They won yesterday because of their defense, where both Donald and Miller had two sacks each in a game that was decided by 3 points. So, I'd say he's pretty important to their success if they want to continue playing as they finished the season. McVay isn't a bad coach, but he clearly doesn't look at things from a long term perspective, which means he will be stuck in a cycle of having to cobble together trades for veterans with inflated salaries every couple of years to keep the Rams competitive. The Bengals on the other hand are building a monster that will probably have long term viability, mainly because they have drafted well and just made the SB with a ridiculous amount of cap space to play with next year.Why are you including Miller in this? He's a nice to have, let's not act like he was pivotal to their success this year on in years past (in which they regularly made the playoffs and went to the Super Bowl in 2018). Wouldn't matter much if he decided to leave LA right now.
You're prematurely jumping to conclusions about how McVay would handle a "rebuild" (still multiple seasons away from that point).
Miller is obviously good, but he is not needed for continuous success in LA. He was always gonna cause havoc against such a bad O-line yesterday.They won yesterday because of their defense, where both Donald and Miller had two sacks each in a game that was decided by 3 points. So, I'd say he's pretty important to their success if they want to continue playing as they finished the season. McVay isn't a bad coach, but he clearly doesn't look at things from a long term perspective, which means he will be stuck in a cycle of having to cobble together trades for veterans with inflated salaries every couple of years to keep the Rams competitive. The Bengals on the other hand are building a monster that will probably have long term viability, mainly because they have drafted well and just made the SB with a ridiculous amount of cap space to play with next year.
There's no disdain for the Rams as I've followed the franchise for nearly 40 years since the Dickerson era and have seen the good and bad teams over the years. There's just no long term sustainability to the way McVay is running the show here in that he is investing based on short term time horizons instead of creating a long term situation that he can leverage in years to come. Some might say that its ok because he just won the big game, but as mentioned before, once one of the key pieces leaves, he will be forced into repeatedly continue going back into the transfer market and eventually turn the Rams into the NFL's dumping ground for late stage veterans with inflated salaries, desperate for what they think may be a final shot at winning a Super Bowl. That's just not good business in that it is neither scalable, nor sustainable. The counter point to all of this is that one could say, NFL success is generally temporary and teams should try to be successful in any way they can, but I would want a longer term strategy that is sustainable for continued success, which McVay's approach is just not compatible with.Miller is obviously good, but he is not needed for continuous success in LA. He was always gonna cause havoc against such a bad O-line yesterday.
Not necessarily aimed at you, but I don't get the disdain for the Rams of some people because they build through adding established players rather than through the draft. There are multiple ways to success in the NFL and one is not better than the other. The Rams have apparently been in "win-now mode" since they "mortgaged their future" in 2016 by giving up all those picks for Jared Goff. Yet here they are 5.5 years later, with another QB, still at the top of the NFL. They have a strategy in place and it has been working for them so far. A first-round pick isn't worth nearly as much as some people think if it is between 25-32 or somewhere down there. With the LA pulling power, offensive players wanting to work with someone like McVay, they can have success like this in the foreseeable future, and that's what matters.
There is nothing noble about trying to build through the draft. The Jags have been trying to do so since forever and are still nowhere. The Bengals also only "drafted well" because they managed to suck enough in the right season to draft Burrow (which was a no-brainer) and then got "lucky" Burrow got injured and they once again had a top-5 pick to link him up with Chase again. They'll have one, maybe two years of Burrow's rookie contract left and then he'll be paid a very handsome amount of money. Cincinnati is a tough place to sell to free agents, maybe less so if you grant them an opportunity to play with Burrow and compete for rings but even then. The Bengals will rue this chance imo, they'll have to get past the likes of Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Lamar, Jones, ... each year if they wanna be back in the Super Bowl, there's no guarantees they'll be back soon.
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Les Snead is in charge of personnel at the Rams why you are jabbing Mcvay with this is a bit weird, he obviously has a say but not all of it.There's no disdain for the Rams as I've followed the franchise for nearly 40 years since the Dickerson era and have seen the good and bad teams over the years. There's just no long term sustainability to the way McVay is running the show here in that he is investing based on short term time horizons instead of creating a long term situation that he can leverage in years to come. Some might say that its ok because he just won the big game, but as mentioned before, once one of the key pieces leaves, he will be forced into repeatedly continue going back into the transfer market and eventually turn the Rams into the NFL's dumping ground for late stage veterans with inflated salaries, desperate for what they think may be a final shot at winning a Super Bowl. That's just not good business in that it is neither scalable, nor sustainable. The counter point to all of this is that one could say, NFL success is generally temporary and teams should try to be successful in any way they can, but I would want a longer term strategy that is sustainable for continued success, which McVay's approach is just not compatible with.
Exactly. One of the best corners in the game for 2 first-rounders is a no-brainer for me if you're planning on competing. I think the Jags drafted Chaisson and Etienne with those picks.Les Snead is in charge of personnel at the Rams why you are jabbing Mcvay with this is a bit weird, he obviously has a say but not all of it.
Also drafting at 32-25 or drafting in the second round is about the same.
Give me Ramsey and Stafford for multiple 1st rounders than the wasted picks and money on Sam Bradford, Jared Goff, Jason Smith, Tavon Austin, Alec Ogletree, Greg Robinson the list goes on and on
The Rams have had selected the 2nd highest number of players in the draft out of all 32 teams during the McVay era, they just utilize a lot of late round picks but the bulk of their roster is young and has been assembled through the draft. They trade away top picks but we can all agree that the likelihood of finding a player of Stafford's ability in the first round is unlikely so why not use the pick to go get the proven commodity? It may not be conventional but it clearly has worked and will probably now be imitated by a lot of other teams.There's no disdain for the Rams as I've followed the franchise for nearly 40 years since the Dickerson era and have seen the good and bad teams over the years. There's just no long term sustainability to the way McVay is running the show here in that he is investing based on short term time horizons instead of creating a long term situation that he can leverage in years to come. Some might say that its ok because he just won the big game, but as mentioned before, once one of the key pieces leaves, he will be forced into repeatedly continue going back into the transfer market and eventually turn the Rams into the NFL's dumping ground for late stage veterans with inflated salaries, desperate for what they think may be a final shot at winning a Super Bowl. That's just not good business in that it is neither scalable, nor sustainable. The counter point to all of this is that one could say, NFL success is generally temporary and teams should try to be successful in any way they can, but I would want a longer term strategy that is sustainable for continued success, which McVay's approach is just not compatible with.
Yeah thanks. It had to happen this year considering how the team is structured. With Higbee and OBJ getting injured I was really worried but Kupp was great down the stretch.Congrats mate. The Rams were definitely the most preferable team out of all the NFC contenders, and in the grand scheme of things, it's pretty nice to see a different team win it all.
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Haha, neither did any other DB against Kupp. Don't feel like she needs to troll the guy, even if he did an okay job.
You're assuming that the number 1 goal of the Rams as an organization is winning Super Bowls. It's not.There's no disdain for the Rams as I've followed the franchise for nearly 40 years since the Dickerson era and have seen the good and bad teams over the years. There's just no long term sustainability to the way McVay is running the show here in that he is investing based on short term time horizons instead of creating a long term situation that he can leverage in years to come. Some might say that its ok because he just won the big game, but as mentioned before, once one of the key pieces leaves, he will be forced into repeatedly continue going back into the transfer market and eventually turn the Rams into the NFL's dumping ground for late stage veterans with inflated salaries, desperate for what they think may be a final shot at winning a Super Bowl. That's just not good business in that it is neither scalable, nor sustainable. The counter point to all of this is that one could say, NFL success is generally temporary and teams should try to be successful in any way they can, but I would want a longer term strategy that is sustainable for continued success, which McVay's approach is just not compatible with.
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This aged well.While Stafford is better than Goff, I always felt like he's a mid tier qb at best, and his record vs teams with winning records shows that. He's not the qb you want in the post season when its just the best of the best left.
Odell is just a locker room cancer, he can't and won't replace Woods. His 4 career post season catches isn't going to push them over the other NFC powerhouses.
Wow, way to call me out haha.This aged well.
OBJ has done another ACL on the leg he already previously injured. Now he has his ring and is about to become a father, he may decide he is done. Also if you are a team you have to take into consideration he could be a gamble now.I haven't read the whole thread after the Superbowl.
So here's my question. What are the chances of Kupp, ObJ and Woods returning? That would be a great offense no?
Just bad at make-up. Her faces looks almost as orange as the dress.
That’s an odd criticism. If you look at her legs, which I don’t know why you wouldn’t, that’s her skin tone.Just bad at make-up. Her faces looks almost as orange as the dress.
Oh yeah… she’s got a face. Hadn’t noticed until thenJust bad at make-up. Her faces looks almost as orange as the dress.
FFS. The Vikings haven't named their linebacker coach yet.Well at least he has a NFL job while the legal stuff is ongoing. Good to see. Big step-down though.
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10-15How many more years does Tomlin have at the helm, y'all reckon?