Our most important player this season: Fred?

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  1. Aug 13, 2019 at 20:12

    Ali Dia Full Member

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    I agree with this. I think he has fantastic attributes. Yes he’s been sloppy at times and I really struggle to say anything positive about his preseason but he’s a baller and I hope he can show it here this season.
  2. Aug 13, 2019 at 20:30

    John Blund Full Member

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    Fred as DM along with McTominay, then we can send Pogba further up the field. If Fred and McTom work as DMs, we can even survive a few games when Pogba gets his rest later in the season.
  3. Aug 13, 2019 at 20:42

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    Think the point of this thread has been missed slightly, think the OP is alluding to the fact that Fred in CM alongside McTominay releases Pobga to have free reign and influence the game in both the middle third and the final third without the defensive duties, which is a part of his game which is questionable.

    I am sure that Fred will not become our most important player this season, but often a players most important contribution can be the work done to compliment the more talented players in the team. While the jury is still out on Fred, would rather see him in the starting 11 than Pereira. Bar his assist, he looked out of his depth against a poor Chelsea squad, as he did for a lot of games last season too.

    I hope to be proven wrong on both players, but it just further highlights the need to strengthen our midfield.
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    Kostov Full Member

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    Christ, first Lingard and now Fred. What's next Darmian to come in and lead us to the PL title?
  5. Aug 13, 2019 at 21:49

    Lt. Deckard New Member

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    Defence and forward looks really good and promising, but i'm hoping for january transfer window to solve this midfield tragedy.
    Fred will not solve the problems in this area, no, he will aggravete them. With missplaced passes, lost tackles and so on. And he is no creative player too.
    But let us hope for a miracle. A miracle we are waiting one year for. Fred, the miracle.
  6. Aug 13, 2019 at 23:42

    Bwuk Full Member

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    Exactly.

    Fred is our 5th choice CM ffs.
  7. Aug 13, 2019 at 23:51

    mattsville Full Member

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    Clean slate for him, he has ability let's see what he can do, last season was a mess changes of managers etc, you will know if he is included if Ole believes in him.
  8. Aug 13, 2019 at 23:54

    Needham Full Member

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    I thought it was a post asking a poster called Fred who he thinks our most important player is.
  9. Aug 13, 2019 at 23:58

    ayushreddevil9 Full Member

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    I don't see it happening. He should have been a huge part of the preseason but he had personal stuff to take care of. Don't know how this pans out
  10. Aug 14, 2019 at 00:09

    SCJY New Member

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    One thing is for sure: he definitely needs to perform this season. He either contributes or he'll be gone I'm sure.

    He had a slow start under JM, then missed time when Ole took the wheel and missed pre-season again due to personal reasons. That's ridiculous and he needs to put his head down and work double-triple hard
  11. Aug 14, 2019 at 00:19

    NoPace Full Member

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    *Our most important player outside the first XI
  12. Aug 14, 2019 at 10:17

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    He's not going to be our most important player this season, but when we look at our midfield, it wouldn't be outrageous to say that he at least has a chance to make it into the team.
  13. Aug 14, 2019 at 10:27

    TRUERED89 New Member

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    He's not Smalling, Young, Jones, Rojo, Darmian, Matic is he? Someone who's been in the XI for several years underperforming. Jheez give the guy a chance!
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    shamans Hoser

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    Just want to see Scholes hit a volley.
    As usual this place interprets a bad season as a bad footballer. There is obviously a player in there. Who knows if he will come good but he definitely has a the potential
  17. Aug 14, 2019 at 13:43

    bondsname New Member

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    I actually think Fred is very important for us, against teams with less quality he can be very useful. I wouldn't trust him against the top 6 though, he has way too many mistakes in him.
  18. Aug 14, 2019 at 13:56

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    This Fred played 39 times for Brazil....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_(footballer,_born_1983)
    The point is, he's not proven playing in a top league.

    EDIT: To be clear, I'd like him to do well, and get excited when I see him do little things that are good. But he then does something really damaging, or ridiculous.
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  19. Aug 16, 2019 at 13:19

    rotherham_red Full Member

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    I was banned at the time this was posted so couldn't quote, but this absolutely what I was getting at.

    I'm just surprised the majority in this thread didn't even bother to read beyond the thread title...
  20. Aug 16, 2019 at 16:24

    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    Watching the debate today and they put up a set of stats which was just a direct comparison between Pogba vs Chelsea last year and Pogba vs Chelsea this year and from a deeper role his stats were miles better than when he was played further forward. Hate comparing just 1 game against another as it probably doesn’t show a true reflection of what’s happening in the team generally.

    Anyway the general consensus was that Pogba deep can get on the ball and influence play as where in when he played further forward we struggled to get the ball to him in positions he can do his damage. From deeper he can see the play developing and join in.

    I like Fred and think his energy, pressing and ability to move the ball could be a massive attribute if he just snaps out of his lapses of concentration. Maybe he can get the ball to Pogba in advanced positions but I’m starting to think Pogba might actually be better coming from deep and then that throws up massive questions if McT and Fred are good enough to hold a more defensive role.
  21. Aug 16, 2019 at 19:26

    The Brown Bull Full Member

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    I would say it’s Harry Maguire.If he proves a success in our team and has the impact that OGS clearly thinks he can have he will turn out to be our most important player.