Kraftwerker
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After all this discussion of penalty takers you know we're going to get a nailed on penalty against Chelsea waved away...
Was his confidence not fragile enough before that anyway? If anything, he has improved since the Leeds match.In a way, I'd like Berbatov to take a really important penalty, so he can exorcise those FA Cup demons. I can't help thinking that missed penalty is haunting him still, which is why his confidence has been so surprisingly fragile.
Well it wasnt "nailed on" but i thought it should have been a pen. Park just didnt make his fall look convincing enough.After all this discussion of penalty takers you know we're going to get a nailed on penalty against Chelsea waved away...
After the money we've spent on him, surely it's better to retain his services on a pay as you play basis.We should all just resign ourself to the possibility that he's not going to feature at any point this season. To be honest, I'd rather see Gibson start games and get his 90 minutes rather then a man who's been out 18 months and isn't mentally ready for the battle (and that's what every game till end of the season will be).
I hope Hargo can come back next year as a right back, play out his contract and leave in 2011 on the free. It's a shame, but I don't believe we can afford to take any more chances on his fitness in the long term. We will end up getting repeatedly fecked. (already have Rio, Brown, Fabio, Rafael, Owen who are all very injury prone)
He has played right back before and done ok in that position. It's got less pressure then middle of the park where his mentality will be put to the test. If reports are to be believes he's already had some doubts so i'm not sure we can afford to give him a run in the middle of the park where he's expected to put in crunching tackles. At right back at least you have cover and with Valencia or Nani in front of you can go forward and cross and have some attacking options.Why right back? that's just odd!
Perhaps. I just wonder how willing Fergie will be to take another punt if he doesn't play a significant part in the team next year. All the talent in the world means feck all if your body won't allow you to put it to use.After the money we've spent on him, surely it's better to retain his services on a pay as you play basis.
Raped Barca with him at RB and Park in front of him. Haven't seen such an efficient partnering down a flank. The best? No. But the most efficient work rate and usage of the ball.Why right back? that's just odd!
i wouldnt say that.Raped Barca with him at RB and Park in front of him. Haven't seen such an efficient partnering down a flank. The best? No. But the most efficient work rate and usage of the ball.
When was that again?Raped Barca with him at RB and Park in front of him. Haven't seen such an efficient partnering down a flank. The best? No. But the most efficient work rate and usage of the ball.
They clearly didn't plan it or they would have sold him at first request instead of waiting a year when we could have found out more about his knees.Selling Hargreaves to us was Bayern's biggest victory over us.
Was that not just the squad listed that was training and part of the CL squad?Hargreaves not in training today. Bit worrying. O'Shea is, though.
At Bayern he was already an injury prone player. At least that's what a Bayern fan mate of mine once told me. Maybe they bluffed us to pay more for him.They clearly didn't plan it or they would have sold him at first request instead of waiting a year when we could have found out more about his knees.
Well that lad you are talking about scored a marvellous free kick against Arsenal that got a huge win by that time and we went onto win the league that season, also that lad played two tough games against Barca at RB when we didnt concede and we went onto win the CL.Selling Hargreaves to us was Bayern's biggest victory over us.
Didn't we end up paying less than original though? I thought we offered 20m in 2006 but they said no for a year, then we got for 17m ish in 2007. If they knew he was a crock then surely they would have snapped our hand off and taken the 20m, just like Roma, not force us to wait a year and sell for less or not at all.At Bayern he was already an injury prone player. At least that's what a Bayern fan mate of mine once told me. Maybe they bluffed us to pay more for him.
Maybe, but I prefer our biggest victory over them, to be fair. That was miles better.Selling Hargreaves to us was Bayern's biggest victory over us.
No we didn't offer that much in 2006, before the world cup we were linked with a £5 mill move for him, after that world cup, his value sky rocketed. Bayern were holding out for big money but United (rightfully) weren't prepared to pay it. I think, we thought, they'd give in and sell him by the end of the summer but they didn't, so eventually we stumped up the cash and got him.Didn't we end up paying less than original though? I thought we offered 20m in 2006 but they said no for a year, then we got for 17m ish in 2007. If they knew he was a crock then surely they would have snapped our hand off and taken the 20m, just like Roma, not force us to wait a year and sell for less or not at all.
The best penalty in the shoot-out, for me.No we didn't offer that much in 2006, before the world cup we were linked with a £5 mill move for him, after that world cup, his value sky rocketed. Bayern were holding out for big money but United (rightfully) weren't prepared to pay it. I think, we thought, they'd give in and sell him by the end of the summer but they didn't, so eventually we stumped up the cash and got him.
I used to get quite annoyed by the fact that we bought a crock but mistakes happen in the transfer market and hopefully we'll learn from it. What softens the blow is his penalty in the champions league final for me.
I'd say it's one of the best I've ever seen, if not the best (it's not that controversial a statement because of my age), because if I recall, it was after Ronaldo's miss and Hargreaves had to score. Not a single keeper would have saved it, even knowing where he would place it in advance wouldn't have helped them. It had power, pace and placement. Even if he never plays another match for us again, I'll always remember him fondly for that moment and the free kick against Arsenal.The best penalty in the shoot-out, for me.
That's how I remember it. If I remember well they used the Hargreaves money to buy Ribery.No we didn't offer that much in 2006, before the world cup we were linked with a £5 mill move for him, after that world cup, his value sky rocketed. Bayern were holding out for big money but United (rightfully) weren't prepared to pay it. I think, we thought, they'd give in and sell him by the end of the summer but they didn't, so eventually we stumped up the cash and got him.
0-0, 90 minutes played. United gets a free kick from 20 yards. Hargreaves who has been on the pitch for fifteen minutes steps up to the plate. He hits the ball with a nice bend over the wall and towards the top corner. The ball hits the bar, and goes out for a goal kick. Meanwhile, Hargreaves is lying on the ground, screaming in agony after twisting his knee whilst striking the ball.SSN think he may be on the bench today.
Penis rising to attention...SSN think he may be on the bench today.
...0-0, 90 minutes played. United gets a free kick from 20 yards. Hargreaves who has been on the pitch for fifteen minutes steps up to the plate. He hits the ball with a nice bend over the wall and towards the top corner. The ball hits the bar, and goes out for a goal kick. Meanwhile, Hargreaves is lying on the ground, screaming in agony after twisting his knee whilst striking the ball.
His names not Ronaldo, Rooney, Messi or Kaka.Penis rising to attention...
0-0, 90 minutes played. United gets a free kick from 20 yards. Hargreaves who has been on the pitch for fifteen minutes steps up to the plate. He hits the ball with a nice bend over the wall and towards the top corner. The ball hits the bar, and goes out for a goal kick. Meanwhile, Hargreaves is lying on the ground, screaming in agony after twisting his knee whilst striking the ball.
And as he's flexing his right leg to strike the ball both of his knees combust and a shard of bone pokes Rooney in the eye.
But...but...but...the hair!His names not Ronaldo, Rooney, Messi or Kaka.
Zip it
Don't forget he was arguably our best player on the pitch during the final. I still have hope for Hargreaves.I'd say it's one of the best I've ever seen, if not the best (it's not that controversial a statement because of my age), because if I recall, it was after Ronaldo's miss and Hargreaves had to score. Not a single keeper would have saved it, even knowing where he would place it in advance wouldn't have helped them. It had power, pace and placement. Even if he never plays another match for us again, I'll always remember him fondly for that moment and the free kick against Arsenal.
Exactly what I was thinking.His injury is all Berba's fault. If Berba had had the faith of SAF to play in CM/DM/RB role, which you'd expect from a 30 million pound signing, then he wouldn't have had to have overused Hargreaves by playing him in three games last season.
fecking Berbatov.