If it means the next appointment is a good one, this is actually the lesser of two evils imowat
Ole Sack Watch
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So I assume people are also advocating for Carrick, Mckenna, and Phelan to go as well? Always seemed an underwhelming coaching staff to me. And it's all well and good people saying "you don't see what's going on behind the scenes" but we can see what's happening on the pitch, and it's not great.
And it's not all on Ole. Carrick and Mckenna were here before he arrived and the complaints about our football now are the same as they were before Ole came in. And considering that he supposedly leaves the coaching to them, it's pretty damning.
I'd part ways with the lot of them personally.
And it's not all on Ole. Carrick and Mckenna were here before he arrived and the complaints about our football now are the same as they were before Ole came in. And considering that he supposedly leaves the coaching to them, it's pretty damning.
I'd part ways with the lot of them personally.
Yes. I'd prefer they were sacked first.
Darren Fletcher as a care taker
But, give it to Rooney or Giggsey
But, give it to Rooney or Giggsey
We remembered the safe word.
I don't understand this thing about rating Ole as a man manager and disregarding the whole coaching thing. As if being not a "tactical" manager was as easy to solve as hiring good coaches.
I mean as successful as the coaches may be the manager is the one setting their print on the team. Would top managers struggle if they lose their coaches? I mean they always renovate their coaching staff and their "print" is still there. Coaches such as Sir Alex, Ancelotti, Pep, Klopp, were never dependable on their coaching staff.
The whole argument about Ole needing better coaches to perform is awful in the sense that himself must be a better coach for it to work. There's no way a manager that's so poor in coaching finds success, at this level at least, just by getting a great coaching staff. Much more than just man management is needed. Specially when competing against arguably the best 3 managers in the world at the moment.
Fletch being described as a ”strong candidate” has more than a whiff of the entire Roy family pitching Logan for his job. “Ed. Ed-case. The Edmeister General. You know the way last time around we got in a under-qualified former player who ‘got the club’? Well get this. What about a completely unqualified former player who also gets the club? Anyway, call me when you get this.”wat
Poor Ole might as well be packing up his bags back to Norway now
He's lost the squad completely. Bruno and Pogba coming out with the statements about the coaching is incredibly damning. Ronaldo is silent, but on his pitch tactics show he is very frustrated with the management. I don't think Ronaldo would speak out against Ole out of respect for Fergie, but he doesn't look happy one bit.Tweet
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The unchanged team selection and Ole's comments about us somehow having had a good first half performance against Atalanta with that side was as ominous as it gets
He's an excellent manager and would be a good option for sure.
What about Phil Nevillely?
He looked like he was fighting off a smirk all the way through his post match interview
Fletch to see out the next 3 matches followed by Conte after the break makes sense unless Carrick and McKenna are involved too. Those two need to pack their bags as well.
Fletcher as care taker until we can get our diamond Southgate
Van Gaal picked him there in his first game in charge in August 2014.
Southgate is a name
How much the bets?
How much the bets?
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Sack Ole and bench Meguire/Fred..engage replacement with someone who knows strategy.. we play like headless for a long time.
Absolutely. The main issue with this team is the coaching and they're the ones responsible for that. I don't see how sacking Ole but keeping the coaching staff makes any sense.
You could maybe even make the arguement that they're more culpable than Ole. Like you said, I don't think Ole has that big a hand in the coaching. I reckon he sees himself more as a Fergie type man manager, primarily focused on keeping up the morale and managing the squad. And up until this season, he has done that fairly well.
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A vibes man with little or no tactical acumen? We’d certainly look like we had a type anyway.
If ZZ or Conte are first choice, get them in now. If it’s Poch or Ten Hag, give Blanc a massive wage to caretaker the season.
"Giggsy"?
Feck a caretaker, we've had one for 3 years. If the technical director hires himself, I don't know what to say...
This club will never cease to amaze me with its nepotism. Its like we completely ignored Liverpools demise. We go through each day without any plan whatsoever.
This club will never cease to amaze me with its nepotism. Its like we completely ignored Liverpools demise. We go through each day without any plan whatsoever.
Mike Bassett is available for a short term gig.
Quite frankly if we could secure Conte (yes I know he isn't as ideal as Ten Haag but at least available) then we should pull the trigger in the next couple of days and not wait until the bloody international break after the City game
Same. Ole deserves his share of the blame for appointing them of course, but they have been totally out of their depth.
These are the guys actually coaching the team, taking the sessions, every fans gripe on here with our coaching should be directed to these guys every bit as much as the manager. They've been shite, if anything Ole's man management and knack of previously getting a response from the players has kept them in a job as long as they have been. I think he will be furious with himself for not getting fully established/experienced coaches in place, Phelan aside.
I'm not blaming them instead of the manager, the buck stops with Ole 100%. Just think he will regret bringing in Carrick and Mckenna with zero experience between them.
Only Phelan can stay.
Come on.
They're nailed on or trophies and a good run in Europe. He's also in with a great chance to be Peps successor. His competition for the Barca job is Xavi once Koeman gets the inevitable sack. If he turns down United, he'll still have plenty of offers.
But only if he gets the shorts out of storage.
Who are Manchester United coaching staff?
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has defended his coaching staff at Manchester United amid mounting scrutiny. Solskjaer entrusts Michael Carrick and Kieran McKenna with overseeing the coaching sessions at United's Carrington training complex, which his assistant manager, Mike Phelan, does not get involved in.
So what does he do ?
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has defended his coaching staff at Manchester United amid mounting scrutiny. Solskjaer entrusts Michael Carrick and Kieran McKenna with overseeing the coaching sessions at United's Carrington training complex, which his assistant manager, Mike Phelan, does not get involved in.
So what does he do ?
Only in shorts
So let's sack Ole and then we can go back on the moral high ground by saying sowwy. Club owners know exactly what they are doing when sacking a manager and they don't take that lightly. Also note that Ole has been at the wheel for the past 3 years not the past 6 games
Didn't Phelan admit he doesn't do any coaching? I've always wondered why he was brought back. To be a mascot and remind the fans of the good ol' days?
It will be a horrible miracle (maybe disaster is the right word) if Ole is leading this team against City. I will be horrified.
Yes, you could just about detect it hidden behind the vacuous insincere drivel he was spouting.
Can only hope then the new manager wipes that smirk off his face with a healthy dose of schadenfreude.
Ofcourse you'll need a caretaker...you can't expect a new manager to come in straight away! Contracts will need to be drawn up, the right compensation package and legal need to be involved. This takes time!
Then you have the small matter of the new manager actually moving country, you can't just uproot your family and children in a moment's notice.
Then you have the small matter of the new manager actually moving country, you can't just uproot your family and children in a moment's notice.
Fletcher will be interesting, if it goes well after a few months they could give him the job full time.
Blanc is interesting, haven't seen him mentioned at all. Any other decent caretakers available right now?
I still think we have an incredibly talented squad and we shouldn't write this season off. If Conte is okay with a two year (1.5 year really) deal then he can effectively be the caretaker in case things don't go well. Sacking him in the summer won't be very expensive.
Shouldn't be even against Spurs
If we go for Southgate I quit football
Weren't they already in place? Persisting with them seems to be the issue.
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