Anyone criticising Ole for this is mental.
A lot of these players have been taking the piss for a long time.
A lot of these players have been taking the piss for a long time.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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I don't think Ole should be flayed for his selection decisions this season. Admittedly the talent pool is limited and though Young has been shit, Ole may have been scared to go with Dalot based on what he is seeing in training. Maybe Darmian's head is not here as well.
Next season is where we scrutinize him closely. He needs to be tough. Assume Young won't be used as much even if he hangs around, but Rashford is also not all that he is hyped to be, and Ole should be brave enough to get someone in to give him competition and rotate him rather than favoring him due to his local credentials.
Next season is where we scrutinize him closely. He needs to be tough. Assume Young won't be used as much even if he hangs around, but Rashford is also not all that he is hyped to be, and Ole should be brave enough to get someone in to give him competition and rotate him rather than favoring him due to his local credentials.
No it's obviously not all on Ole. But that doesn't put him beyond criticism.It's a Champions league quarter final and the likes of Young, Lindelof, Jones, McTominay, Fred and Lingard are (correctly given the alternatives) starting for us.
It's all on Ole that we're not beating Barca at the Nou Camp though.
At least you got something right today
I agree that he's not ready yet. In fact, I've defended Young being picked over him this season based on his RB performances.
However, Young has been absolutely terrible recently, and I think putting Dalot in tonight over Young would've been for the better.
Most of the players in our squad are not at the required level to compete at this level. We haven't had such a squad since Sir Alex left. Signing 2-3 players won't fix all the problem we have, not even close.
Then we should have signed a DOF. Lots of teams sign managers up at the end of the season.
Who persisted with Young despite being utter shite for months/years.
5 defeats in 7. Likely no more CL football this decade. Star players likely to leave. Young with a contract. Wage budget bust
I think we made a big mistake appointing him mid season at the heat of the moment, would we have done it right now?
It seems the spacejam water has ran off and he making a lot of mistakes, like a rookie manager does.
Said it before and saying it now, I don’t think Ole will know how to handle the pressure.
It seems the spacejam water has ran off and he making a lot of mistakes, like a rookie manager does.
Said it before and saying it now, I don’t think Ole will know how to handle the pressure.
People talk as if other managers have at least 5 options for each full back position.
Zinchenko's been playing LB for City this season - a 22 year old attacking midfielder
Zinchenko's been playing LB for City this season - a 22 year old attacking midfielder
I agree but let's be honest nobody is going to jumping to sign for us and We literally need a whole new squad.
Its actually unbelievable that its 2019 and we still have young, Jones and smalling as regular starters. None should be at the club now and because Woodward is literally thick as pigshit they've all been given contract extensions recently.....the mind boggles.
The club is rotten to the core it'll take years to sort this mess out. I wish there was a delete club option like on fifa because I'd be the first to press it and start from fresh.
It was a tall order so won't have anything against not going through. However starting Lingard and Young at this point, is a professional mistake
Judging by upcoming fixtures, decent chance that we'll be looking at 2 wins in 10 games fairly shortly.
He felt Young was the best choice when Shaw (who is our only good back) was suspended - give the man one window to buy a decent rightback for Christs Sake. Don't you think he doesnt know that Young isn't good enough ? But what can he do - would it be better with Dalot and Lindelöf ? Not very likely.
He hasn't been shit for years, don't be daft.
Delph or Laporte (both better options than Young) would play LB in a big game.People talk as if other managers have at least 5 options for each full back position.
Zinchenko's been playing LB for City this season - a 22 year old attacking midfielder
Embarrassing to watch.
Why these people are paid high wages?
Why these people are paid high wages?
Keeps persisting with Young.
And will Lingard stay on again? Another silent domination of non-domination from the master himself.
And will Lingard stay on again? Another silent domination of non-domination from the master himself.
I'm not sure there's much more Solksjaer could have done. We set out in the correct way I think. Pressed Barca high and didn't give them space to play. We created a couple of chances which we really should be converted.
Following our inability to convert is our penchant for brain farts in defence. That's not something you can legislate for as a coach. You can of course but better players, but we haven't had a chance to do that yet.
Following our inability to convert is our penchant for brain farts in defence. That's not something you can legislate for as a coach. You can of course but better players, but we haven't had a chance to do that yet.
I think Young is the key as Lingard's movement helped the initial attacks work but the basic premise is right. The tie was 3/4 done and I don't think we can hold the tactics against Ole here. We may be open at times but Barca are there to be hit on the quick counter so the setup isn't the problem, in fact, with a better side I'd advocate it being the right approach to beat them. It's the lack of quality from us in key positions (Young, for one) preventing it from working.
Do you think Sanchez or Lukaku would have been better? Dalot at RW? There just aren't that many options.
Yes and yes. We know without a doubt what we'll get from Young+ Lingard. Undoubted and consistent shit over and over again.
Seriously? That's Cardiff stats for Ole
I like Ole but playing Young instead of Dalot is a disgraceful decision imo.
People keep saying to me, give him a transfer window and then judge. I’m sorry but what historical achievement has ole had to justify a war chest that could be available to a manager with that proven track record. If he gets the war chest and wastes it, we will be put back by 5 years or so, especially with the Glazers holding the purse strings.
I’m sorry to bring this to your attention guys but nothing we are doing makes any commercial sense.
Ole doesn't have the pedigree to see us cross the paths with the likes of Klopp and Pep and be victorious. He's not shown enough to merit becoming the manager on a permanent basis much of our results before the PSG ties we rode our luck throughout the performances
Since ole has been appointed we have been outplayed by Wolves twice, battered by West ham (home), battered by Watford (home), loss against Arsenal, loss against Barcelona looking like a double. This is the same Barcelona who were knocked out against Roma they have vulnerabilities in their team.
The most pressing concern is the standard of football we are seeing week in week out. We have looked dreadful at Old Trafford throughout the majority of Ole's tenure, I cannot understand the Glazer's way of thinking. Should have waited until the end of the season assess the options critically and decide. There's nothing to say that we back Ole with 300 million and he returns success on field ?
Job is to big for him in my opinion.
Since ole has been appointed we have been outplayed by Wolves twice, battered by West ham (home), battered by Watford (home), loss against Arsenal, loss against Barcelona looking like a double. This is the same Barcelona who were knocked out against Roma they have vulnerabilities in their team.
The most pressing concern is the standard of football we are seeing week in week out. We have looked dreadful at Old Trafford throughout the majority of Ole's tenure, I cannot understand the Glazer's way of thinking. Should have waited until the end of the season assess the options critically and decide. There's nothing to say that we back Ole with 300 million and he returns success on field ?
Job is to big for him in my opinion.
And who would you have him starting instead? Dalot defensively is not ready yet, we saw that against West Ham. And Lukaku Rashford and Martial in the same side has rarely worked. Its all good criticising the manager but he is not the one who led us into this position.
Mourinho wanted the likes of Willian and Perisic. Atleast we are being linked to some exciting players like Sancho, Bruno Fernandes etc. Of course, all rumors aren't true but they often do hint at the type of targets we look at. Even if Ole fails, I don't think we could go wrong targeting that profile of player.
I think Phelan would have been better than Lingard.
The question is, had we waited until the end of the season to make a decision, would he still have been offered the job?
At least it was only a 3 year contract.
I’m sticking with my previous guess of gone by next Christmas.
I’m sticking with my previous guess of gone by next Christmas.
Watch what Young does from our free-kick to their goal and tell me he deserves to play this game before Dalot or Darmian. He was terrible vs Wolves, useless in the first leg vs Barca and he plays again!? Unbelievable...
I wouldn’t jump on him yet.
Young and De Gea mistakes ruined a good start for us. I know some might say that he hadn’t a right starting Young but still.
Can’t really blame the downfall our game on two clusterfecks.
Young and De Gea mistakes ruined a good start for us. I know some might say that he hadn’t a right starting Young but still.
Can’t really blame the downfall our game on two clusterfecks.
No probably not.
I agree but Moyes was linked with some great young ‘right’ players too. It’s all well and good leaking the ‘right’ names to the press but we have to actually get them over the line.
Got to love the loyalty of the Redcafe.
And I think he is back from suspension against Everton where he is nailed on to start.
I don't think so. Even this place would have been 50-60% in favour of giving it to someone else by now. But lo and behold we gave him so we now have to act like we know for sure he is the right man and shout down those with reservations
I'd play Darmian ahead of Ashley fecking Young and yeah I'd play Dalot, who despite his deficiencies, is no way worse than Young who is hopeless and finished. There is no upside to playing Young, he ain't never getting better, at least Dalot could learn from this experience and grow as a player.
Don't even get me started with Lingard who is shying away from the ball and loses it when he gets it. It's all too predictable but OGS does feck all to change it. Our club is fecked up and will be for a long while.
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