Our POTY 2019/20

United's POTY this season?


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One of Martial, Rashford and Bruno. Any one of these 3 players would be a worthy winner.
 

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Top 3 should be Rashford, Martial and Bruno. I take Bruno out because, even when he was so important and by far the best player since his arrival, it feels wrong to give it to him since he played less than half games.

Out of Rashford and Martial, both were key players in different periods. Martial was excellent in the final part of the season and we wouldnt have finished third without him playing to that super level, while Rashford while was not at good in the final part was key in a medium part of the season.

My vote goes to Rashford, since he was the only light when the team was falling to pieces, Pogba and Martial were injured and he was carrying the attack almost by himself having to play with Lingard, Pereira and all those nothing players around him.
 

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Poll added... Would be interesting to see people's choices considering we have multiple players who would be worthy of the award atm.

Tbf, the season is not over and it could easily happen that a player who excels in Europa League or leads us to trophy gets it in the end.
 

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Went with Rashford because of his performances over the whole season. Bruno has been our best player this season but 14 apps is a bit too few for me to give him the POTY. Martial with a real shout after the restart just behind them.
 

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I disagree with the notion that Bruno shouldn't win because he 's only played half a season(actually a little less). He saved our season. He's lifted the whole team in Cantona-esque fashion and looks like our best signing in a very long time.

His stats are also better than his competitors(Rashford and Martial). He has a better goal/assist ratio and I believe he has more MOTM awards as well. 10 goals and 8 assists in 20 appearances + a ton of key passes is pretty great.
 

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I’m surprised by how many people are saying Rashford :confused: August - January yes I can understand, but after his injury post lockdown he has been abysmal. Tiredness and match sharpness has had an impact no doubt. If Rashford is in contention, you would have to say Bruno is too.

Over a whole season, the most consistent for me has been Martial, AWB and Maguire.
 

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It has to be either Martial or Rashford.

I think Martial deserves it on the basis of the most improved player but I think Rashford takes it due to being slightly more consistent over the season, but that isn't even Martial's fault in that he had an injury that kept him out for 2 months from Oct & Nov pretty much.
 

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I’m surprised by how many people are saying Rashford :confused: August - January yes I can understand, but after his injury post lockdown he has been abysmal. Tiredness and match sharpness has had an impact no doubt. If Rashford is in contention, you would have to say Bruno is too.

Over a whole season, the most consistent for me has been Martial, AWB and Maguire.
Abysmal is very strong, he hasn't been that bad.

Lacking a bit of match fitness and sharpness as you say but after a pretty bad back injury, were lucky he managed to finis the season!

Still he provided us with 3 goals and 3 assists post lock down and more than done his part over that period.
 

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Abysmal is very strong, he hasn't been that bad.

Lacking a bit of match fitness and sharpness as you say but after a pretty bad back injury, were lucky he managed to finis the season!

Still he provided us with 3 goals and 3 assists post lock down and more than done his part over that period.
Agreed.

He was literally carrying us for a while when we had no Martial, Bruno, Pogba. And contributed well when we had those. Imo in term of progress as a footballer Martial has improved the most as our new #9 and has been excellent for us. However POTY is contribution base and had Martial was not out for two months my vote would probably go for him. Bruno's contribution is absolutely immense but he played only half a season.

So, Rashford imo.
 

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In what has been the strangest season ever it has to be an unusual choice. He played less than half the games but he’s become our talisman. I don’t think we’d have made top 4 without him. I’m not even totally sure Ole would still be in a job. He’s been great for the mental health of united fans all over the world. :lol:

Bruno!!!

Overall It’ll be Martial in first or second who’s thrived off Bruno’s creativity and was putting in the work all through the season. His best season for us.

Big shout out for Fred our most improved player but his season totally tailed off into nothing since the restart. I hope we still have a role for him but needs to be playing regularly or moved on by the looks of things.

Rashford hasn’t been at it at all since he came back. Hopefully he starts next season better than he finished this one. His early season form was good. Wide playmaker? Not really for me. He should get back to what makes him dangerous and effective.
 

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Think I'd give it to Bruno. Without his signing, we'd probably have finished 8th or something.
 

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Bruno, Martial or Maguire for me. Would like to see Martial win it, but I think Bruno's impact was so immense that he should really take it.
 

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For me it's between Bruno, Rashy and Martial.

I think I'd have to give it to Bruno I think while its nice to see more people actually contributing this year, he is the differential between CL and no CL, I'd like to see where we would be had we got him in September, I'm not talking title but I think we would be closer to City

Martial's overall work rate and team contribution has greatly improved and Rashy we excellent just before lockdown.

If one of the above single handedly carries us to winning the Europa I'd consider changing my vote

I hope the club do a special award to recognise Rashy for his charitable work as well.

Young player would be Greenwood, he's also made a huge difference in our run in and at times, eg the West Ham game bailed us out of a tight hole, securing us valuable points in the process.

Wonder who will win the players one- Rashy or Bruno would be my guess
 

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Very tough call, but had to choose Fernandes because there's no way we'd have finished 3rd without him.

Very notable mentions for Greewood and Williams too who've done far more than I'd expect for such young players thrown in at the deep end.
 

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Don’t even think there’s any room for debate here.

Martial hands down. This season was literally his last chance and the man did not choke at all. In fact he grabbed this opportunity to make #9 his own with both hands. Locked it down. Period.

Edit: I see him being in contention again next season now that Bruno’s playing right behind him.
 

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Very hard to pick 1 player this season,a lot of the lads have improved a lot over these last 12 months.Greenwood and Fernandez have been terrific in the 2nd half of the season,but they obviously didn’t contribute in the first so it wouldn’t be fair to give it to either of them.AWB has been terrific,but I don’t really want a RB as my POTY!!

It obviously boils down to choosing between Rashford and Martial.Both have performed well and it looks like they are both on the verge of becoming consistent performers in the PL.Rashford was the standout player until January,but Martials been terrific since then.I will probably go for Martial,simply because of the way in which he has grown into the number 9 role.His link up play,his ability to play with his back facing the goal,his work ethic have all improved tangibly overall these last 12 months...My POTY is Martial...
 

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Alot of posters going for Rashford. He's had 3 months of great form if that this season.

Martial started off well got injured and we had that spell where we couldn't win a game without him, Rashford played up top.

Rashford got injured and we managed without him better than without Martial.

For me Martial because he was told this season, you are N0.9, the pressure is on you to score the goals.

No one expected this from Martial, as you can see pundits who do not watch United still saying we need a proper No.9.

Unless you are a United fan watching all the games, people do not appreciate what Martial does for this team in terms of his hold up play, link up play.
 

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I dont remember Martial being that good before Christmas? He has been brilliant since re start and possibly our best player, long may it continue. But pre Christmas? Maybe my memory is letting me down however pre Christmas
 

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For the sheer impact he's made I'd give it to Fernandes despite just having played half the season
 

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Has to be Rashford for me. His influence in big games kept our season alive when it looked like we could end up in the bottom half.
 

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Don’t even think there’s any room for debate here.

Martial hands down.
No room for debate?

Bruno in the PL:
Goal/assist every 81.5 minutes
MOTM in 3 out of 14 appearances

Martial in the PL:
Goal/assist every 114.8 minutes
MOTM in 4 out of 31 appearances

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I get that it's easier to have better stats when you play a shorter amount of time, but these differences are too significant. And that is despite focusing on the most important stat for Martial(goals and assists). Bruno has contributed with a whole lot more.
 

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Martial, just about. Rashford carried a struggling side for the first half of the season but I give Martial special recognition for looking so much the part as a number 9, contrary to what many United fans expected. Bruno was transformative, so I can't blame people for going for him either, but again I credit Martial for sticking at it the whole season.
 

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Martial because he's been here the full season, Bruno otherwise.
 

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No room for debate?

Bruno in the PL:
Goal/assist every 81.5 minutes
MOTM in 3 out of 14 appearances

Martial in the PL:
Goal/assist every 114.8 minutes
MOTM in 4 out of 31 appearances

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I get that it's easier to have better stats when you play a shorter amount of time, but these differences are too significant. And that is despite focusing on the most important stat for Martial(goals and assists). Bruno has contributed with a whole lot more.
Yes but it would be unfair to give the award to a player who joined us in the second half. Don’t get me wrong, I know Bruno has been the best since he arrived but he will deservedly be in contention next season. For now, we need to reward someone whose shown the best change as compared to last season.

Martials’ journey throughout the season showed tremendous grit knowing he had to prove a point this season. His overall game has improved miles. Specially his positional play and overall work ethic.
 

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That Aaron Wan-Bissaka only gets 5 votes is criminal. Everyone forgetting just how fun it was when Ashley Young held down the fort on the right back.
 

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Yes but it would be unfair to give the award to a player who joined us in the second half.
Why? If you join a work project that's halfway done and completely change everything for the better and outshine everyone while doing so, is it unfair to consider you the "hero" of the project when it's finished? Even if the project in all likelihood would have been a failure without you?

we need to reward someone whose shown the best change as compared to last season.
By that logic a player most people wouldn't even consider top 5 could win POTY. All you need to do is go from 'shit' to 'decent'(not saying that this is the case with Martial)

Martials’ journey throughout the season showed tremendous grit knowing he had to prove a point this season. His overall game has improved miles. Specially his positional play and overall work ethic.
I agree.
 

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My POTY goes to:
1. Maguire for his leadership and looks natural in his role - not the best defender but gives us balance and we have a good defensive record. I don't like that he hogs the ball too much and takes unnecessary touches which slows down our play.

2. Martial - earlier in the season he was bulked up to make him a more traditional CF - playing in a body that did not suit him and making him injury prone. He has returned without the bulk and playing to his natural abilities and body frame. Looks smaller, but quicker, stronger, more energetic and more agile.

3.Rashford - his flashes of brilliance, and strong desire to succeed kept us afloat

4. Mason - Special talent, though overrated recently by the media. Bad advice from the coaches to bulk him up (usually happens with British footy coaches, they can't imagine someone as small as Iniesta or Xavi or Scholes or Messi being good) - I fear that he is going to be more inclined to use his physical attributes instead of natural attributes. Martial has gone the opposite route and has benefitted. Neymar's team was very strict to ensure that he is not bulked up to 'European standards' - this kept him very agile and quick before growing into his full-frame years later.

5. Bruno - Given us the momentum to finish 3rd.

Voted for Martial since HM got the armband already.
 

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Why? If you join a work project that's halfway done and completely change everything for the better and outshine everyone while doing so, is it unfair to consider you the "hero" of the project when it's finished? Even if the project in all likelihood would have been a failure without you?



By that logic a player most people wouldn't even consider top 5 could win POTY. All you need to do is go from 'shit' to 'decent'(not saying that this is the case with Martial)



I agree.
Well you broke my reply down specifically in parts but I think you understand, I looked at my decision from all aspects and hence came to the conclusion that Martial had the best overall turn around this year.

While I agree that Bruno was a miracle and hence best by a mile since his arrival however it would be wrong to reward him while overlooking everyone else who had to perform even while he was absent. Martial along with Rashford showed great strength to lead our team even during some of our darkest times this season.

I was looking for excuses to call out his strolling and positional unawareness which has been the case past couple seasons but Ole really got his work ethic and positional play on point this season. There was no room for slacking and Martial repaid Ole’s trust well.
 

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No room for debate?

Bruno in the PL:
Goal/assist every 81.5 minutes
MOTM in 3 out of 14 appearances

Martial in the PL:
Goal/assist every 114.8 minutes
MOTM in 4 out of 31 appearances

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I get that it's easier to have better stats when you play a shorter amount of time, but these differences are too significant. And that is despite focusing on the most important stat for Martial(goals and assists). Bruno has contributed with a whole lot more.
Bruno was MOTM against Leicester - that should be enough to tell you about STATS. We watch the games, and we see what we see - he was terrible. Give all the PKs to Rashford and he walks aways with POTY uncontested even with all his bad match-day performances.
 

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Bruno was MOTM against Leicester - that should be enough to tell you about STATS. We watch the games, and we see what we see - he was terrible. Give all the PKs to Rashford and he walks aways with POTY uncontested even with all his bad match-day performances.
It isn't the stats that awarded him MOTM though.

I really wouldn't read much into the MOTM awards at all, the stats tell a completely different story in that Bruno was extremely poor.

Meanwhile over in the Pogba thread you've him getting dogs abuse as per usual whilst folks ignore his performance data, that shows he actually played very well.
 

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AWB for me. I know it’s another defender but he was still so consistent even through the September - December relegation run.
 

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Martial gets my vote. Him and Rashford kept us afloat in the first half of the season when it was all going wrong. Out of the two I think Martial had more consistency and played much better at the end when it all finally clicked for us. Rashford was probably more important in that early half of the season, so I think he has a good shout too, but overall Martial edges it.

Beyond those two, Maguire was important for his stability, but his form wasn't always convincing. Bruno was obviously a major spark in the season and probably burned brightest, but in terms of overall contribution, wasn't here long enough to justify the award. A couple of other players had decent seasons but not enough to justify being POTY.
 

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That Aaron Wan-Bissaka only gets 5 votes is criminal. Everyone forgetting just how fun it was when Ashley Young held down the fort on the right back.
I kinda feel the same way about Maguire. He's new to the club, been made captain pretty quickly, played every single minute of every game and the defence is a lot better than it was last season - not just down to him of course but considering few people on here seem to rate Lindelöf, Shaw or De Gea then that improvement has had to come from somewhere. 54 goals conceded last season - 36 this season.

I'm not advocating that he should be the obvious choice, though he is mine, but to have less votes than Fred? Really?

We've suffered some unfortunate injuries this season and felt the impact that those injuries have created. Now imagine we'd lost Maguire for 10 games.
 

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No room for debate?

Bruno in the PL:
Goal/assist every 81.5 minutes
MOTM in 3 out of 14 appearances

Martial in the PL:
Goal/assist every 114.8 minutes
MOTM in 4 out of 31 appearances

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I get that it's easier to have better stats when you play a shorter amount of time, but these differences are too significant. And that is despite focusing on the most important stat for Martial(goals and assists). Bruno has contributed with a whole lot more.
Bruno takes penalties most of which have been won by Martial. Going by pure stats will only favor the player on all set pieces who happens to be Bruno.

Martial has been the clutchest player especially in our last 4-5 games where the team as a whole was tired, Bruno was poor(and still racked up goals and assists in part thanks to penalties won as as well as Martial converting simple passes from Bruno into assists).

Martial has literally contributed or had a hand in every one of our most important last 5-6 games.

The fact that Martial managed to consistently show up in our knackered state in these last games while the team has failed to perform to standard gives him the edge to me.

Southampton, Palace where arguably our most important games given how our team was exhausted and Martial(and Rashford)managed to win us important points.
 

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Its more a question of how much you need to play to be included - if Bruno has played enough, he will win it.

If not - it should be between AWB, Martial and Rashford