I thought this in Dec 2019 and I think it now, well over a year later. Unfortunately, the players reflect the manager: good when things are happy clappy and a bit lost otherwise.
But it can happen. If it's once-off and we bounce-back then I'm not going to worry about it.
I never thought we were going to win the title. City have better players where it matters and have the recent experience of winning trophies. Ole has to pick them up now and the Arsenal game now depends how he is going to set them up. Him keeping Martial on and taking off Greenwood was a right baffler. He has to react quicker to what is happening on the pitch and make the necessary changes, even if it is in the first half or HT. These late subs are infuriating. We have made a lot of progress and the players obviously like him and are playing for him, but we know footballers are me first people and it can change quickly.
No. I would sack him if he ends up fighting for top 4 again. He offers no trophies. And top 4 fight is not good enough for a club of the size and the prestige of Manchester united.
Didn't have a problem with the team although I would have preferred Cavani to Martial. It was more that once it was obvious the team was not up for it, even Maguire admitted after the game that the intensity was not there, he delayed making changes. Martial should have been left in the dressing room at HT. He has to be ruthless, winners are ruthless, stop giving him another chance to do something. Then the next two changes should have been done not long after. What is he expecting them to do in ten minutes?
Agree that Cavani should've started, but was glad to see Martial back in striker position thinking he would make most of it after playing on the left last few matches.
I wouldn't sack him right now of course, but will be looking to appoint a new manager in the summer if we find one that we believe will take us to the next level.
Worst you've ever seen, and yet have clawed back 21 points from losing positions - over twice more than the next best team in Liverpool?
Southampton have been struggling of late and I can't see how Leicester are clearly better coached than us. I do think Ole can reach a higher level with the investment in the areas we need. These things do not happen overnight. Another manager, means going back to square one again. Who is the next gen manager you would appoint? Everyone pipes up and wants to get rid of Ole yet doesn't know who they wish to appoint?
Imagine saying this when we have come from behind this season to draw or win, more than any team in the PL this season. This suggests his in-game management is very good. Saying it is amongst the worst you have ever seen is therefore ignorant and extreme hyperbole.
Look at some of the losses that City, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Leicester have had this season. They have all lost to rubbish, bottom of the barrel teams, it happens, that is football. Even SAF lost to bottom-of-the-barrel teams and he is the greatest manager of all time.
He still won't be the man to turn us into an elite team again. But whatever, we will get there eventually one day.
Fair point! We’re in great form despite last night, as long as we bounce back this weekend it isn’t the end of the world.
We have to compare Southampton and Leicester squads to judge. Just to the eye test they develop better football than us attacking wise. They may not have the individual quality we have but the patterns are there for all to see.
That's it. Dominate the weaker sides. Look at City demolish West Brom. We have never been able to do that with Solskjaer in charge.
I have a lot of respect for Ole but sadly I'd prefer to see him gone. He deserves a lot of respect for where he has us but imo that's the best that we will be able to get to.
You're rewriting history here. Just because we scored one more than the opposition doesn't necessarily mean we scraped past them.
Yes but this is Sheffield United, who before last night, had a sum total of 5 points to their name all season.
What kind of logic is that? So our good run up until now was all the players credit, but as soon as we lose its the managers fault?
Perfectly. How many Sheff Utd players would you have wanted in our starting 11 last night? Zero.
These people have been waiting for a result such as this, like the miserable doom-thriving mushrooms that they are. We're second in the league, doing better than expected, second only to a team which is far stronger than us, and the management are back to being 'clueless' again. Standard caf hissyfit.
No, they haven't. They've lost a lot of their games by one goal. They pushed Liverpool for their win, and similarly City only beat them by the one goal.
The mindset of an Old outer I'm afraid. They wet the bed after 3 games of the season and threw the toys out of the pram and have had to eat humble pie since.
Well said. Excellent post.
Excellant post.
Great post.
Sure it's only by a goal here and there, but they still lost those games. They had lost 84% of their league games before last night.
I love how SAF example is always brought up. "Yeah I mean even SAF lost a game after being 2-0 up" "even SAF got knocked out of the UCL in group stage" etc etc yeah sure if you look into a 27 year career you'll find plenty of specific results and can use them as example as if those accidents are somehow ocurrent and its totally fair to compare a 27 year career with a 2 year one. Stop with those comparisons please, it's just insulting to Sir Alex.
