evra
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Have you got some insider info?Off we go.
Have you got some insider info?Off we go.
About what?Have you got some insider info?
Hargreaves starting, I immediately thought that he was in the starting line up when you posted "here we go" but clearly he's not so never mind.About what?
His injury is all Berba's fault. If Berba had had the faith of SAF to play in CM/DM/RB role, which you'd expect from a 30 million pound signing, then he wouldn't have had to have overused Hargreaves by playing him in three games last season.
fecking Berbatov.
Can't he just tell us the truth?SAF says a lot of things.
Exactly, I knew as soon as they said he was pulled out to train with the first team it was bull shit.I have had doubts about Hargo. Beginning to think that instead of pulling him out of the reserves to train with the Ist team, SAF has realised that he aint coming back anytime soon if at all, he would have benefited from the reserve match tonight if he was fit
Sir Alex Ferguson has played down suggestions that Own Hargreaves will play for Manchester United again this season.
The England international hasn't featured for United since September 2008 after having operations on both his knees in a bid to cure a long-standing problem.
Hargreaves was on the bench for the recent 2-1 defeat to Chelsea and was expected to feature for the club before the end of the season.
However, Ferguson has now played down that possibility, claiming that there is plenty of competition for places in United's midfield and that Hargreaves isn't guaranteed a spot.
"It is difficult to say when Owen will be back; he is training well and I had him in the squad for the Chelsea game," stated Ferguson.
"His training performances have been fine but I think at the moment midfield is not an issue for us because we have plenty of alternatives."
Manchester United: Ferguson cool on Hargreaves return - ClubCall.com
Wasn't on the bench unfortunately, just counted in the squad for the match.I never realised in all the excitement of the day that he was on the bench for the chavs
It's always tough at this point of the season, trying to get a player who's been out for that long back into the team. As long as we're fighting for the title still, assuming there isn't a crisis in a position Hargreaves can play, I think it very unlikely he'll featurehmmmm
Agreed.It's always tough at this point of the season, trying to get a player who's been out for that long back into the team. As long as we're fighting for the title still, assuming there isn't a crisis in a position Hargreaves can play, I think it very unlikely he'll feature
Yep. No need to risk anything this late in the year, especially as Gibson is a viable option.Agreed.
The last thing we want to do his aggravate his injury before the summer. With a long summer to rest and a full pre season hopefully he can come into next season on a level par with everyone else fitness wise.
That is what people said at the end of last season. Since then his introduction date has been postponed from September to August next season now.Agreed.
The last thing we want to do his aggravate his injury before the summer. With a long summer to rest and a full pre season hopefully he can come into next season on a level par with everyone else fitness wise.
The difference is that he is now in the matchday squads. He is, technically, uninjured. He just isn't match fit.That is what people said at the end of last season. Since then his introduction date has been postponed from September to August next season now.
Isn't that pretty much what he has just said? I certainly took it as being implied.But it pisses me off that SAF lies about it constantly, wouldn't it just be better to say "we think it's better if Owen has a full pre-season with us and comes back as strong as possible for next season" ?
Why the hell SAF lead people into believing that he'd be on the bench for Chelsea is a mystery to me. After not appearing on the bench for another 2 weeks and not appearing in another reserve game, people start making their own conclusions, usually negative ones with regards to his injury situation.
The most concerning thing in that piece is that Fergie says the midfield isnt a concern!hmmmm
Exactly. And it was ony a token jesture i bet.Wasn't on the bench unfortunately, just counted in the squad for the match.
Well no not exactly, he said "it's difficult to say when he will be back".Isn't that pretty much what he has just said? I certainly took it as being implied.
There's no need for Hargreaves to play in reserve games other than to build up match fitness. With 4 games left in the season and a whole host of midfielders available there isn't much point trying to get him match fit. It's not as if we want him going to the World Cup, is it?
Possibly because he himself wasn't sure whether he would've used him much this year. With our league hopes dimming by the match, it looks like he's correctly decided to bring him back after a full summer of training.But it pisses me off that SAF lies about it constantly, wouldn't it just be better to say "we think it's better if Owen has a full pre-season with us and comes back as strong as possible for next season" ?
Why the hell SAF lead people into believing that he'd be on the bench for Chelsea is a mystery to me. After not appearing on the bench for another 2 weeks and not appearing in another reserve game, people start making their own conclusions, usually negative ones with regards to his injury situation.
He is poised to return in September/December/March/April in the year 2009/2010/2011
take your pick.
No reason that can't be accomplished in the reserve matches. The movements during match play are identical.Confidence. If he can come off 2 games unscathed at the tail end of this season then that puts them out of the way next season.
I've no doubt that will be the press release pretty much word for word. Reality, though, is that next season will be the same as this season for him. If he's still here.What would be the point of him playing this season at this stage?
Let him build up his knees in the summer and return after a good preseason, ready to go.
If that was how they felt why did they pull him out of the reserves to "train with the first team." It's not a step backwards. Honest.No reason that can't be accomplished in the reserve matches. The movements during match play are identical.
Reserve matches are not premier league matches. If they were then we'd have more outstanding youth talents making the grade at this club.No reason that can't be accomplished in the reserve matches. The movements during match play are identical.
Who knows. I get the impression Fergie has been vascillating on whether to actually bring him back for the title run in, or not. The fact that our title hopes are dimming suggests that any need for him to come back this year is all but gone.If that was how they felt why did they pull him out of the reserves to "train with the first team." It's not a step backwards. Honest.
Or now could be the perfect time to bring him back as there is less pressure on the games.Who knows. I get the impression Fergie has been vascillating on whether to actually bring him back for the title run in, or not. The fact that our title hopes are dimming suggests that any need for him to come back this year is all but gone.
Of course they're not, but the movement and competition are still there, which is what he needs. Looks like Fergie made the right call, as they're no need to risk him as an experiment. Let him come back fresh next year.Reserve matches are not premier league matches. If they were then we'd have more outstanding youth talents making the grade at this club.
Or now could be the perfect time to bring him back as there is less pressure on the games.
Either way it's all pie in the sky. He might make 1 or 2 appearances but he'll never be back to how he was.