $12.75M over 3 years. Can max out at $15M Great deal, fair play to him. He played really well towards the end of the season. Harvin is also going to visit the Pats too.

 

[JPRouve]

Ben Grubbs to Kansas City for 2015 5th round.

 

[iSparky]

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Damn it.

 

[iSparky]

Browner to the Saints confirmed. 3 year deal apparently.