Yakuza_devils
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He easily have the most mistake of any 1st choice GK in Man Utd as far as I remember. He made too many comical mistakes in one season.
Tbf though, how many previous Utd keepers had to face 20+ shots every game?He easily have the most mistake of any 1st choice GK in Man Utd as far as I remember. He made too many comical mistakes in one season.
I actually think that the ‘great moments’ and his mistakes are connected - he has a tendency to make routine saves look like worldies because he’s *only just* saving them, usually because he’s reacting so late or he was in a bad position to begin with. Sometimes a shot will be going straight towards him and he’ll dive dramatically into the air to push it over the bar when a more competent keeper would simply have caught the ball, no muss, no fuss.Such a frustrating keeper. Not really a descriptor you want of a goalkeeper. Steady Eddie, consistent, these things would be better. Not somebody that combines great moments which shite that cost you goals.
I'm seeing this a lot and while i think there's no denying that in terms of long range passing it hasn't been as good as we thought it would be there is a huge difference between how both keepers receive the ball and how they pass short range. DDG gave off serious 'don't give me the ball' vibes, Onana for the most part exudes confidence with the ball at his feet, and his first touch is great. That's been the best part of having a new keeper for me and I noticed it particularly from the game against Arsenal early in the season.Yes it was thanks to Onana that Gvardiol and Ortega made a total feck up gifted us a goal and then made Walker to forget to defend.
All that in 24% possession of the ball that we enjoyed, yeah Onana definitely contributed to much of that with his 49% pass completion, compared to 49% of DDG last year.
Lots of posters on here driving the same narrative, but you take the biscuit easily,.
I certainly not deny that Onana is more comfortable in possession, it’s the overrating part that is annoying. As i pointed out exact same completion rate and 2 more passes than DDG last year. Onana had feck all to do with how well we played, gave his best to feck it up at the end that is agreed.I'm seeing this a lot and while i think there's no denying that in terms of long range passing it hasn't been as good as we thought it would be there is a huge difference between how both keepers receive the ball and how they pass short range. DDG gave off serious 'don't give me the ball' vibes, Onana for the most part exudes confidence with the ball at his feet, and his first touch is great. That's been the best part of having a new keeper for me and I noticed it particularly from the game against Arsenal early in the season.
No one should be denying there are some serious concerns about other areas to his game though. For me personally, i'd like to see us get a very good back up keeper to give him some competition next season as the jury is still out if he can be United's number one for years to come.
I agree with the bolded part. While cheapish would be great, if we have to spend then let it be so. GK is one position where you absolutely need consistency and a pair of safe hands.Onana doesn't have the composure and consistency to be our #1 long-term.
We need a new GK to challenge Onana. Someone cheap-ish so we can invest in more important positions.. I personally would have gone for Keylor Navas last season since Raya was already headed to Arsenal. Navas is incredibly underrated possibly because of his size. He showed that he still had it at Forest.
If Martinez and Shaw are healthy next year and we replace Varane, I expect Onana to have a much better year....potentially even one where people like myself and others happily say we were wrong about him based on the first six months.The only reason I'd keep him is because I don't like writing players off after 1 season. I like to see players get 2 seasons to prove themselves.
But yeah, this season has been about as bad as it realistically could have been. So many mistakes, so many soft goals conceded that he could have saved. And worse than that, he seems to have some real technical weakness in his shot stopping that means it's likely going to be a long term issue.
Remember the final straw for De Gea was conceding 2 soft goals in the FA Cup final last year that a top keeper should save. And Onana follows that up this year by conceding an even softer goal in this year's cup final.
I do think at points he's been harshly judged whereby people are blaming him for every single shot that goes in. But overall a pretty bad season.
I mean, look at what we got Schmeichel and VDS for - many other examples in today's market. The GK market is an interesting one, especially if we consider our financial situation and upgrades required up the pitch. If Keylor Navas can replicate his form for his recent clubs that's more than good enough for a side challenging for top 4, IMHO.I agree with the bolded part. While cheapish would be great, if we have to spend then let it be so. GK is one position where you absolutely need consistency and a pair of safe hands.
I was sort of combining all his decent ball playing into one as part of the "great" descriptor. May as well be generous at this point...I actually think that the ‘great moments’ and his mistakes are connected - he has a tendency to make routine saves look like worldies because he’s *only just* saving them, usually because he’s reacting so late or he was in a bad position to begin with. Sometimes a shot will be going straight towards him and he’ll dive dramatically into the air to push it over the bar when a more competent keeper would simply have caught the ball, no muss, no fuss.
If you play like that, and when you face as many shots as our defence allows, eventually one of those easy shots will go in and he’ll be exposed.
You should have seen Schmeichel in the 1st half of the treble season. Comical mistake after mistake.He easily have the most mistake of any 1st choice GK in Man Utd as far as I remember. He made too many comical mistakes in one season.
Actually think he was much better on the ball with Lisandro in front of him.Hasn’t really shown the ability on the ball we saw in the UCL final last year either which I think is a lot do the reason why a lot of us wanted him. He isn’t a serious problem so he’ll do for now.. he hasn’t exactly had the easiest first season so you never know, he could improve.
Basically, yes.We have far bigger issues to address.
I keep hoping that and then we sign someone like Mason Mount.It will be interesting to see how we adapt our play next season. His on the ball play has largely been great in flashes and ultimately the strength of that is supposed to mitigate his other weaknesses. If anything, ETH has him adapt more than the other way this season. Hopefully next season, whoever the manager is, we more deliberately shift to a possession based system and we see more of what he does best helps us score more goals.
He faces an average of 5 shots on target per game out of that 20+.Tbf though, how many previous Utd keepers had to face 20+ shots every game?
He also has the highest save percentage in the league. He’s made quite a few mistakes no doubt, most of them coming in the CL but he’s been nowhere near as bad as some are making out. With what could be a limited budget for the summer window there’s far more pressing areas that need addressing before we spend a good chunk of the budget on another goalkeeper. I’d give him another season with hopefully a settled defence in front of him and see how things go, if he’s still making errors on a regular basis then shift him on next summer.He faces an average of 5 shots on target per game out of that 20+.
Bearing in mind the mistakes he's made this season, if I was the opposition manager I'd be getting my forwards to shoot as much as possible.
Unfortunately for Onana, and us, there's always an error waiting just around the corner!