They aren't really different, if Pep and Klopp are vastly superior managers cleaning up the major trophies where exactly does that leave us? of course Ole can get lucky playing as he does but the odds are tremendously stacked against us as a club moving forward. Also mind me asking why you deem it acceptable to play a lesser playing style also? the squad we have is capable of sublime football yet to hell with that because we need to keep Ole in the job.
I don't agree with the cultural reboot thing either, but the manager who takes over from him will have a far better squad than he had - so I don't agree it will reset. We're primed to become a top team under the right management. Three years ago we were one step away from becoming a middle-table side.Cultural reboot
Everything he achieved so far is at present time and once he is gone, everything will reset again with our new manager, for worse of for better. I don't believe in this "Laying foundation" thing, if you bring someone like Jose and you will have toxic atmosphere in no time again, regardless of current state.
They got to a semi of the CL, how small is small? When did Potter or Howe do that? Let's get some perspective on the names people are randomly linking to the biggest job in England
With the kind of structure we have, the demands and the responsibilities from a manager, I'd say it's possibly the biggest job in the world.
What's mental about them exactly? I mean,you do seem to have faith in someone who's failing for 3 years straight,and had Cardiff relegated before that, so what's your hang up with these guys.
Isn't it slightly concerning the number of times we have to do that though? Before anyone misconstrues what I'm saying, bouncing back from bad results is obviously a good thing. But the number of times he does it to seemingly save his job (although I don't think he's ever truly been under pressure) surely isn't good.
Glad not to be the only one feeling like this.
We lost 1 league game in 6 months during the middle period of last season. 1 in 28 matches. Not sure it’s that concerning?
You just picked a random sample though? Another random sample is something like 11 wins, 8 defeats and 3 draws since the end of last April. That swings it slightly, doesn't it.
Other not so well known managers have also reached the champions league semis, that wasn't the reason Bayern wanted him.
Think you may have misconstrued what I'm saying here. I was talking about the fact that we do come back well from poor results and when he's seemingly under huge pressure, but it happens often. And a poor result isn't necessarily a loss. I was saying it's a good trait to have (much like coming from behind in games), but when it happens fairly often perhaps there's a problem there that is being papered over. Basically, now and then it's great. But when it starts to become a "thing" as it has done under Ole, perhaps that should be the issue that is focused on.
Yes and look at how that’s turned out.
What’s mental about them? Do I really need to explain that to you?
I know, I was just saying if we can give Ole who had achieved nothing in a proper league before us then why not give those other managers a chance.
Yeah that’s true, I thought you were saying Ole had been a roaring success from a smaller club.
Mate no. Cardiff was his premier league team prior to us. That was his premier league cv. I don't rate the Norwegian league, I wouldn't want us to sign the best manager from the Greek league either for instance.
Statistically, it happened to us less often than it happened to Liverpool last season, and we have lost less games than City over the last 2 seasons in the PL.
Especially when you look at the form of the players. Shaw is not quite at his peak but is still excellent. Varane oozes class. AWB's problem is that he's too defensive. DDG is in his best form for years. Only Maguire is bang out of form, but that shouldn't be enough for a defense this leaky.
Nonsense, if they had this squad and played the same football I would also be calling for their head. This team is too good to keep playing this poorly.
United ranked 1st last season for the number of points won from losing positions.
The thing is, by the end of his tenure, neither the 'in' or 'out' crowd will have been right about him. He hasn't really achieved what some said he would, nor has he been as bad as some said he would be. There's extreme hyperbole on both ends though, so I expect some wild exaggerations from both sides, to try convince the world that they were right all along.
Managers that do well in the CL or EL always end up moving to a bigger team. See Mourinho, Pochettino, Emery, Juande Ramos, Villas-Boas etc.
Think everybody was excited with the prospect of Sancho playing in front of AWB as that was where we desperately needed somebody. His handing of him is very strange. Although I have said somewhere else that even if he shoved him on the right, I think he needs more freedom that just being played as a rigid right/left winger.
To defend Ole with such a hypothetical situation is just nonsense
Dont be surprised if he is still here at the end of the season and we are out of Europe and battling to get into the top 4.
I share the same sentiment. We have done well so far but the next step is where we are struggling. I look at our current situation and it reminds me a lot of Arsenal's Wenger from 2009 to 2016. Nearly side but not good enough to win a major trophy.
Great post. Agree with all of this.
Do you remember how we got third in Ole's first full season or your memory checks out everything else and only remembers us getting third. Leicester practically imploded and Bruno became the Talisman from the first match.
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