Ollie Derbyshire
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It’s safe to say he’s been a huge disappointment so far. To have regressed this much, injuries outstanding, is shocking.
Ratcliffe is buying 25% of the club. He's changing feck all because the problem will still have 75% of the club. Anyone thinking anything's going to change once the deal goes through is in for a disappointment.Nothing will change until Ratcliffe comes in and changes the strategy from the top. Too much toxic noise around the club constantly.
Yes, a CEO who knew what he was doing off the pitch. Yes it was different.Ah so, it was different!
We bought players he wanted, thoughIt’s all down to recruitment, we’ve bought terribly and it always bites us on the arse..you could argue that our first 11 probably wouldn’t get on city’s bench
I think its been long enough that this isn't happening, although I agree with the bolded part. We do have DOF and DOTIt kinda proves my point though, you hire a DOF/DOT who actually has a scoobie doo and don't say yes to every player the manager wants.
We're basically trying to replicate Fergie.
José wanted Maguire and we said no then signed him after he went.I think its been long enough that this isn't happening, although I agree with the bolded part
But I still think a competent manager does a better job with 400m, we said no to Jose if you believe what the papers say.
I just think we have a shit manager to be honest
The board are shite as well, but they'll get lucky at some point and bring someone in who can bring in a couple players who hit the ground running, unfortunately ETH is not that man, I do not trust him at all with the rebuild
Yea i agree. If we had pep and city had ten hag, we would be doing much better and city wouldnt be doing as good.I think its been long enough that this isn't happening, although I agree with the bolded part. We do have DOF and DOT
But I still think a competent manager does a better job with 400m, we said no to Jose if you believe what the papers say.
I just think we have a shit manager to be honest
The board are shite as well, but they'll get lucky at some point and bring someone in who can bring in a couple players who hit the ground running, unfortunately ETH is not that man, I do not trust him at all with the rebuild
Things can change because somebody else will be in charge of the sporting side of things. Ratcliffe can implement the structure he wants.Ratcliffe is buying 25% of the club. He's changing feck all because the problem will still have 75% of the club. Anyone thinking anything's going to change once the deal goes through is in for a disappointment.
Well that's not true, one thing will change. The Glazers will be 1,3 billion richer.
Howe didn't sign his players, they have a director of football to do that. We for some reason let our managers sign our players. ETH had Overmars at Ajax.absolute tripe, you give a good manager 400m to spend and they spend it wisely and you fix issues
ffs eddie howe has managed it at Newcastle by following basic principles and not blowing 80 mil on a shite winger from the dutch league
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I rest my case
Fix the team, fix the board, fix the sporting directors, fix the stadium.I don't know what 'fix this' means, but another manager can certainly get us playing better. The job appears to have swallowed Ten Hag. He's looking lost out there.
Do we really need CEO, chairman, sporting directors in sync so that we can score a few goals and have a positive GD?Pep being elite tier carries them that extra 15 per cent.
Replace Pep with just a very good manager and City still win titles but not as many and maybe have an off season once in a while.
That's my point, the off field structure guarantees some form of success regardless of the managerial change. Our off the field structure is so broken that simply putting in a world class manager is not going to fix anything, just paper over the cracks.Pep being elite tier carries them that extra 15 per cent.
Replace Pep with just a very good manager and City still win titles but not as many and maybe have an off season once in a while.
Really yeah, it's little things that all add up to this. We've had periods where we've played quite well followed by even longer ones playing shite. We change the manager, by new players and end up back here.Do we really need CEO, chairman, sporting directors in sync so that we can score a few goals and have a positive GD?
I half agree with OP that the upper management is a problem but I just can't defend the brand of football this manager is serving after spending so much money on his OWN choice of players.
But that was us after 2 months of ETH as well. Short term means little.Must be difficult to accept that a group of players can be coached to play good football and work as a team in just a couple months, right?
Fair enough. But we are a football team. Surely we have to play well as an integral part of whatever else we're doing. It just doesn't look like it's working on the pitch right now. I get your point though. Everything really starts from the top.Fix the team, fix the board, fix the sporting directors, fix the stadium.
If the limit of our ambition as fans is just to "play better" then we really have fallen off a cliff.
Almost all managers will have a say, they wont just get given players.Howe didn't sign his players, they have a director of football to do that. We for some reason let our managers sign our players. ETH had Overmars at Ajax.
It helped for sure, but we shouldn't forget that we were one of the first clubs to really go deep down the marketing route, especially the international one. We were the financial top dog for a while which helped recruitment for sure. Obviously having Fergie was a main factor but it wasn't just him. Football has changed. Everything became more intertwined and complex. And beside us, there are so much more player in the recruitment market.Yea i agree. If we had pep and city had ten hag, we would be doing much better and city wouldnt be doing as good.
The buck stops with the manager. We were so good under ferguson because of ferguson.
They could probably point to points of progress though. My issue is that I see no progress, only serious regression and have no idea how it gets better with the way the team are playing at the moment and the players in the starting line-up.The only point that is in ETHs favour is that Arteta went through an even worse period of form. With no attacking style. Then it all clicked.
yeah because they are a basket case of a club like we are, not even in the same league.Spurs. Levy. Ange.
We could also praise ten Hag for signing a 5'8 centre back and it working for a seasonAlmost all managers will have a say, they wont just get given players.
"Eddie Howe was the chief driver of Newcastle's push to sign Gordon in January as he looks to bring younger players into his squad."
If you look at that Arsenal series, you will see that the owners are working with Arteta and Edu to buy the right players .. and the Arsenal owners have a history of winning ...The only point that is in ETHs favour is that Arteta went through an even worse period of form. With no attacking style. Then it all clicked.