Shame its too little too late to affect a title race though
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Shame its too little too late to affect a title race though
I'm surprised people are still suprised. It's something we'll have to get used to as he won't be sacked any time soon. We won't win anything major with him
A back 6 at the expense of a midfield is not defensive to you?
That was as Jose as it gets.
I love the guy but think he smiles a bit too much after every game no matter the result.
Absobloodylutely spot on.
Alright, we can thank Leicester for being shite then.
Is better late than never, should have completely slated them after the Sheffield United game.
It was simpler to shift to 4 at the back if he wanted an attacker in the game to win it. Instead it was Giroud and Mount as the nominal attackers and Mount is utter shit.
Drawing 0-0 away at Chelsea, look at the agenda driven nonsense in here, just seen someone call Ole as defensive as Mourinho if we’d have won 3-0 it would have been individual brilliance, if you’re on the fence look at the reaction to this result. Disgraceful some of these Ole Outers, remind me of the scousers i know at work.
When did we play a back 6?
Mctominay and Fred both played in central midfield, they both offered excellent defensive protection (the thing that everyone hear moans that Pogba doesn’t do), and also both went forward (Fred almost scored a pileddriver, Mctominay also nearly scored and should have had an assist at the end).
What game changing attacking sub do we have on the bench?
Results has nothing to do with tactics though. Plan was to target our left side as Shaw will be bombing up and isolate Maguire against pacy players. They almost had it with Giroud chance and Werner chance ( last minute tackle from Lindelof) . We could have easily avoided it by putting on Telles or Bailey.
Firstly you get more prize money for finishing 2nd than you do 3rd. Then, you also are classed as the 2nd best team in England, not the 3rd. In addition, you’re classed as the runners up, not 3rd or 4th. So your claim it “doesn’t matter“ is nonsense.
Secondly, people are complaining were not putting up a suffficient title race. I hate to break it to you, but to put up a sufficient title race, you’d need to match Man City. To do that, you’ve guessed it - you’d need to match their form. Hows their form I hear you ask? 20 wins on the bounce.
Thirdly, your third point suggests we should match City’s results. Are you suggesting we win 20 on the bounce, as per my 2nd point?
If this is one game then yes, it was logical to play on 0-0 and this is pretty good result. But problem is that he is playing on 0-0 from day one in these matches. Last year he managed to get something because he was unknown by other managers but now all managers in PL know what they must do.
And now we have 2 problems.
1) In PL doesn't stand the rule that "you win league in small games". Because 30% of games are big games and you must win some of them.
2) In knockout phase of cups you can't play on 0-0 and wait for counter. So i doubt that we can win FA or EL. City in FA will just spin the ball around like they did in LC and score sooner or later. In EL there is plenty of tough teams to beat and with this tactics, we will fail sooner or later
Most would have been over the moon if he came here and took Ole's job. Seeing people wanting Allegri in, after crying about us taking an important point in a difficult away match is quite funny.
We've conceded one penalty goal in the last 6 games against the top 6. Any credit for that?
Might aswell get them. Atleast they are better managers and apparently the fanbase love this football.
Greenwood is the easiest one to replace
Ole is perfect for the glazers as long as he gets top 4. We are a business and they could not care less about trophies unlike Roman or the Arabs.
Ole is happy to be here and will never put pressure on them to spend the money unlike LvG or Jose.
Watch us spend 60m again this summer and struggle to get top 4 next year
Just shy of a year since we scored a goal from open play against the big 6. Any discredit for that?
Yep
Can't remember the last time we dominated a big game in the premier league and won really well. Leicester last season? but i'm not sure that was all that convincing.
Worth remembering we're second place and favourites for the EL but I don't remember a time when we didn't either win with a thunderous counter attacking display or just try and nick an edgy, cagey game (Jose tactics).
Worth remembering we're second place and favourites for the EL but I don't remember a time when we didn't either win with a thunderous counter attacking display or just try and nick an edgy, cagey game (Jose tactics).
So, 2 goalscoring chances in 90 minutes? And your idea of solving the issue is to sub our best defender for Telles?
Conte has been quite attacking this season, his side is surprisingly entertaining.
If those are the stats you aspire to see tagged next to United, while we drift further and further away from the top... sure thing
We’re mid-rebuild mate, why are you fretting? We’re not as good as Man City. I could have told you that before Kick off, i Could have told you that before the season started. Is it Ole’s fault? No. Theyve assembled their amazing squad of world class talent over 6 years, they have the best manager on the planet. We’re on our own journey, 2 years in. I’m really quite content with 2nd, considering we were 3rd last season, 6th the season before.
What? I'm saying thank Arse for beating Leicester away because we would now be third. You said it's not about Arse being good it's about Leicester being crap. So I said thank Leicester for being crap.
Christ.
A draw against Chelsea and "world class manager" Tuchel and the moaners are out in full force again. Did people expect we were going to batter an in form Chelsea?
A draw against Chelsea and "world class manager" Tuchel and the moaners are out in full force again. Did people expect we were going to batter an in form Chelsea?
Exactly, people are not getting it. 2-4 doesn't matter. Just show some balls and go for it.
Leicester apart from us are the second best team in the league. They’re having a great season with some cracking players. They’re clearly not crap.
Does 2-5 matter by any chance?
Of course. But we're playing a kid in Greenwood and James in attack. I'm not expecting a flurry of goals personally.
These are moral trophies.
No one gives a shit who finished 2nd in a one horse race title. No one will give a shit about the "2nd best team in England" when the gap between the first and second is 12 points. No one gave a shit about this when we finished 2nd 19 points away from City few years ago, and no one cared about City last season when they finished 2nd 18 points away from Liverpool. These only get any kind of importance when you're actually challenging for the league, we're not. It's a one horse race so yeah, 2nd from 4th in this situation doesn't matter except boosting some egos here. Neither us nor Leicester, Chelsea or whatever are challenging City. No one will care for us or them.We have lost 5 points against the two teams at the bottom of the league and 2 points against Everton when we were leading 2-0 at half time. Get these 7 points and we would be 5 points away from first spot and a possibility of title challenge would still be on.
It's our responsibility that the gap reached 12 points. We aren't at 12 points gap just because City won 14 games in a row. We're where we're because we fecked up in very easy games. We have ourselves to blame.
United has a good enough squad and team to challenge for the league and we were showing that till we fecked up once we actually found ourselves leading the league.
McTominay and Fred sat camped on the halfway line for the first 65 minutes with Maguire and Lindelof about a metre away.
That is essentially playing as a back 6. For those first 65, they barely supported the attack and hardly ever ventured forward front the aforementioned position. This left Bruno as the sole midfielder ahead, and left us without a midfield in the middle, despite being near their box, McFred stayed at halfway.
That is not good enough.
Really good post match interview, got his points across about the decisions we’ve not been getting without saying something that would get him in trouble. He also spoke about us struggling to show quality in the final third which I think we’d all agree with.
No, I didn't say who to sub out. What I said was back 5 was something he always preferred last year which was working like a charm. For some weird reason, he doesn't do it any more .
Only 2 chances is bit of an exaggeration. It was a dire game and chances were hard to come by.
We play a 4231 like many teams, I don't agree with your analysis at all, but I guess that's football and we're all entitled to opinions.
You win some, you lose some with these big games right?
The problem is that we haven't won any
The problem is that we haven't won any
Do people actually enjoy our football under him?
Well then, that brings us back to my original post.
"We can thank Arsenal we aren't third today too".
Because they beat Leicester away who apart from us are the second best team in the league. They’re having a great season with some cracking players. They’re clearly not crap.
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