I swear they had more comedy situation this season alone than Jones and Smalling ever had.Shaw and Harry are beyond saving.
Agreed, he hasn’t shown he can do that at all.I'm convinced that Maguire will never fit into a back 4 that plays a high defensive line.
If Jones stayed fit for 35 games a season, he would be a much better player than Maguire. He is a better player by all accounts, but staying fit is as important as everything else obviously. Jones has respect for the line and understands defending, he knows his shortcomings too. Maguire is arrogant and naive to the fact that he is slow and clumsy, he makes risky moves like the one earlier in the game when he got carded. On another day, that’s a red for not paying attention or knowing where the danger is. Jones also heads the ball when it’s on the ground, unlike most.Harry maguire = Phil jones.
No discernible difference in calamitous decision making.
I don’t think it really matters either way, apart from Varane everyone else is average or worse.The goal was disappointing again. Wouldn't mind seeing the Varane/Lindelof pairing. Still not convinced what our best back four is though.
You know we will. No way will we let a player we signed for so much money leave on a free after a few years.If we offer Maguire a new contract....
We were (are?) supposedly ready to give him a pay rise around the time we gave the other guy a 3-year deal. ShockingYou know we will. No way will we let a player we signed for so much money leave on a free after a few years.
Double his money and tie him down on a 6 year contract. We want him here for his golden years tooIf we offer Maguire a new contract....
They had zero attempts in the 1st half, didn't they? We are clearly much better. Got done by our finishing and Maguire being Maguire.We look worse than last year.
Your right, we are solidThey had zero attempts in the 1st half, didn't they? We are clearly much better. Got done by our finishing and Maguire being Maguire.
That's not fair to Jones. Injury proneness destroyed Jones career. He never had chances to develop his game while losing the physicality of his game. The psychological aspect is no joke too.Harry maguire = Phil jones.
No discernible difference in calamitous decision making.
This. Until it happens, our defence will be an issue.Maguire needs to be sold
Agree, tooeasy to get round theback due to our full backs positioning along with lack of protection from the midfield and then we havecentr backs who cant defend the area from balls out wide.Sure, Maguire's not playing to his level, but his level isn't good enough anyway and he places too severe tactical limitations on the team. I hope we get rid. But we are also needing to address the full back positions. I don't think Telles is anywhere close to good enough defensively, Shaw is too mercurial, and Wan-Bissaka is just not competent enough on the ball. For a modern progressive side, this is one hell of a problem.
We are fielding a back 4 where 3 of the 4 are not good enough and Lindelof is actually the most competent of the lot (whom I'd certainly have as a third choice centre back if things were optimal). Of course, they are not shielded by a DM and they are ahead of a keeper who is uncomfortable off his line.
The defense is so far from being settled it's tragic. 130m spent on two players who do not fit into a modern style. Madness.
You probably start from scratch (as Mourinho mentioned: It's easier to start from scratch). If there is not plenty of money available, you retain all the promising young players at the club with no loans and shed at least half the squad both making some money that way and clearing out toxic elements.Agree, tooeasy to get round theback due to our full backs positioning along with lack of protection from the midfield and then we havecentr backs who cant defend the area from balls out wide.
I disagree on Lindelof though,maybe a decent squad options but his flaws are alawys exposed as soon as we play a decent side.
Where do you even start as a new manager in the summer? I barely see a 5 a side team of starters. We talk of priorities, but the defence almost needs rebuilding, the whole midfield certainly does and we will also uregently need attacking additions this summer.
Seriously hopeall these players supposedly unhappy and wanting to leave are....and do along with the contracts ending. Take away the new signings and youngsters, Im tired of pretty much all of the rest individually let alone as a team, the backing on some of these threads of underperforming or/and truly mediocre players baffles me
I totally agree, we cando it too as we have a huge squad of 36odd and several could leave from there own choice.You probably start from scratch (as Mourinho mentioned: It's easier to start from scratch). If there is not plenty of money available, you retain all the promising young players at the club with no loans and shed at least half the squad both making some money that way and clearing out toxic elements.
Honestly, we could be seeing Lingard, Pogba, Matic, Mata, Ronaldo, Cavani, Bailly, Jones, Henderson, DVB, Martial, all leave. I'd definitely sell one or both of Shaw/Telles, I'd seriously look to offload Maguire as it's just not feasible to carry him as a squad player given his captaincy status and cost, it's a high profile mess. It's unrealistic to offload de Gea, but we most definitely shouldn't be extending his deal. If we can offload AWB, great.
Admit that the last 8 years have been an absolute shit show and that it's time to start completely afresh. We've got quite a few young players we can bring into the team. If we're out of the CL next season we can deprioritise whatever European competition we're in for the youngsters, which would mean 6 group games. Having just a small squad for the league.
That's what I'd like to see anyway.
Yeah get Rudiger, oh hang on he will sign for a Champions League sideMaguire needs to be sold
Yeah, totally agree. Especially that last sentence. We need to start again.I totally agree, we cando it too as we have a huge squad of 36odd and several could leave from there own choice.
Personally, on top of those you mention leaving, Id be looking to sell a couple of big names. We have a squad of squad players, barely a deserved starter so why not just sell those with value. Bissaka, Maguire, Fred, Rashford for example, almost any two of those brings in £50-80m.
Theres lots of quality young players at the moment and several good free transfers too, all for me better than the above players and all would be cheaper.
All this "isnt football manager" "you cant bring in 5+ players in one window" "You cant get rid of 8+ in one window".....all should be nonsense this summer. We could comfortably clear out lots of players,bring in 6/7 have a near zero net spend,squad of25 with younger hungrier and better players.
Anybody thinking a few out and 4 in solves our problems is in dreamworld, that was shown in the summer window just gone
Those two were waste of money and to think we turned down Koulibaly & Meunier for these clownsWe conceded 54 goals in 38 games in 2018/19. On the back of that season, we decided to spend a £130m on our defence and sign Maguire & Wan-Bissaka.
So far this season, we've conceded 48 goals in 33 games.